Lockdown diaries - COVID-19 matters!

What are you going to be doing during the lockdown?

  • At home. I’m non essential

    Votes: 70 41.2%

  • Working. The virus doesn’t scare me

    Votes: 41 24.1%

  • On standby

    Votes: 10 5.9%

  • Working from home. Too essential to take any risk!

    Votes: 66 38.8%
  • Total voters
    170
  • Poll closed .
Please pay attention to the paragraph in bold.

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CBD

CBD discussions are allowed but Dry Herb and THC are not.

source: https://www.ecigssa.co.za/ecigssa-forum-posting-rules.t5319/
 
It was moved to the correct Forum.
 
So after a year and a half of this thread providing valuable information and a platform where constructive conversations was held. Where it was easy accessible in the front of the forum, you now decide it needs to grouped with the jokes thread?
 
Adephi said:
So after a year and a half of this thread providing valuable information and a platform where constructive conversations was held. Where it was easy accessible in the front of the forum, you now decide it needs to grouped with the jokes thread?
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It's in the OFF TOPIC forum. the place where anything not related to vaping is supposed to be. End of discussion.
 
I’m opening this thread dedicated to COVID-19 issues: stats, pertinent health matters around the pandemic and to keep fellow forumites well informed.
 
https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/long-covid-among-breakthrough-cases

Long COVID among breakthrough cases?


Need another reason to mask up? People may get long COVID19 after a breakthrough infection.

While vaccines protect from severe disease, we know the vaccinated can still carry the virus (to some extent, we don’t know this number with Delta) and can, but rarely, display symptoms (i.e. breakthrough cases). The vaccine doesn’t seem to provide 100% “sterilizing immunity”. And this is normal. Many of our vaccines don’t provide this level of protection. For example, our measles vaccine protects us from disease, but we can still carry it if we come in contact with it. This is why a measles outbreak, like at Disneyland, can be very dangerous.

One of the pandemic mysteries is whether the vaccinated (and particularly breakthrough cases) can get long COVID19? Yesterday we got our first look.

The New England Journal of Medicine published a study of breakthrough cases among healthcare workers in Israel. Scientists tested 1,497 healthcare workers from December 19, 2020 to April 28, 2021 at the largest medical center in Israel. (Note this is before Delta).

Of the tested workers, 39 breakthrough cases were detected. All were traced back to unvaccinated index cases (either household members or patients). Among the breakthrough cases…

  • Average age was 42 years

  • The average time from the second vaccine dose to breakthrough case was 39 days (range: 11-102)

  • 1 person was immunocompromised
What did the breakthrough infections look like?

  • 67% were mild or asymptomatic. No breakthrough cases were hospitalized

  • The most common symptom was coughing (36%), followed by muscle pain (28%), loss of smell or taste (28%), and fever (21%)

  • 31% had symptoms lasting more than 14 days

  • 19% had symptoms lasting more than 6 weeks (i.e. long COVID). This included loss of smell, cough, fatigue, weakness, difficulty breathing, and/or muscle pain
    • Nine workers (23%) took more than 10 days off from work. One worker had not yet returned after 6 weeks.
Bottom line:

Breakthrough infections with Alpha were rare. However, 1 in 5 breakthrough cases reported long COVID19, regardless of severity of disease. We need a whole lot more data, but this is a really important first look in understanding the burden of breakthroughs.

We know that Delta is less forgiving than Alpha. If you’re not convinced already, it’s time to mask up.
 
Alex said:
Please pay attention to the paragraph in bold.

ECIGSSA Forum Posting Rules

Ours and your Home

We consider this forum to be part of our home and we like to think we are all part of one big family. We may not always agree with each other but the benefits and fun far outweigh the odd rumble in the jungle which is bound to happen from time to time. Please just remember that the Admin & Mod Team give of their time and efforts freely and their sole aim is to keep the forums a place we all want to be and to promote Vaping!

Posting Rules

Attempt to keep posts instructive, the more data you give, the better members can offer assistance. An educational post will also help other individuals searching for comparable data. Try to give as much detail as you can. While we aren't excessively troubled with answers to posts, make an effort not to simply post one word responses to boost your post number. It's annoying to other forum members and a waste of your own time!!

Try to keep on topic. If you find that something sparks your memory on a different subject and you need to get it out, post a new topic so that conversation can flow freely on the original topic. Avoid hi-jacking a thread.

Personal insults, personal atacks, any methods of bullying and hate speech are not allowed and will have serious consequences. Do not use ECIGSSA to air personal grievances. Deal with those off the forum.

We are an open community and everybody is welcome here. You will be cautioned through either a PM (private message) or a Warning notice. This is totally up to the Mod or Admin that finds you being underhanded. An infraction could restrict your capacity to make new posts. An excess of infractions and you might be banned for some days or forever.

The ECIGSSA Forum will not permit discrimination on the foundation of race, colour, nationality, age, conjugal status, sex, sexual preference, gender, gender expression, inability/disability, religion, tallness, weight, veteran status or status of employment/unemployment. Objections may be reported directly by utilising the report function on posts or via a direct PM to one of the members of the Admin & Mod Team.

Keep it clean. Swearing and vulgar language is not welcome here.

ECIGSSA will not allow discussions on this forum of any kind of drugs or illicit substances. This includes weed, marijuana and similar substances or additives - as well as related vaping devices.

Don't post personal information. For example, full names, addresses, telephone numbers, private messages or emails. This is a normal practice for public forums and is for your own safety.

Don't Spam

I think we all know what is considered Spam. But here are a few examples:
  • posting the same post subject more than once on the forum
  • posting product promotion (punting) by vendors or retailers in any forum other than their own
  • an excessive number of member tags in a single post
  • advertising for non-vape related items/business and general nonsensical posts on obscure topics
Spam is not allowed anywhere on the forum. This includes normal posts, your profile, status updates and the shoutbox. Please obtain prior permission from the Admin & Mod team before linking to your non vape related business in your profile.

Don't Use the PM System to gather deals or publicise bargains whether you are a Vendor or Regular Member. You may not utilise the PM framework to stigmatise, criticise, or defame this site or any others. Any member of ECIGSSA discovered to do this will be banned instantly.

We cherish banters! Banter about consciously. Don't egg things on to get a response. If somebody is clearly not taking the snare, quieten down and proceed onward. Nobody needs to get into battles and they profit nobody.

Trolls will not be tolerated very long.

The ECIGSSA Admin & Mod Team won't get involved in debates between merchants for instances that did not happen on this forum. The Admin & Mod team is also not obliged to aid members in private sales/swaps. ECIGSSA is not obligated for any agreement you enter into with any party or seller on this site.

In the event that you are getting data from any source discovered on the web that is not your imaginative substance, you should give credit where it is expected and a connection back if conceivable to the source of data.

Please stick to one account. Assuming that you are locked out of your old account and need to sign up with another account, inform an administrator so they can combine your two accounts. Individuals with more than one account per IP may be liable to a ban. This is waived in occurrences where there is more than one individual from a solitary family unit utilising our forum. For example, a spouse, next of kin, flat mates, and so forth...

Profiles & Signatures

Please keep it clean. Don't promote a vaping/non-vaping business or URL unless you have the permission from the Admin & Mod Team to do so. This applies to your profile info, avatar image and your posts on the forum. It would be ideal if you keep your signatures basic. Connections to vaping or non-vaping sites may be removed without explanation. Members may not connect to a seller’s site in their signature.

Other than the number of days stinky clean banners etc no graphics are allowed in signatures.

Please note that smoking counter banners cannot have any branding of or reference to any company on them. Only vanilla smoking counter banners are allowed.

Respect the Administrators and Moderators

They are here to keep the forum running smoothly. At times, they can be inundated with a considerable amount of private messages and issues that need to be moderated. Every member of the Admin & Mod Team will try their hardest to get to you, please try to remain patient.

Don't irritate or purposefully pester the members of the Admin & Mod team.

If you do not agree with a decision an Admin or Mod Member has made, it must be discussed privately. Argumentative posts about an Admin or Mods decision based on the ToS of this website will be deleted without notice.

Don't be a backseat modder. We have more than enough people in charge here. Please do not act like an armchair admin. If you see something you feel is against the rules, report the post/thread and let us handle it. Gentle reminders of the rules are fine, but don't be confrontational.

ECIGSSA reserves the right to edit, modify, or remove any threads/posts hosted on the ECIGSSA Servers.

PM's (Private Messages)

It is not allowed to disclose the contents of or the participants to a PM at all, it is regarded as confidential between the participants. Unless of course the PM itself is against the rules (like punting) or one has permission from all participants to disclose. The Private Message is just that... Private between the participants.

CBD

CBD discussions are allowed but Dry Herb and THC are not.

source: https://www.ecigssa.co.za/ecigssa-forum-posting-rules.t5319/
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@Alex I'm a bit confused and wondering why you've posted this in Lockdown Diaries?
 
From today, refusing a vaccine will be treated similar to smoking, says Discovery Life
https://www.businessinsider.co.za/d...charges-those-who-refuse-vaccines-more-2021-7
29 July 2021
  • From 29 July, Discovery Life is treating refusal to be vaccinated similarly to smoking: as an extra risk factor for early death.
  • New customers who have been vaccinated will receive extra payback benefits for a year.
  • People who want life insurance but refuse to get the Covid-19 vaccine will be charged more.
[@Grand Guru, I'm not sure now whether to post this here or in your new Covid thread?]
 
Hooked said:
@Alex I'm a bit confused and wondering why you've posted this in Lockdown Diaries?
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It may have been to ward off reaction to my posting an article.

I think it should go without saying that I did not do so in order to stir the pot. I have more than enough issues to deal with in daily life.

If I crossed a line, I apologise.
 
Hooked said:
@Alex I'm a bit confused and wondering why you've posted this in Lockdown Diaries?
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Some people are sensitive readers and doesn't like the fact that we don't fall in line with their conspiracy theories. So in stead of dealing with individuals they use their admin powers to punish the whole forum by moving this thread to the back.

A lot of us have shared countless amount of valuable information regarding the pandemic in a thread that was easily accessible in the front of the forum. And we feel very strongly that we need to continue to do so.

So yes, we just moved to a new post.
 
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