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Hi all, my moms been smoking for about 16 years and I would like to convert her to vaping she tried my dripbox 60 for a week or so and liked it so I would like to get her a mod but a bit strapped for cash. Any body that can help with a base steup

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If you are going to buy a budget vape for your mom, could I suggest something like the Joyetech AIO range. There are quite a fee to choose.

There's the AIO, AIO D22, AIO D16, AIO D22 XL and you also get a box type AIO.

D22 XL and Box AIO are both decent. Good battery life and XL has a nice sized tank.

If you in Cape Town, there's a few vendors who sell it. PM me and I can point you in the right direction.
 
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I still really enjoy my E-sense pen. You can find them at Spar or Pick n Pay - usually for about R400. Similar to a twisp, but at half the price and affordable juices. I have a K-box mini but the pen is still my ADV device for work and driving etc. Nice and discreet. The coils last well (2 weeks with dark liquids - 6 weeks if you stick to mint like I do). I use the K-box with premium liquids but have it more for a treat. The small e-cigarette suits me perfectly and is cheap for the quality. I'm an ex menthol smoker, so that's probably also why I favour them.
 
I might be stepping on some loose stones here but as a teacher and home owner I often find myself in the situation of giving away free things and often do that as a vaper as well when members come around for a visit or some juice so I am no stranger to it.

But I cringe when people start abusing the system ........ nothing personal @SSSSMARCUSSSSS....... since I don't know you.

I would safely bet that more members would be willing to help other members if they actually showed a more active involvement/interest in the forum other than just PIF posts. :)
Some advice from a 46 year old to a 21 year old.
 
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KZOR said:
I might be stepping on some loose stones here but as a teacher and home owner I often find myself in the situation of giving away free things and often do that as a vaper as well when members come around for a visit or some juice so I am no stranger to it.

But I cringe when people start abusing the system ........ nothing personal @SSSSMARCUSSSSS....... since I don't know you.

I would safely bet that more members would be willing to help other members if they actually showed a more active involvement/interest in the forum other than just PIF posts. :)
Some advice from a 46 year old to a 21 year old.
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Thanks @KZOR for putting that forward so politely, the tact of a teacher indeed. This thread irked me.
 
I thought I might just throw my 2c in on this matter, having been a recipient of a PIF.

What I'm seeing here, is the essence or the true philosophy of PIF, being scuffed and tainted. I get it, there's folks who come on, and their first post on the forum is in PIF. Its not cool. At the same time, there's people who want to give up smoking or pursue the hobbies of vaping, and they just not by the means.

After receiving a PIF, I had a new outlook on humanity. The act of giving without expecting anything in return, just blew my mind.

My personal view on it, is if I am able to give something on PIF, and I'm by the means, I will. This may sound selfish or self centred, but I will feel good about it, knowing that I paid it forward. What the other person does with it, is their thing.

If they are a freeloader and go on to sell it for their own good, that's the persons cr@p, and they have to live with it, and in the long run, if a person has that type of mentality, they really won't get far in life, and not experience the awesome spirituality that a kind act does.

I remember in my post that one of the people who commented here, also had quite a lot to say. I just remember that its the other persons cr@p, and if I keep my side of the road clean, am honest and open, all will be well.

To ask for help or assistance is not easy for many, especially when asking for something of value.

To say nothing, often speaks volumes.
 
Thank you for that perspective @Vaporeon13.

To my mind the essence of PIF is unconditional giving and expecting nothing in return, not even gratitude. Always with the hope that the receiver will, at some stage, pay the kindness forward in whatever way.

Of course, like many others here, I have experienced a giving misused, which angers me in the moment, but very soon realizing there were no strings attached to the giving. All in all my experience in this regard has been overwhelmingly positive.

To PIF is voluntary. If you do not like the asking, you do not have to respond, but one can never know the true circumstances of the person asking.
 
It is not the asking for a PIF, it is the lack of "please" - that little word really goes a long way in the perception of the "need".
I may just be old school, but I have been brought up with manners. I also have no problem with PIFFing, I have PIffed all my starter gear, some more, and shall conitinue doing just that.
 
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If you do not like the asking, you do not have to respond, but one can never know the true circumstances of the person asking
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That is another thing we will never agree on.

Where would society be if everyone kept quiet when seeing a action that does not conform with accepted morality. I WILL not help someone again if no gratitude is displayed by the receiver. I am pro discipline and pro manners and a large portion of the youth of today display terrible manners and conduct.

Displaying gratitude is supposed to be a natural reflex conditioned by your surroundings and promotes a mutual feeling of goodness.
I never expect material gratification but MOST CERTAINLY verbal gratification.

I will never condone bad manners just because of "possible unknown" circumstances. It takes a second or two to say "thanks" or "please" and it is more often than not beneficial to both parties.
 
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