My mod just exploded! Fire!

Ouch. Yeah a venting battery is no fun. Must have been a short. Those coil insulators compress if you tighten the mods pin to hard. Thats my guess as to what happened.
 
Hey mate sorry to hear eh...what really bothers me about this is the time span, most ppl don't even get time to chuck it...no heating up...just instant boom...sadly I have become a huge mech fan...

Batteries dont just go BOOM! there is a time you have to throw it.. The battery will take anywhere from 12seconds to a minute to fully vent. It will heat up and get extremely hot before venting. YOUTUBE it.

The reason why I think its the atty pin is also because as your put your tank on the mod it started to vent, 12seconds later you pressed fire and boom. Only logical explanation for this incident.
 
Batteries dont just go BOOM! there is a time you have to throw it.. The battery will take anywhere from 12seconds to a minute to fully vent. It will heat up and get extremely hot before venting. YOUTUBE it.

The reason why I think its the atty pin is also because as your put your tank on the mod it started to vent, 12seconds later you pressed fire and boom. Only logical explanation for this incident.
I have youtubed this topic over and over again, and have seen that it often takes longer than a minute, my mate built a mod that shorted, he actually had the time to unscrew it and throw the battery out before it vented, but it did get sh*t hot instantly. What I don't understand is why it explodes in ppl's hands on occasion, I mean logic tells me that my mod would go flying with any unknown activity. I really wanna get behind this as I only use mechs.
 
I have youtubed this topic over and over again, and have seen that it often takes longer than a minute, my mate built a mod that shorted, he actually had the time to unscrew it and throw the battery out before it vented, but it did get sh*t hot instantly. What I don't understand is why it explodes in ppl's hands on occasion, I mean logic tells me that my mod would go flying with any unknown activity. I really wanna get behind this as I only use mechs.

The "kaboom" part is the same as with all explosive devices - it's the pressure which builds up that causes the casing to come apart which causes the damage. Think of blowing up a balloon: once it reaches maximum capacity and you keep blowing in more air, it explodes - if there are holes in the balloon it will not pop (depending on the speed of air coming in vs the size/amount of holes letting air out).

The best advice for any mech...make sure it has adequate vent holes (a single tiny hole is NOT adequate). This way even if the battery starts venting there will not be enough pressure (the air escapes through the vent holes) to cause the device to explode. This goes for all devices that use a battery - vent holes are crucial for safety.
 
I once put my mech down and the fire button activated. About two minutes later i smelt burning. The mod had been firing for the whole time, everything was super hot but luckily the kayfun attached didn't suffer permanent damage.
 
The "kaboom" part is the same as with all explosive devices - it's the pressure which builds up that causes the casing to come apart which causes the damage. Think of blowing up a balloon: once it reaches maximum capacity and you keep blowing in more air, it explodes - if there are holes in the balloon it will not pop (depending on the speed of air coming in vs the size/amount of holes letting air out).

The best advice for any mech...make sure it has adequate vent holes (a single tiny hole is NOT adequate). This way even if the battery starts venting there will not be enough pressure (the air escapes through the vent holes) to cause the device to explode. This goes for all devices that use a battery - vent holes are crucial for safety.
Yup a mod without a vent hole is essentially a pipe bomb.
Easy way to test is to take the top cap off and blow through the tube you should be able to blow air through it without much resistance. Then put the top cap on with an atty remove the switch assembly and repeat. Some mods vent on top and some through the switch assembly. The less resistant side is the one you want to keep away from you when your batt starts getting hot. If I feel a mod get hot it goes out a window quick like. I go look for it 10min later.
 
So, it's been a good few days since the "incident" and I have barely been able to vape.

I cleaned my beloved panzer, and built a single parallel coil for my very first dripper, my Trident V2, wicked it and dripped some NCV Milked.

I managed to take 2 toots before I couldn't handle it and screwed the mod apart and took the battery out. I think I've lost confidence in my gear...
 
I'm also over Mechs after a few incidences.
 
This is why I'm quite happy to stay far, far away from mech mods...

lol.....why? Mech mods are the best. I've vaped on mech mods since I started. I have only one regulated device and use it rarely.
It's all about being careful and not trying to do stupid things like building too low for the battery to handle. I vape 99% on mech mods.
Two Reos and a Dimitri. Also have a tube mech mod that I'll never sell. I've never had a bettery that vented. :)
 
lol.....why? Mech mods are the best. I've vaped on mech mods since I started. I have only one regulated device and use it rarely.
It's all about being careful and not trying to do stupid things like building too low for the battery to handle. I vape 99% on mech mods.
Two Reos and a Dimitri. Also have a tube mech mod that I'll never sell. I've never had a bettery that vented. :)

I get what you're saying but i can say, without a doubt, that I am a very cautious individual.
Now one mistake shouldn't have such dire results. Also i have never built anything lower than 0.4ohm.
 
lol.....why? Mech mods are the best. I've vaped on mech mods since I started. I have only one regulated device and use it rarely.
It's all about being careful and not trying to do stupid things like building too low for the battery to handle. I vape 99% on mech mods.
Two Reos and a Dimitri. Also have a tube mech mod that I'll never sell. I've never had a bettery that vented. :)

A mech is like a motorcycle. Some ride all their lives without incident, and others run into problems quickly and/or frequently. The bottom line is that compared to regulated devices with safety features, they are more risky to use - even if you do everything right. It's just the nature of it and it's a risk you either take or don't - to each their own ;)
 
I love the cool factor of mechs. that's why I will return.
I like your analogy @free3dom as i am currently looking to become a biker as well ;)

Go for it! Bikes are awesome :rock:

I also enjoy the risk part of some things - I'm just aware of it and I choose to take the risk. Risk adds something to an experience (even if it's a risk that is dependent on yourself for the most part) :)

Give it some time with the mechs...after a while you'll "get back on" once the psychological effect has faded a bit. The upside is that you've now learned something very important without serious injury - in the long run, that's a very good thing :D
 
I get what you're saying but i can say, without a doubt, that I am a very cautious individual.
Now one mistake shouldn't have such dire results. Also i have never built anything lower than 0.4ohm.

Well, one mistake can have dire results in almost any situation. A very cautious person can one day step off a sidewalk and in front of a bus, but that doesn't mean everybody should stop stepping off a sidewalk....lol
My point is, one mistake shouldn't be used to judge a particular device or situation.
I mean, we all know that almost every cellphone brand had a battery explode or caught fire at some point, yet we all still use those brands of cellphones.
Just my 2c. Not trying to prove anyone wrong here. Just my opinion. :)
 
Hi @phanatik

Only caught up with this thread now. Glad you are ok.
Thanks for sharing the expeirence and thanks to all the mech fundis for your advice
Certainly raises the awareness on vaping safety - particularly with mechanical setups - and this is much needed in my opinion.

@phanatik, did you take any pics of the mod and/or damage?
I would really love to see - and i think it will add value to this thread
 
Hi @phanatik, I know how you feel... I also am nervous to play with the mech mod I made the mistake of screwing the Atlantis on... I know the issue is with the Atlantis but I'm still nervous and haven't touched it since...
 
I thinks safety is important in both mechanical and regulated mods. If you go through the history of this forum you will find as many instances of regulated mods auto firing, breaking out in flames, etcetera as mechanical mods. I mostly use Reos (mechanical), which have a hot spring, a lockable button and a huge venting hole (squonk hole), but I still only use the best of batteries I can find, make extra sure I build safe coils and maintain my device properly. The same applies to the regulated mods I own - still prefer safer (IMR type) batteries, build safe coils and maintain the mod to the best of my ability. Those with LIPO (fixed) batteries I only charge under supervision.
 
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Damn. I had a close call when I screwed my Subtank onto a friends SMPL that had a purple EFEST in it. Tube got super hot but I got lucky and no explosion.
At one point, I was using my Subtank mini on SMPL (with a Sony VTC4) quite a bit without any issues - the pin protrudes much further than the Atlantis (mine is actually almost recessed). But then read a few bad reports and scary venting stories like this and obviously stopped and will never again use a commercial tank on any mech. I'm actually going to sell the SMPL after reading this thread. Don't see much need in mech tubes - happy with a collapsible spring on the reo (or a regulated mod). Glad you're okay!
 
Hi @Silver and All,

I will post pics this evening of what i could find.

The delrin insulator surrounding the positive pin is gone. the pin itself i've found. the top cap is still missing and only found the base and the driptip of the aerotank :p
 
So my paragon is unusable.
The force that ripped the top cap and the atty off naturally stripped the entire thread within.
So glad it wasn't in my mouth/face.


Dude check my post it's under 18650 2500mah 3.7 volts. I posted pics of my hand. Hybrid apollo caught on fire. Once a battery heats up. For instance you fire and there is a short. The positive and negative coils / wraps within battery have shorted. The battery must be thrown away. 2 if you going to use mechs make sure there is many fuking air holes. Shorts do happen batteries can over charge. Shit does go wrong mechs are dangerous. I've now got a amp meter. I test all batteries. Good luck take care.
 
Dude check my post it's under 18650 2500mah 3.7 volts. I posted pics of my hand. Hybrid apollo caught on fire. Once a battery heats up. For instance you fire and there is a short. The positive and negative coils / wraps within battery have shorted. The battery must be thrown away. 2 if you going to use mechs make sure there is many fuking air holes. Shorts do happen batteries can over charge. Shit does go wrong mechs are dangerous. I've now got a amp meter. I test all batteries. Good luck take care.
Damn. OK. I'll have to toss a few batteries then as I don't know which ones could have been compromised. Damn. Damn. Damn. Thanks my man. Think you saved my assignment there.

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So, it's been a good few days since the "incident" and I have barely been able to vape.

I cleaned my beloved panzer, and built a single parallel coil for my very first dripper, my Trident V2, wicked it and dripped some NCV Milked.

I managed to take 2 toots before I couldn't handle it and screwed the mod apart and took the battery out. I think I've lost confidence in my gear...
Sorry to hear mate...:-(
 
lol.....why? Mech mods are the best. I've vaped on mech mods since I started. I have only one regulated device and use it rarely.
It's all about being careful and not trying to do stupid things like building too low for the battery to handle. I vape 99% on mech mods.
Two Reos and a Dimitri. Also have a tube mech mod that I'll never sell. I've never had a bettery that vented. :)
I'm on mechs aswell due to all my regulated mods failing....buttons, chips etc...guess it comes down to, check ur builds with mechs, and check your grip with regs...lol...they brake if they drop.
 
I'm on mechs aswell due to all my regulated mods failing....buttons, chips etc...guess it comes down to, check ur builds with mechs, and check your grip with regs...lol...they brake if they drop.

There's an even better option :nerd:





...get a Reo

:eek: Yeah I said it :-D


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