Loose MTL?

[Paul33]

So I’ve been a bit bored with vaping of late so I thought I would go right outside my comfort zone and try MTL (ish)

My normal vaping style is DL to RDL and 0.3-0.5 ohm anywhere from 22w to 30w. Not huge power or anything crazy.

I grabbed a set of the hex white collar aliens and threw one in my druga. Came out at 0.7ohm and vaping at 12w and it’s quite nice I won’t lie.

I’m not ready for tight MTL yet I don’t think so my question is what rta’s are out there that give a nice loose MTL draw?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Spunk3yMunk3y]

@Intuthu Kagesi loves a loose MTL draw
The hellvape MD MTL RTA comes to mind but I'm very sure there are others I'm unaware of. Interesting side note, of you take a cig and do a dry puff (don't light it) you'll see that the draw isn't as tight as some "True MTL" tanks can go.

 

[Resistance]

So I’ve been a bit bored with vaping of late so I thought I would go right outside my comfort zone and try MTL (ish)

My normal vaping style is DL to RDL and 0.3-0.5 ohm anywhere from 22w to 30w. Not huge power or anything crazy.

I grabbed a set of the hex white collar aliens and threw one in my druga. Came out at 0.7ohm and vaping at 12w and it’s quite nice I won’t lie.

I’m not ready for tight MTL yet I don’t think so my question is what rta’s are out there that give a nice loose MTL draw?

Thanks in advance.

HI. Try the Galaxies RTDA. Variable MTL to RDL

 

[Resistance]

It's been rocking on this mod for a while now.
I've just recoiled with a bigger coil and it's still rocking!

 

[CashKat88]

Ether.... You need an Ether bud, the best Loose MTL RTA ever, the flavour so far has not been beaten by anything, put it up against so many MTL Atties, most recently the Dwarv MTL and the Ether just spanks the competition.

 

[Timwis]

The Bishop and Nevermore both have a great loose MTL draw within their capabilities but if a loose MTL is what you are looking for then after the explosion of MTL RTA's over the last 2 and half years you really are spoilt for choice!

 

[Intuthu Kagesi]

So I’ve been a bit bored with vaping of late so I thought I would go right outside my comfort zone and try MTL (ish)

My normal vaping style is DL to RDL and 0.3-0.5 ohm anywhere from 22w to 30w. Not huge power or anything crazy.

I grabbed a set of the hex white collar aliens and threw one in my druga. Came out at 0.7ohm and vaping at 12w and it’s quite nice I won’t lie.

I’m not ready for tight MTL yet I don’t think so my question is what rta’s are out there that give a nice loose MTL draw?

Thanks in advance.

There's a bargain MD up for grabs in the classifieds

I vape in that grey area between Loose MTL and RDL, and when you couple that with a small chamber, a plain wire SS coil along with air feed directly underneath it, and decent airflow, you'll battle to beat this tank ... certainly at the price point.
You can also loosen the draw still more, by blueprinting the insert, (aka taking it factory spec), by widening the largest insert to the published spec of 2mm.

 

[Paul33]

0.71 @ 14w with the airflow half closed with some Good Boy inside the druga. Pretty damn good I won’t lie.

 

[Paul33]

0.71 @ 14w with the airflow half closed with some Good Boy inside the druga. Pretty damn good I won’t lie.

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Not true MTL I know but very restricted rdl and it’s yum.

 

[Intuthu Kagesi]

Not true MTL I know but very restricted rdl and it’s yum.

I call it the grey zone, (the space between Loose DL and RDL), and you're right ... It is YUM!, and certainly my preference as an ADV ... In my opinion, it's also the closest you'll get to a cigarette wrt "mouth vacuum requirements", (get hold of a ciggie and do a comparative suck test)

 

[Timwis]

Not true MTL I know

Maybe not Old School MTL, but probably is where MTL is for most in 2022! In that grey area between MTL & RDL! Average wattage for MTL 2015 7-8w tight draw, 2022 12-20w with much looser draws! You can get a flavour banging loose MTL with a 0.5 even as low as 0.4ohm coil, the days of 1.0+ is needed for a MTL have long gone,

 

[Paul33]

Maybe not Old School MTL, but probably is where MTL is for most in 2022! In that grey area between MTL & RDL! Average wattage for MTL 2015 7-8w tight draw, 2022 12-20w with much looser draws! You can get a flavour banging loose MTL with a 0.5 even as low as 0.4ohm coil, the days of 1.0+ is needed for a MTL have long gone,

definitely not old school crazy tight mtl but the flavour has improved greatly I must admit, I'm really enjoying it.

@DarthBranMuffin moaned at me the other day and told me how stupid i was being and i must try mtl even in a loose mtl way like this and it pains me to say he was right!

 

[Paul33]

does 3mm or 2.5mm coil make a difference to mtl in the grand scheme of things?

current coil is 3mm.

 

[Timwis]

does 3mm or 2.5mm coil make a difference to mtl in the grand scheme of things?

current coil is 3mm.

It's RTA dependant, depends on height as well, sometimes a baby Alien is the way to go sometimes simple round wire but quite often a difference of opinion which is another reason why MTL/tight RDL is for me the way to go, it's a lot more personal, intense experience!

 

[Timwis]

flavour has improved greatly

And some, MTL has moved on more than any other style of late! I know not everyone would agree but for me a vape with at least some restriction gives much better flavour than wide open DL, maybe the flavours there but I'm not willing to go the silly wattages in search of it!

 

[Intuthu Kagesi]

does 3mm or 2.5mm coil make a difference to mtl in the grand scheme of things?

current coil is 3mm.

Indeed! ... I've pretty much settled on a 2.5mm in both the MD and Vertex ... 6 spaced turns of 28G SS, (+-0.6 Ohm), albeit that I run MUCH lower power levels than you, (6 to 10 Watts dependant on the juice / Nic %)

 

[Paul33]

i do like the look of the BSKR mini v2.

how loose is the 2.0mm airflow insert if anyone has tried one?

 

[Grand Guru]

The BSKR V2 provides a pretty loose draw.

 

[Timwis]

i do like the look of the BSKR mini v2.

how loose is the 2.0mm airflow insert if anyone has tried one?

Loose MTL/ very RDL- Problem is taking it's the largest airflow (not used the mini V2) if it's not quite loose enough there is nowhere to go! Even airflow size differs in what they actually deliver dependant on tank design a 2.0 on one RTA can feel quite restrictive (even a medium MTL) while on another RTA can give more a tight RDL!

 

[Paul33]

Loose MTL/ very RDL- Problem is taking it's the largest airflow (not used the mini V2) if it's not quite loose enough there is nowhere to go! Even airflow size differs in what they actually deliver dependant on tank design a 2.0 on one RTA can feel quite restrictive (even a medium MTL) while on another RTA can give more a tight RDL!

i hear you and that would suck.

 

[Paul33]

would probably be prudent to stick to the druga with the curernt build in for a while and see if i still enjoy it in a few weeks before spending money.

 

[Paul33]

and wait for @DarthBranMuffin to be covid free and then go raid his mtl rta stock!

 

[Grand Guru]

I think @Paul33 is confusing the BSKR (MTL-RDL) and the BSKR mini (true MTL)

 

[Timwis]

The BSKR V2 provides a pretty loose draw.

The original Mini though was tighter than it's bigger brother whether that is the case with V2 no idea because I haven't used the Mini V2 but yep the BSKR V2 gives nice loose draws!

 

[Paul33]

I think @Paul33 is confusing the BSKR (MTL-RDL) and the BSKR mini (true MTL)

there is a big chance of that due to me being confused most of the time in general.