Lockdown diaries - COVID-19 matters!
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My business trip for next week up to GP and LP have been cancelled due to the rising numbers... mixed feelings, but for the better! Now I can book my vaccination and get this sh!t done and dusted! No more putting it off for the anti-vaxers in close proximity...
The data from the Israelis says the R is more or less 6.5 if that's true the next few weeks are going to be interesting.
Yes not disagreeing with this at all, but IMO putting travel bans in place will cause chaos. It will distill social unrest. The fact is, if people were doing what they were supposed to be doing, omicron wouldn't exist or be a thing. The focus needs to be on vaccine mandates and much stronger, tighter every day processes. We will be getting lock-down levels no doubt, but if countries couldn't control Delta with travel restrictions, I don't see how this will be any different. Unfortunately this is not just a fight with a virus, it's a fight with the human psyche and societal constructs.
*remember a lot of people see this as Vallies going to party country wide. But there are a lot of people who go home for the festive season, it's there one or two chance of doing that a year, take that a way, and you will have a lot of angry people spreading this thing regardless and filling up the hospitals in other ways.
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The data seems to suggest that Omicron may be more transmissible but less deadly than the original Delta variant. If this is the case then we may not see larger hospital admissions. At the same time if lot's of people get Omicron and it promotes an immune response, will this not contribute to the herd immunity ?
I am pro vaccinate but there is a lot of resistance out there, much of which I can't fathom
The data seems to suggest that Omicron may be more transmissible but less deadly than the original Delta variant. If this is the case then we may not see larger hospital admissions. At the same time if lot's of people get Omicron and it promotes an immune response, will this not contribute to the herd immunity ?
I am pro vaccinate but there is a lot of resistance out there, much of which I can't fathom
No, "natural" herd immunity doesn't exist with this virus, it constantly defeats neutralizing antibodies, it's why we see vaccinated people still catching it, but not becoming seriously ill, their big boy immune cells come to the party after the infection starts. They have even adjusted the percentage of vaccination needed for a "fire break" to be in the region of 95%.
The current data suggests you have twice as much chance of catching this strain if you have antibodies from a previous infection without vaccination.
The current data says that it is twice as likely to cause you to get seriously ill if you are not vaccinated.
The quote about "mild" cases has been misquoted and the professional involved has even said so, we do not know for certain yet, we have to wait out the next two weeks.
It would be great if this is closer to attenuation, but we do not know yet.
go get your jab dammit!!!!!
Germany is imposing a Covid-19 lockdown for unvaccinated people only
https://www.businessinsider.co.za/germany-announces-lockdown-unvaccinated-covid-19-2021-12
2 Dec. 2021
https://www.businessinsider.co.za/germany-announces-lockdown-unvaccinated-covid-19-2021-12
2 Dec. 2021
- Germany announced a lockdown for people not vaccinated against Covid-19 on Thursday.
- Unvaccinated people will be banned from restaurants and bars, movie theaters, gyms, non-essential shops, and Christmas markets.
- Outgoing Chancellor Angela Merkel made the announcement alongside her successor, Olaf Scholz.
we passed the 10k mark
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Holy cr@p!
Positivity rate is almost what it was at the peak of the 3rd wave.
This wave is going to turn into a tsunami, I’m afraid
Not the full Friday graph update yet.. but what is seen cannot be unseen... Tsunami indeed...
It’s almost vertical
The other day I heard from somebody that according to the 1965 movie Omicron, aliens from the planet Omicron will come and abduct all the vaccinated people on the 20th December.
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And why the hell would that be a bad thing?
I'm also trying to figure out why thats so bad. At least we won't have to deal with auntie-waxxers
Hawaii confirms its first case of Omicron variant in resident with no history of travel outside state
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2021/...t-holds-news-conference-discuss-covid-hawaii/
it's already everywhere with community spread. I am incredibly interested what the next couple of months will show us. Also super interested in the reverse zoonotic event vs HIV mutation factory. I am hoping someone will have an answer on that at some point.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2021/...t-holds-news-conference-discuss-covid-hawaii/
it's already everywhere with community spread. I am incredibly interested what the next couple of months will show us. Also super interested in the reverse zoonotic event vs HIV mutation factory. I am hoping someone will have an answer on that at some point.
https://greekcitytimes.com/2021/12/03/italian-used-fake-silicone-arm-while-getting-vaccinated/
Italian used fake silicone arm while getting vaccinated
Italian used fake silicone arm while getting vaccinated
Must have come from all the Saffers that swam to USA
Typical Saffers, took the long way round instead of just swimming across the Atlantic. We make our own lives difficult.
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