New Counterfeit Vtc5 Batteries

Lol I'm confused its a rewrapped Panasonic NCR18650BE which according to panasonics specs is 4A continuous and 6.4A pulse. But efest claims 10A or 20A and someone else claims 10A.

My recommendation use in 15W max regulated mods thats just me I like my face.
 
Lol I'm confused its a rewrapped Panasonic NCR18650BE which according to panasonics specs is 4A continuous and 6.4A pulse. But efest claims 10A or 20A and someone else claims 10A.

My recommendation use in 15W max regulated mods thats just me I like my face.
On a preponderance of probabilities from what I have read, seems the Continuous Discharge Rating is 10A. But, agree all this because Efest is dishonest in their marketing - makes me want to throw all mine away and never buy Efest again.
 
Dear customer, thank you for your inquiry.
The 18650 type batteries are no longer manufactured by Sony.
This product was never intended for individual, public sale and are not eligible for warranty or engineering support.
It was only available to OEM makers of specific devices.

The specifications and markings on the battery may vary depending upon the OEM’s requirements. Therefore, it is difficult to determine the true manufacturer or authenticity of the batteries without physical inspection and manufacturing code research.
This type of battery is widely available on the internet market through non-authorized resellers.
Therefore, Sony is not liable for the performance or use of this type battery for non-intended purposes.
Such applications should be done at the user’s own risk.
Furthermore, any battery of this type claimed to be Sony brand may be older stock.
We apologize that we cannot offer further assistance with this matter.
Sincerely,
Media Services by Sony

http://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/2cttd4/sony_vtc5_18650_notice_from_sony/
 
So that's why, the failure to meet the market demand! ...
 
i ordered 3 VTC 5's from Vapemob

@Chop007 , i recall you saying that your VTC5's were confirmed as being legit. Correct?
Yes, all our VTC5 batteries are completely Legit, we checked every single one of them. I even removed the wrappers and confirmed it. All the markings, down to the seem and the QR code are completely legit. Here is a thread on spotting fake Sony VTC5 Batteries: http://www.sun-vapers.com/how-to-spot-a-fake-sony-vtc5-battery/

I would never use a fake battery in my device and am really safety conscious. They ARE extremely difficult to get a hold of, but we have connections.
 
Dear customer, thank you for your inquiry.
The 18650 type batteries are no longer manufactured by Sony.
This product was never intended for individual, public sale and are not eligible for warranty or engineering support.
It was only available to OEM makers of specific devices.

The specifications and markings on the battery may vary depending upon the OEM’s requirements. Therefore, it is difficult to determine the true manufacturer or authenticity of the batteries without physical inspection and manufacturing code research.
This type of battery is widely available on the internet market through non-authorized resellers.
Therefore, Sony is not liable for the performance or use of this type battery for non-intended purposes.
Such applications should be done at the user’s own risk.
Furthermore, any battery of this type claimed to be Sony brand may be older stock.
We apologize that we cannot offer further assistance with this matter.
Sincerely,
Media Services by Sony

http://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/2cttd4/sony_vtc5_18650_notice_from_sony/

That post on redit was made by "something_amusing' as his/her name goes on reddit. I would not always rely on redit as the lord of all facts. If you would like to, you could run the stress tests, gather the analytic data and then be certain of your facts. I for one am certain of our batteries genuine nature and only use VTC5 in all my mods and devices. Please also note, the 'Only available to OEM makers of specific devices' within that reddit comment.

We have gone through many hassles to get the VTC5 batteries in and to get the genuine ones in.
 
Yes, all our VTC5 batteries are completely Legit, we checked every single one of them. I even removed the wrappers and confirmed it. All the markings, down to the seem and the QR code are completely legit. Here is a thread on spotting fake Sony VTC5 Batteries: http://www.sun-vapers.com/how-to-spot-a-fake-sony-vtc5-battery/

I would never use a fake battery in my device and am really safety conscious. They ARE extremely difficult to get a hold of, but we have connections.
Thanks for the response mate. Glad to know you guys are on the ball and making sure all is legit. :D
 
Thanks for the response mate. Glad to know you guys are on the ball and making sure all is legit. :D
No worries pal, you know, I find it funny that we go through all the legitimate channels to ensure our vapers get only the best, we carry out the tests, both quantitative and real world, and then one simple post on the forum can make our batteries seem fake. And that being based off another company who got fake VTC 5's and some post on reddit that could have been faked.

Anyways, all mellow, what a world, got to love it.
 
@Chop007 No one said that your batteries seem fake bud. I even said that i recalled you saying that you guys had ensured that were real and simply wanted you to confirm.

After spending my own money, and being a little concerned with all these fakes floating around as well as with manufacturers claiming figures their batteries don't even come close to, all i wanted was a little peace of mind.
 
@Chop007 No one said that your batteries seem fake bud. I even said that i recalled you saying that you guys had ensured that were real and simply wanted you to confirm.

After spending my own money, and being a little concerned with all these fakes floating around as well as with manufacturers claiming figures their batteries don't even come close to, all i wanted was a little peace of mind.
No worries friend, I too like to make sure my batteries are the real deal. There are many fakes around you are correct.
 
@Chop007, my goal was simply to help inform this community. I know of many people that have purchased or placed orders for VTC5's on the net from various places. I apologize if you felt my posts were directed at the company you represent. That was never the intention. In fact the sunvapers link you refer to was from a previous posting I made on this forum concerning fake VTC5 batteries. Here is that link http://www.ecigssa.co.za/threads/how-to-spot-a-fake-sony-vtc5-battery.3542/
 
This is why i'm scared of bringing in VTC5's etc. Look how closely they are replicated. Its a big risk for retailers.
Yes it is difficult to get them in, and extremely difficult to get the Real ones in.
 
@Chop007, my goal was simply to help inform this community. I know of many people that have purchased or placed orders for VTC5's on the net from various places. I apologize if you felt my posts were directed at the company you represent. That was never the intention. In fact the sunvapers link you refer to was from a previous posting I made on this forum concerning fake VTC5 batteries. Here is that link http://www.ecigssa.co.za/threads/how-to-spot-a-fake-sony-vtc5-battery.3542/
Yeh, it is just that there are not many folks selling VTC5 in South Africa, so, being the only ones selling VTC5 I naturally assumed it was directed at those selling VTC5's. But no worries, we will be posting our very own findings very soon so as to reassure our loyal clients that our batteries are the real deal even though we know the manufacturer who supplies us. We also cannot reveal our supplier because then folks would see how we managed to get the real ones in.

All good, I know your post was just for general information and not directed towards us. I will however be doing a complete and considerable post regarding these batteries and our genuine efest batteries which have also been questioned. If we ever make a mistake of selling a fake battery we do a complete recall, that is why we make absolutely certain they are all genuine. To be continued............,
 
That's even worse news then - not much better than the 3Amp CDC rating of the original Vision Spinner batteries :confused: Why? It just baffles me, makes no sense at all

To those that do not know and are considering buying these (EFest 3100MaH Purple) - read this article and decide for yourself (personally, I wouldn't get these now. EFest is saying one thing but the unwrapped item proves another): https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http://vape.li/efest-imr-18650-3100-mah-20a-attention-ces-batteries-sont-dangereuses/&sandbox=1
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Original Efest Batteries, i.e, not Pansonic batteries that where re wrapped. It is always important to buy from a reputable dealer. We make 100% sure all our batteries are real, so that you can be safe when using them in your mods. This was just a picture of one of the Efest batteries I removed the wrapper from. Great battery with excellent performance. Like our Vision Spinner, our batteries are also the Real Deal.
 
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Original Efest Batteries, i.e, not Pansonic batteries that where re wrapped. It is always important to buy from a reputable dealer. We make 100% sure all our batteries are real, so that you can be safe when using them in your mods. This was just a picture of one of the Efest batteries I removed the wrapper from. Great battery with excellent performance. Like our Vision Spinner, our batteries are also the Real Deal.
Read this thread: http://www.ecigssa.co.za/threads/batteries-update.4146/.
Problem with Efest is not fakes, it is their misleading labelling - as they have now admitted publicly. Their 3100 batts are at most 10A Continous Discharge Current, if that.
 
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We at VapeMOB do not sell fakes nor counterfeits, always genuine, always safe, always verified. We may have made one mistake in the past and then recalled the lot, but we will not do that again.

There is a trick to getting in the original VTC5 batteries. I cannot release that trick nor our connection but rest assured ours are the real deal.
 
VTC5 Batteries, The Real Deal
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We at VapeMOB do not sell fakes nor counterfeits, always genuine, always safe, always verified. We may have made one mistake in the past and then recalled the lot, but we will not do that again.

There is a trick to getting in the original VTC5 batteries. I cannot release that trick nor our connection but rest assured ours are the real deal.

Thank you for all your trouble with the VTC5, even going so far as to take off the wrapping for us. If you compare your picture with the one in the very first post of this thread, your VTC5s are the real, genuine article, which gives me peace of mind to use my VapeMob VTC5s with confidence..
PS: You can post the unwrapped one to me - I have some wrapping to put around it:D.
 
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Original Efest Batteries, i.e, not Pansonic batteries that where re wrapped. It is always important to buy from a reputable dealer. We make 100% sure all our batteries are real, so that you can be safe when using them in your mods. This was just a picture of one of the Efest batteries I removed the wrapper from. Great battery with excellent performance. Like our Vision Spinner, our batteries are also the Real Deal.
Hi @Chop007 I see you disagreeing with me.
Let me set this straight. No one said you where selling fake efests. The problem is efest are selling batteries marked with higher specs than what the cell is suppose to handle.
They buy cells from different manufacturers and wrap them in efest branding, browsing around on ecf and battery review and info sites a few members of the forum and myself have found some shocking info.

The purple efest 30A 2100mah cell is a rewrapped sony vtc4 thats great.

The purple efest 35A 2500mah cell is a rewrapped LG Cell and its specs don't match up to what efest claims.

The purple efest 20A 3100 cell is the worst lie of the lot, even efest are saying 10A continuous discharge now even though the wrapper says 20A and the cell which they source from panasonic is rated at 4A.

Efest is making false claims.
 
@Chop007 I see you have gone to great lengths to show us that Vapemob sell legit VTC 5's.

Firstly I think you're crazy for tearing off the wrapping to prove it :p

Secondly, I never doubted you guys, I just wanted some reassurance.

Lastly, im sure i speak on behalf of all of us here, thank you for going that extra mile as you always do to keep us crazy vapers happy :D So while I may call you crazy (which is a good crazy btw) for posting those pics, I greatly appreciate it all. Thanks bud.

And on that note, my VTC5's were just delivered from you guys. Perfect timing ;)
 
@Chop007 I see you have gone to great lengths to show us that Vapemob sell legit VTC 5's.

Firstly I think you're crazy for tearing off the wrapping to prove it :p

Secondly, I never doubted you guys, I just wanted some reassurance.

Lastly, im sure i speak on behalf of all of us here, thank you for going that extra mile as you always do to keep us crazy vapers happy :D So while I may call you crazy (which is a good crazy btw) for posting those pics, I greatly appreciate it all. Thanks bud.

And on that note, my VTC5's were just delivered from you guys. Perfect timing ;)
Lol, I took the wrapping of one of the Efest 3100s - just bare metal underneath, so I am none the wiser. With the VTC5 I could a least see that the gap (referred to in the first post) indicates the real article - was not going to take the wrapping off.
 
@Chop007 I see you have gone to great lengths to show us that Vapemob sell legit VTC 5's.

Firstly I think you're crazy for tearing off the wrapping to prove it :p

Secondly, I never doubted you guys, I just wanted some reassurance.

Lastly, im sure i speak on behalf of all of us here, thank you for going that extra mile as you always do to keep us crazy vapers happy :D So while I may call you crazy (which is a good crazy btw) for posting those pics, I greatly appreciate it all. Thanks bud.

And on that note, my VTC5's were just delivered from you guys. Perfect timing ;)
No worries brother, I are crazy as a march hare. We will do whatever it takes to keep you guys informed and push safe products. We also vape so I know what it is like with knowing you are vaping safely. When I started vaping, my very first mech mod, and battery where fake as heck and it was not a nice feeling. So I will always make certain our vapers get the best treatment, regardless.

I know you where completely honest and legit in your question and I do not judge at all. Thank you brother, your awesome.
 
Lol, I took the wrapping of one of the Efest 3100s - just bare metal underneath, so I am none the wiser. With the VTC5 I could a least see that the gap (referred to in the first post) indicates the real article - was not going to take the wrapping off.
Yeah for sure so true. I am investing in some decent testing equipment so we can do proper scientific tests on these batteries. Even though they are perfectly safe for our uses, I would like to make 100% sure of their capability. I have been in contact with Efest and they have assured me that the fake ones(false Rated) where removed about 4 months ago, long before our order.

Nevertheless I reckon it would be good practice to complete a test on samples within the various batches, for my own peace of mind and that of our vapers. I cannot argue with our supplier but I can do my own tests and then argue with him if by any chance those tests do show them to not be what it says on the label. You are 100% correct good sir.
 
Hi @Chop007 I see you disagreeing with me.
Let me set this straight. No one said you where selling fake efests. The problem is efest are selling batteries marked with higher specs than what the cell is suppose to handle.
They buy cells from different manufacturers and wrap them in efest branding, browsing around on ecf and battery review and info sites a few members of the forum and myself have found some shocking info.

The purple efest 30A 2100mah cell is a rewrapped sony vtc4 thats great.

The purple efest 35A 2500mah cell is a rewrapped LG Cell and its specs don't match up to what efest claims.

The purple efest 20A 3100 cell is the worst lie of the lot, even efest are saying 10A continuous discharge now even though the wrapper says 20A and the cell which they source from panasonic is rated at 4A.

Efest is making false claims.
The re wrapped LG batteries, have 'LG' on the battery itself, it was a batch from long before we ordered. The Efest 30A are also not Sony VTC4, as can be seen on numerous tests when taking the wrapping off. Our suppliers have assured us of their authenticity and have pulled the selling of the misrepresented Efests. Anyways, all mellows. I know many had bought the ones that where misrepresented from other vape stores, we however did not sell the unqualified. There is some shocking info and that is why we make certain that we are well informed before passing batteries onto our consumers. But no worries, I will still post real world tests at the 10th charge cycle, 50th charge cycle and 100th charge cycle, so as to ensure good statistical and analytic data. It will be the only way to settle the waves of paranoia that we see daily on the internet.
 
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