Lockdown diaries - COVID-19 matters!

What are you going to be doing during the lockdown?

  • At home. I’m non essential

    Votes: 70 41.2%

  • Working. The virus doesn’t scare me

    Votes: 41 24.1%

  • On standby

    Votes: 10 5.9%

  • Working from home. Too essential to take any risk!

    Votes: 66 38.8%
  • Total voters
    170
  • Poll closed .
Something is bothering me. Let's say that lockdown ends 1 May. So off we all go and everyone is shoulder to shoulder at the supermarket again or probably at the nearest pub.

But someone who contracted the virus on the 30 April could still be infectious and contagious for another 2 weeks, right? So from 30 April to 15 May we are still at risk of contracting the virus.

And what if we have contact with that person on 14 May. We are then infectious and contagious for another 2 weeks etc. etc.

So when would it be deemed relatively safe to be in close contact with other people? This time next year perhaps?
 
Hooked said:
Something is bothering me. Let's say that lockdown ends 1 May. So off we all go and everyone is shoulder to shoulder at the supermarket again or probably at the nearest pub.

But someone who contracted the virus on the 30 April could still be infectious and contagious for another 2 weeks, right? So from 30 April to 15 May we are still at risk of contracting the virus.

And what if we have contact with that person on 14 May. We are then infectious and contagious for another 2 weeks etc. etc.

So when would it be deemed relatively safe to be in close contact with other people? This time next year perhaps?
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This is just it.
The way we continue with daily life will never be the same again.
Distancing will become the norm.
The shift to online everything will be major.



People with shares in e-commerce companies will be singing all the way to the bank
 
Hooked said:
Something is bothering me. Let's say that lockdown ends 1 May. So off we all go and everyone is shoulder to shoulder at the supermarket again or probably at the nearest pub.

But someone who contracted the virus on the 30 April could still be infectious and contagious for another 2 weeks, right? So from 30 April to 15 May we are still at risk of contracting the virus.

And what if we have contact with that person on 14 May. We are then infectious and contagious for another 2 weeks etc. etc.

So when would it be deemed relatively safe to be in close contact with other people? This time next year perhaps?
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It won't be a complete end to the lockdown. They will gradually allow people to go to work and lift some restrictions. But the lockdown will be with us for some time.

They expect the peak her around sometime in September according to current models.
 
Hooked said:
Something is bothering me. Let's say that lockdown ends 1 May. So off we all go and everyone is shoulder to shoulder at the supermarket again or probably at the nearest pub.

But someone who contracted the virus on the 30 April could still be infectious and contagious for another 2 weeks, right? So from 30 April to 15 May we are still at risk of contracting the virus.

And what if we have contact with that person on 14 May. We are then infectious and contagious for another 2 weeks etc. etc.

So when would it be deemed relatively safe to be in close contact with other people? This time next year perhaps?
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@Hooked it will never be a complete lift off the lockdown just yet. Just yesterday cabinet was discussing ways on helping the economy but also if this extension will be enough to help the spread. It will be a ease into normally trading and business and a gradual ease. The lockdown on most entities could be around until after September at the earliest. We cannot go back all at once to normal living and the lift cannot come at once as it would undo all efforts in a week.
as above, social distancing, online trading/shopping, very few family visits, lack of big socials will be the norm for a very long time. All shops will and should still practice distancing and number control for months to come.
 
Adephi said:
This is very bad for SASOL.
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Why? SASOL charges the same as Shell etc all these years , so they can take the knock with the rest - they exploited us merrily together with big oil , although they're not in the natural crude oil ''business''. IMO
 
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ARYANTO said:
Why? SASOL charges the same as Shell etc all these years , so they can take the knock with the rest - they exploited us merrily together with big oil , although they're not in the natural crude OIL ''business''. IMO
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Yep. This was longstanding debate in my engineering class back in college.
Sadly- Sasol is sitting on a massive debt pile (Lake Charles project etc) so the hit will be even worse financially.
Their share price has gone like 80% to 90% down from close to R500 around a year ago.
 
"While in Europe and North America, funding might be available to balance the number of severely ill with the number of hospital beds and ventilators, we do not see this as a viable option for South Africa."
"It has given the medical community time to prepare for the predicted surge of seriously ill patients. The public has also been handed a clear indication of the gravity of the situation. It has not, however, eradicated the anticipated pandemic from our country, merely delayed it."
"You have successfully galvanised unanimous support for the tremendous challenge facing us as a country and specifically as the healthcare profession."
"Many patients without Covid-19 are not getting the treatment they require due to the hospitals being emptied for Covid-19 patients. Many of these patients are avoiding hospitals and having their out-patient appointments cancelled. Disruptions in regular prevention programmes, such as immunisation schedules for infants or sexual and reproductive health promotion will undercut our few hard-won health gains since democracy. Together these are steadily building up a backlog of health care that is potentially a crisis in itself."
"Our healthcare system and the economy were already on their knees at the outbreak of Covid-19. The negative effects of keeping the country on the present “hard” lockdown – or even a relatively “light” lockdown – are innumerable. We appeal to you to lift the hard lockdown as soon as possible."
"Last and by no means least, it may be well served to reassure the public, as there is an ill-founded fear that contraction of Covid-19 is fatal, and the misconception that a lockdown would purge us of Sars-CoV-2. This present fear has caused many people to discount the future of our country, which is currently at risk."
I'm not going to bother further.this article or letter says things it contradicts in the next paragraph.
I think it's totally selfish of them and their points suck.
If you want to have the lockdown lifted due to the economy don't bring in kids to raise your point. We are supposed to protect them not expose them to a threat we don't know how to understand yet.
I'm done nagging. For intelligent people I don't have to much faith in them.
They are saying they are not prepared,the country is not prepared ,but is willing to have the rest of the country exposed while there's no bed available and no other patients can be treated with other ailments (like already). They don't make sense. Unless they need a break because of working so much and can't handle it... Then ask for a break!
 
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M.Adhir said:
Lol imagine if every couriered vapemail has to be delivered by SAPO

Oh well - at least juice will get a 3 month steep while en route from JHB Mail Centre to Sandton Post office
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At least you know you would have vapemail all through lockdown in a steady 3month interval:facepalm:
 
Day 25 , I think, 10:40
Went to bed 12:00 and up 09:30 , going to make feta cheese today , the brawn from yesterday is still settling , will try later .The Grove is quiet today , had a couple if patrols yesterday , is the army in the townships because I haven't seen one of their patrols yet ?
Played Age of Empires 2 on STEAM yesterday , forgot what a fun game it is , any ''Fall out 76'' players here ? Want to get the new Wastelanders, released a week ago . I prefer playing on pc , what's your platform ?
Stay safe , update later folks.
 
ARYANTO said:
Day 25 , I think, 10:40
Went to bed 12:00 and up 09:30 , going to make feta cheese today , the brawn from yesterday is still settling , will try later .
Played Age of Empires 2 on STEAM yesterday , forgot what a fun game it is , any ''Fall out 76'' players here ? Want to get the new Wastelanders, released a week ago . I prefer playing on pc , what's your platform ?
Stay safe , update later folks.
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Lockdown has made me really regret donating my PS3 and PS4 consoles last year :-(.
Been trying to find one during lockdown but these JHB North fools want R6000+ for a used console with 3 or 4 games. Madness
 
Had to go to Dischem. Quite shocked to see the complacency among people. No problem to go talk to some one, no social distancing, only the old folk like me wearing masks.No respect of distance from the other people in the queue. We may flatten the curve but this is not over.
 
Dela Rey Steyn said:
Interesting read:
https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/art...resident-ramaphosa-end-hard-lockdown-now/amp/

@Grand Guru & @Adephi, your take on this?
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Believe me everybody wants this lockdown to end. Every doctor and politician and every single resident is inconvenienced by this. So e not so much but for the most part it is crippling. But this virus is waiting for us to lower our guard.

Think of a tsunami about to hit. We hear the alarms and see how big it is and how many could be displaced by it and even lose their lives. Now if we could put some barriers in place to soften it a bit and possibly delay the hit so people can get evacuated. That would be great and doubt anybody would object to it.

This virus is like a tsunami except we can't see it. The lockdown so far has pushed the peak back. Initially it was expected in June or July. With the first lockdown it was pushed back to August. The extension pushed it into September. Now if only they get it into October it will be completely out of the flu season freeing up hospital beds and ventilators and medical staff to somehow try and manage this a bit.

But there are other factors thats coming into play. Like other medical procedures mentioned in the article that is now being delayed that could be equally disastrous.

Its why the decision to stop the lockdown is so difficult. All we can do is listen to the authorities and take it a day at a time now. It has worked so far.

I think some services will open after next week. But in no means will it be a total lift of the lockdown. Booze and smokes will stay off the menu. Some take aways might open. Maybe some industries but it will be a trickle and nothing like being completely open for business.
 
Day 25 : Today I had the opportunity to work with a amazing group of people that drop food hampers for people that really need it in this lockdown time.They are all truly LEGENDS!

Cape Town looks like a scene from " I Am Legend" in the day.

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So one of the main reasons the minister gave for not allowing cigarette sales is that people touch the cigarette with their hands and then put in in their mouth.
Hmmmmm
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Jean claude Vaaldamme said:
So one of the main reasons the minister gave for not allowing cigarette sales is that people touch the cigarette with their hands and then put in in their mouth.
Hmmmmm
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Fair enough. In context though,
With restaurants and fast food places closed
and Deli's in stored being closed so "exposed" food isn't being sold either for the most part
You're preparing food at home
One would hope that hands get washed properly prior to using them as feeding utensils

Cigarettes also has to do with people sharing smokes
People spending extra time in shops buying smokes
People going out just to buy smokes
Smoking increasing your chance of having respiratory issues and needing a ventilator which could be used for a serious COVID patient instead
 
Resistance said:
"While in Europe and North America, funding might be available to balance the number of severely ill with the number of hospital beds and ventilators, we do not see this as a viable option for South Africa."
"It has given the medical community time to prepare for the predicted surge of seriously ill patients. The public has also been handed a clear indication of the gravity of the situation. It has not, however, eradicated the anticipated pandemic from our country, merely delayed it."
"You have successfully galvanised unanimous support for the tremendous challenge facing us as a country and specifically as the healthcare profession."
"Many patients without Covid-19 are not getting the treatment they require due to the hospitals being emptied for Covid-19 patients. Many of these patients are avoiding hospitals and having their out-patient appointments cancelled. Disruptions in regular prevention programmes, such as immunisation schedules for infants or sexual and reproductive health promotion will undercut our few hard-won health gains since democracy. Together these are steadily building up a backlog of health care that is potentially a crisis in itself."
"Our healthcare system and the economy were already on their knees at the outbreak of Covid-19. The negative effects of keeping the country on the present “hard” lockdown – or even a relatively “light” lockdown – are innumerable. We appeal to you to lift the hard lockdown as soon as possible."
"Last and by no means least, it may be well served to reassure the public, as there is an ill-founded fear that contraction of Covid-19 is fatal, and the misconception that a lockdown would purge us of Sars-CoV-2. This present fear has caused many people to discount the future of our country, which is currently at risk."
I'm not going to bother further.this article or letter says things it contradicts in the next paragraph.
I think it's totally selfish of them and their points suck.
If you want to have the lockdown lifted due to the economy don't bring in kids to raise your point. We are supposed to protect them not expose them to a threat we don't know how to understand yet.
I'm done nagging. For intelligent people I don't have to much faith in them.
They are saying they are not prepared,the country is not prepared ,but is willing to have the rest of the country exposed while there's no bed available and no other patients can be treated with other ailments (like already). They don't make sense. Unless they need a break because of working so much and can't handle it... Then ask for a break!
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I have rearranged the fist few paragraphs and it reads totally different. Not because i
Adephi said:
Believe me everybody wants this lockdown to end. Every doctor and politician and every single resident is inconvenienced by this. So e not so much but for the most part it is crippling. But this virus is waiting for us to lower our guard.

Think of a tsunami about to hit. We hear the alarms and see how big it is and how many could be displaced by it and even lose their lives. Now if we could put some barriers in place to soften it a bit and possibly delay the hit so people can get evacuated. That would be great and doubt anybody would object to it.

This virus is like a tsunami except we can't see it. The lockdown so far has pushed the peak back. Initially it was expected in June or July. With the first lockdown it was pushed back to August. The extension pushed it into September. Now if only they get it into October it will be completely out of the flu season freeing up hospital beds and ventilators and medical staff to somehow try and manage this a bit.

But there are other factors thats coming into play. Like other medical procedures mentioned in the article that is now being delayed that could be equally disastrous.

Its why the decision to stop the lockdown is so difficult. All we can do is listen to the authorities and take it a day at a time now. It has worked so far.

I think some services will open after next week. But in no means will it be a total lift of the lockdown. Booze and smokes will stay off the menu. Some take aways might open. Maybe some industries but it will be a trickle and nothing like being completely open for business.
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I agree with you. The blow is and was softened. Now what if it wasn't then these Drs. Asking for the lockdown to be lifted would have Skat their pants already.
The way I see this going forward is to get volunteers that applied for healthcare posts and give them a decent initiation to bail out the medical staff. The way I see it is faster entry into the field with additional credits. Then they need to prioritize a facility or two in a district for other medical cases so that doesn't lead to a another terminal catastrophe. And then see how to phase out the lockout. Also in phases because if that don't work initially, then it's not too much to handle at one given time.
All of us have a role to play and people are not following the orders given. Stay indoors and keep at distance.
Yet we see the figures rising daily.
I think it will take a reality check close to home to make people realise what were not in for,but in for already and this reminds me of the famous saying."spyt kom altyd te laat"
Now we can all vote yay for the economy and wonder what's going to happen next if I don't get to work and make some cash for food etc. And obviously the things we want ,but don't really need.
The main question is what's going to happen if we get sick and don't recover what's money going to do for us then?
Most already have much more than they need. What about those that don't have and can't afford to loose more.
Life is so much more important than that!

I hope our President don't fall for cheap tricks. He didn't show weakness and I hope he doesn't anytime soon!
 
M.Adhir said:
Fair enough. In context though,
With restaurants and fast food places closed
and Deli's in stored being closed so "exposed" food isn't being sold either for the most part
You're preparing food at home
One would hope that hands get washed properly prior to using them as feeding utensils

Cigarettes also has to do with people sharing smokes
People spending extra time in shops buying smokes
People going out just to buy smokes
Smoking increasing your chance of having respiratory issues and needing a ventilator which could be used for a serious COVID patient instead
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I wonder if the ban on cooked food at supermarkets isn't in order to reduce the number of trips people would make. Now those who would have popped in to buy a meal won't be able to?
 
Had one of those horrible housework days today. What gets me about housework is that you dust and sweep and mop the floor and then you have to do it all over again next year.
 
Hooked said:
I wonder if the ban on cooked food at supermarkets isn't in order to reduce the number of trips people would make. Now those who would have popped in to buy a meal won't be able to?
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Yeah. That and exposed food contact.
 
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