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[CJB85]

Ivermectin is not a ‘miracle drug’ against COVID. Vaccines are.


https://www.medicalbrief.co.za/archives/ivermectin-is-not-a-miracle-drug-against-covid-vaccines-are/

I can’t believe how many people want to replace a preventative measure with something that “may be effective” in treating symptoms.
That’s like refusing to have a car with breaks, because the airbags might save you in an accident.
Full disclosure, my doctor prescribed Ivermectin tablets as part of my treatment for 5 days. I have no idea if they contributed to my evasion of severe illness, but I will for damn sure pick prevention over cure whenever the opportunity comes my way (which being only 36, will probably only be in 2028).

 

[Stranger]

@Paul33 , @MRHarris1

Very sorry for your loss. no words

 

[Stranger]

There is always an underlying monetary reason why cheaper drugs are not pushed to the fore. Ivermectin is cheap and there is a ton of evidence to suggest that it may be effective, but the clinical stuff is not forthcoming.

How much are we going to spend on prevention for COVID in the years to come when the pandemic is over. Flu and pneumococcal vaccines are already big money spinners for big pharma.

 

[Adephi]

Ivermectin is not a ‘miracle drug’ against COVID. Vaccines are.


https://www.medicalbrief.co.za/archives/ivermectin-is-not-a-miracle-drug-against-covid-vaccines-are/

I'm so over this debate.

If people want to take a drug that has been proven to cause neurological disorders (even comas), kidney damage and liver damage in cases of overdosing, they can knock themselves out

Well done, you survived Covid. Now you're a vegetable.

 

[Grand Guru]

There is always an underlying monetary reason why cheaper drugs are not pushed to the fore. Ivermectin is cheap and there is a ton of evidence to suggest that it may be effective, but the clinical stuff is not forthcoming.

How much are we going to spend on prevention for COVID in the years to come when the pandemic is over. Flu and pneumococcal vaccines are already big money spinners for big pharma.

The coronavirus vaccine will be part of the flu vaccine formula in the next 1 or 2 years and no longer a separate vaccine...

 

[Hooked]

A college student told me today that he'll be going back to college next week when classes re-open. I replied that I doubt it, with over 21,000 new cases. He replied that "people are saying" that these new cases have been caused by the vaccine.

What does one do in the face of such dangerous ignorance???

 

[Hooked]

Tokyo has barred spectators at the Olympics
https://www.businessinsider.co.za/tokyo-olympics-banning-spectators-covid-19-2021-7
8 July 2021

"The Olympics are banning spectators from the games after Tokyo declared a Covid-19 state of emergency, organisers said on Thursday...

The New York Times reports that Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga acknowledged the challenge the country faced as the more contagious Delta variant had begun to circulate. He warned about the danger of the virus spreading beyond Tokyo as people travelled home for the summer holidays..."

 

[Hooked]

South Africans can now travel to these countries in Europe – but only if they’re fully vaccinated
https://www.businessinsider.co.za/v...n-travel-to-these-countries-in-evurope-2021-7
7 July 2021

"... Data provided by Sherpa reveal that the following European countries accept fully vaccinated South African visitors:

Switzerland
Ukraine
Moldova
Romania
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Montenegro
Lithuania
Estonia
Iceland
Norway

Some of these countries may still require a negative Covid-19 test certificate, but do not require fully vaccinated travellers to quarantine..."

 

[Adephi]

A college student told me today that he'll be going back to college next week when classes re-open. I replied that I doubt it, with over 21,000 new cases. He replied that "people are saying" that these new cases have been caused by the vaccine.

What does one do in the face of such dangerous ignorance???

Art student?

 

[Grand Guru]

A college student told me today that he'll be going back to college next week when classes re-open. I replied that I doubt it, with over 21,000 new cases. He replied that "people are saying" that these new cases have been caused by the vaccine.

What does one do in the face of such dangerous ignorance???

You should’ve told him to look for another school!

 

[Hooked]

Art student?

Art without the Sm

 

[Feliks Karp]

There is always an underlying monetary reason why cheaper drugs are not pushed to the fore. Ivermectin is cheap and there is a ton of evidence to suggest that it may be effective, but the clinical stuff is not forthcoming.

How much are we going to spend on prevention for COVID in the years to come when the pandemic is over. Flu and pneumococcal vaccines are already big money spinners for big pharma.

And you think Merck doesn't coin 17 billion euros a year? "Big Pharma" makes it. Why would they not want people using it? Even if it was cheap, they could spin a massive profit off prescribing it as prophylaxis or treatment.

 

[Adephi]

And you think Merck doesn't coin 17 billion euros a year? "Big Pharma" makes it. Why would they not want people using it? Even if it was cheap, they could spin a massive profit off prescribing it as prophylaxis or treatment.

Exactly. The vaccine is a once off dose. IVM is a continuous dose that will only benefit them if people keep getting Covid. But instead they give out warnings not to use it for Covid.

 

[ARYANTO]

Just in ...21:15 [https://www.iol.co.za]

Johannesburg - Suspended MKMVA spokesperson Carl Niehaus has been issued with a R3 000 fine for breaking lockdown regulations, the SA Police Service said.
Niehaus was arrested while giving a live TV interview on Thursday outside the Estcourt Correctional Facility, where former President Jacob Zuma is serving his 15-month sentence.

 

[Grand Guru]

 

[Adephi]

Bit of a long read, but a very good explanation of herd immunity and how it works.

https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/herd-immunity-is-not-a-light-switch

 

[Silver]

Bit of a long read, but a very good explanation of herd immunity and how it works.

https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/herd-immunity-is-not-a-light-switch

Thanks @Adephi
Great article!

Here's the bottom line:

Bottom Line

There is not going to be a “herd immunity day” where life immediately goes back to normal. We need to start thinking of it as a receding tide rather than a light switch. Yes, we should celebrate vaccine progression. And yes, some are still hopeful that we will eventually reach herd immunity. But it will be slow. It will be quiet. And we will only know we reached it until it’s passed.

And the great picture from the article:

 

[Hooked]

A suggestion was made on one of my town's FB pages (this small town has 5 FB groups - politics!) that if someone has COVID, they should tie a coloured ribbon to their gate, to warn other people. Strange ... but true!

 

[Grand Guru]

From the acting health minister briefing: Big news so far: Registration for 35-49 years old will begin as of 15 July. The goal is to start vaccinating this cohort by 1 August.

 

[DavyH]

A suggestion was made on one of my town's FB pages (this small town has 5 FB groups - politics!) that if someone has COVID, they should tie a coloured ribbon to their gate, to warn other people. Strange ... but true!

How many people of 'a certain age' automatically went to a song by Tony Orlando and Dawn on reading this?

Damn, @Hooked, now I've got an earworm!

 

[Silver]

From the acting health minister briefing: Big news so far: Registration for 35-49 years old will begin as of 15 July. The goal is to start vaccinating this cohort by 1 August.

This is great, thank you for relaying the news @Grand Guru !

 

[ARYANTO]

From the acting health minister briefing: Big news so far: Registration for 35-49 years old will begin as of 15 July. The goal is to start vaccinating this cohort by 1 August.

We [54 and 57 ] ''REGISTERED'' last week on our phones but haven't got anything back , so do I pop in at Dischem or Clicks and just get a shot or what ?

 

[Adephi]

We [54 and 57 ] ''REGISTERED'' last week on our phones but haven't got anything back , so do I pop in at Dischem or Clicks and just get a shot or what ?

If you got med aid you can go to the private facilities. Otherwise public. That's how I understand it.

Here's an updated list of sites.

https://sacoronavirus.co.za/active-vaccination-sites/

 

[Stranger]

When you say registered, with EVDS
https://vaccine.enroll.health.gov.za/#/

or with your med aid app ?

 

[Feliks Karp]

We [54 and 57 ] ''REGISTERED'' last week on our phones but haven't got anything back , so do I pop in at Dischem or Clicks and just get a shot or what ?

I know two people who got their shots at the dischem warehouse without medical aid, and one person who got sent away from a dischem. As long as you have your number you can take a chance. From what I've read some sites occasionally don't get vaccine, and some sites don't get enough people showing up so they happily give out if you have a number, because they need 5 people per vial to show up.