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Hi all. Please help me answer some questions I have.

I started vaping on a PIF Twisp Solo for a week. Didn't do much for me, but I wanted to quit the stinkies. Got myself the Twisp Aero and it worked for me. But as a lot of others have said on this forum, I wanted more. Got the KBox Topbox because of the info I found on this forum and I like it.

But now I am stuck.

I only use Twisp Polar Mint 18mg in my Twisp Aero on a 1 ohm coil. I love it. It is perfect.
Then I changed the coil to 0.5ohm and now it is horrible. I mean absolutely horrible. I can't stand the taste. I was astounded that the coil could make such a difference.
In my KBox I vape 3mg nic juice on 0.5ohm clapton coil at 26 watt and it is great.

Here is the problem. I don't get the nic fix I want. I tried 6mg in the KBox but that makes me cough like a teenager with his first pack of chesterfield.
Should I stick with the 6mg until I get used to it, or should I adjust the nic in my juice to 4mg and then maybe 5mg until I find what works for me?
Or maybe I should get a 1 ohm coil for the KBox like in the Aero?
Or maybe I need to change my coil to one of the others I got in the box (0.15 Ni 200, 0.5 SS)
Or maybe I need to change the watts I vape at.....

Eish, I have no idea but I am determined to stay of the stinkies.

Any suggestions would really be appreciated.

Thanks
 
SAVaper said:
Hi all. Please help me answer some questions I have.

I started vaping on a PIF Twisp Solo for a week. Didn't do much for me, but I wanted to quit the stinkies. Got myself the Twisp Aero and it worked for me. But as a lot of others have said on this forum, I wanted more. Got the KBox Topbox because of the info I found on this forum and I like it.

But now I am stuck.

I only use Twisp Polar Mint 18mg in my Twisp Aero on a 1 ohm coil. I love it. It is perfect.
Then I changed the coil to 0.5ohm and now it is horrible. I mean absolutely horrible. I can't stand the taste. I was astounded that the coil could make such a difference.
In my KBox I vape 3mg nic juice on 0.5ohm clapton coil at 26 watt and it is great.

Here is the problem. I don't get the nic fix I want. I tried 6mg in the KBox but that makes me cough like a teenager with his first pack of chesterfield.
Should I stick with the 6mg until I get used to it, or should I adjust the nic in my juice to 4mg and then maybe 5mg until I find what works for me?
Or maybe I should get a 1 ohm coil for the KBox like in the Aero?
Or maybe I need to change my coil to one of the others I got in the box (0.15 Ni 200, 0.5 SS)
Or maybe I need to change the watts I vape at.....

Eish, I have no idea but I am determined to stay of the stinkies.

Any suggestions would really be appreciated.

Thanks
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@SAVaper I felt the same way In the beginning, the first 2 weeks were very tough as I felt I wasn't getting the throat or nicotine hit that I needed.

I decided that I was just going to stick it out with the 3mg juices. So my suggestion is just to dig deep, I know it's hard and carry on with the 3mg. Maybe try more power it could help.
 
DrSirus-88 said:
@SAVaper I felt the same way In the beginning, the first 2 weeks were very tough as I felt I wasn't getting the throat or nicotine hit that I needed.

I decided that I was just going to stick it out with the 3mg juices. So my suggestion is just to dig deep, I know it's hard and carry on with the 3mg. Maybe try more power it could help.
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Thanks a lot. I will keep going. I am determined to make this work even by sheer will power.
 
Hows it going @SAVaper

Your coil ohm are too low for higher nic.
Basically the lower the ohms is the lower your nic level drops but also then you can give your device more power.

If you wanna use a higher nic on the 0.5 try closing your air flow so its only open about 1/4 open this will chuck less vape into your mouth.

Also drop wattage and increase gradually till your prefered vape is reached.
Hope i could help.

Vape on....
 
SAVaper said:
Hi all. Please help me answer some questions I have.

I started vaping on a PIF Twisp Solo for a week. Didn't do much for me, but I wanted to quit the stinkies. Got myself the Twisp Aero and it worked for me. But as a lot of others have said on this forum, I wanted more. Got the KBox Topbox because of the info I found on this forum and I like it.

But now I am stuck.

I only use Twisp Polar Mint 18mg in my Twisp Aero on a 1 ohm coil. I love it. It is perfect.
Then I changed the coil to 0.5ohm and now it is horrible. I mean absolutely horrible. I can't stand the taste. I was astounded that the coil could make such a difference.
In my KBox I vape 3mg nic juice on 0.5ohm clapton coil at 26 watt and it is great.

Here is the problem. I don't get the nic fix I want. I tried 6mg in the KBox but that makes me cough like a teenager with his first pack of chesterfield.
Should I stick with the 6mg until I get used to it, or should I adjust the nic in my juice to 4mg and then maybe 5mg until I find what works for me?
Or maybe I should get a 1 ohm coil for the KBox like in the Aero?
Or maybe I need to change my coil to one of the others I got in the box (0.15 Ni 200, 0.5 SS)
Or maybe I need to change the watts I vape at.....

Eish, I have no idea but I am determined to stay of the stinkies.

Any suggestions would really be appreciated.

Thanks
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If you want a proper nic fix without coughing your lungs out, try some Vape Tricks like blowing rings and bending them etc. Or try cloud chasing as a hobby. Vape tricks make you keep a lot if vapour in your mouth absorbing nic through the membrane under your tongue. So you use more than one delivery system for the nic, lungs and sublingual. Chucking clouds obviously works by inhaling vast amounts of vapour.

You can also run your sub-ohm rig a little hotter and see if that helps

Overall the ticket is to NOT treat it like a cigarette. We all understand it isnt easy. It really is no joke quitting stinkies even while vaping.
 
SAVaper, for me there were two aspects to quitting tobacco:

1) Nicotine addiction.
2) The need to do things with my hands and the oral fixation.

I quit cigs on 3 Jan this year and the nicotine withdrawal was manageable. I gave up everything (no cigs, no vaping) for a whole month so I was over the worst of the nicotine part. What did me in was the oral fixation and not having the smoking routine to keep my hands busy. I sucked lollipops till I almost overdosed on sugar. My teeth started hurting and I realised I was going to have a mouth full of cavities unless I found a solution. So I started vaping and that was great.

Just a suggestion: why don't you vape zero nicotine juice but then satisfy your nicotine craving via a patch? So you're getting the full smoking experience (nicotine intake plus the physical routine of drawing in and blowing out smoke) but via two methods rather than one?
 
Clouds4Days said:
Hows it going @SAVaper

Your coil ohm are too low for higher nic.
Basically the lower the ohms is the lower your nic level drops but also then you can give your device more power.

If you wanna use a higher nic on the 0.5 try closing your air flow so its only open about 1/4 open this will chuck less vape into your mouth.

Also drop wattage and increase gradually till your prefered vape is reached.
Hope i could help.

Vape on....
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Thanks. I wil try lower power with smaller vents.
 
Lord Vetinari said:
If you want a proper nic fix without coughing your lungs out, try some Vape Tricks like blowing rings and bending them etc. Or try cloud chasing as a hobby. Vape tricks make you keep a lot if vapour in your mouth absorbing nic through the membrane under your tongue. So you use more than one delivery system for the nic, lungs and sublingual. Chucking clouds obviously works by inhaling vast amounts of vapour.

You can also run your sub-ohm rig a little hotter and see if that helps

Overall the ticket is to NOT treat it like a cigarette. We all understand it isnt easy. It really is no joke quitting stinkies even while vaping.
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Awesome thanks. Will try more volume / bigger clouds once I find a power level I like
Thanks for the support.
 
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RichJB said:
SAVaper, for me there were two aspects to quitting tobacco:

1) Nicotine addiction.
2) The need to do things with my hands and the oral fixation.

I quit cigs on 3 Jan this year and the nicotine withdrawal was manageable. I gave up everything (no cigs, no vaping) for a whole month so I was over the worst of the nicotine part. What did me in was the oral fixation and not having the smoking routine to keep my hands busy. I sucked lollipops till I almost overdosed on sugar. My teeth started hurting and I realised I was going to have a mouth full of cavities unless I found a solution. So I started vaping and that was great.

Just a suggestion: why don't you vape zero nicotine juice but then satisfy your nicotine craving via a patch? So you're getting the full smoking experience (nicotine intake plus the physical routine of drawing in and blowing out smoke) but via two methods rather than one?
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@RichJB I really like this idea. So simple but could be an effective solution. I truly appreciate. Thanks.
 
I struggled alot with this....needed the throat hit as MTL did not emulate smoking....bought a Joytech AIO device and used it along side my MTL device for 2 weeks....AIO gave me the hit when needed and the MTL gave me the flavour (and clouds).....i recommend this, more so coz the AIO is only R350...with time you will motice yourself leaning more and more to your MTL setup....many people said this to me and did not beliwve em but give it a shot

Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk
 
Hi @SAVaper

Here is my suggestion

Keep that Polar Mint setup that you like on the Twisp - exactly as is. Don't change something that is working for you.

Then try get the Toptank to beat that.
First get a 1 ohm commercial coil and try that at different powers. I would say from 10 watts up to about 16 Watts. Somewhere there in that range. Try use 12mg juice and work down from there. Just remember some juices are harsher than others so try a few.

Then try build a coil on the RBA base. It's easy. 28g Kanthal around a 2mm ID for 7 wraps should yield about 1.3 ohms. I would say about 15 Watts there and 12mg juice should be just fine. Same applies as before. You may need to experiment with different juices to find one that works best for you.

Don't give up. I promise you will find a vape that you like.

Are you doing mouth to lung or direct lung hits?
 
Muchis said:
I struggled alot with this....needed the throat hit as MTL did not emulate smoking....bought a Joytech AIO device and used it along side my MTL device for 2 weeks....AIO gave me the hit when needed and the MTL gave me the flavour (and clouds).....i recommend this, more so coz the AIO is only R350...with time you will motice yourself leaning more and more to your MTL setup....many people said this to me and did not beliwve em but give it a shot

Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk
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Thanks. I will keep this in mind.
 
Silver said:
Hi @SAVaper

Here is my suggestion

Keep that Polar Mint setup that you like on the Twisp - exactly as is. Don't change something that is working for you.

Then try get the Toptank to beat that.
First get a 1 ohm commercial coil and try that at different powers. I would say from 10 watts up to about 16 Watts. Somewhere there in that range. Try use 12mg juice and work down from there. Just remember some juices are harsher than others so try a few.

Then try build a coil on the RBA base. It's easy. 28g Kanthal around a 2mm ID for 7 wraps should yield about 1.3 ohms. I would say about 15 Watts there and 12mg juice should be just fine. Same applies as before. You may need to experiment with different juices to find one that works best for you.

Don't give up. I promise you will find a vape that you like.

Are you doing mouth to lung or direct lung hits?
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Hi @Silver

Thanks for the advice. I plan to keep using the Twisp Aero on the 1 ohm coil.

This is what I did so far:
First I build a dual coil with 26G Kanthal on my Derringer RDA. 3mm diam came to 7 wraps for 0.5ohm. Tested with 6mg Strawberry and Cream. Still coughing.
Then I took one coil out which automatically made the RDA 1.0ohm. Tried the 6mg Strawberry and Cream and still coughing.
Then I build a 1.0ohm coil on the RBA of the KBox. Tried the 6mg S&C and still coughing.

Then I took 3mg DDD and added nic to make it 4mg. Tried it on the 1.0ohm Derringer and no problem. I am now changing the 3mg DDD to 5mg to test that. If that works, I will try a 6mg DDD and see.

Maybe all the coughing is caused by something else.

Maybe a 3mg will be fine for me. All that might be needed is for me to do the mental transition to a non-smoker/new vaper.

Thanks a gain to everyone. You are all great support!
 
I was a HEAVY smoker for years, when I was just starting out I used a Nautilus tank with 18mg juice. Then subtanks started coming out and I tried the Kanger subtank...big improvement, only needed 2 or 3 hits. At a vape shop the dude was horrified I was using 18mg in it and talked me into 6mg juice, that I didn't need more than that with a subtank. Thinking back, he was a really young dude and had probably only smoked lights for a year or two before he went to vaping....lol...didn't look more than 20. Well, I tried it and I was tooting on that damned thing non-stop and still didn't feel satisfied. So I had to run at 16mg in a subtank for awhile, and gradually, I ended up where I am now, about 6mg in a dripper and 8 or 9mg in a tank. You'll find your level. Least we have all these great juices now. In the early days it was mostly chinese juice like dekang and hangsen in cartos and they were high pg juices too (actually some of them were pretty good, like that hangsen juicy peach). I still see those rotten no-named chinese juices sold at gas stations here...I'd have to be really seriously desperate to try those now...lol
 
SAVaper said:
Hi @Silver

Thanks for the advice. I plan to keep using the Twisp Aero on the 1 ohm coil.

This is what I did so far:
First I build a dual coil with 26G Kanthal on my Derringer RDA. 3mm diam came to 7 wraps for 0.5ohm. Tested with 6mg Strawberry and Cream. Still coughing.
Then I took one coil out which automatically made the RDA 1.0ohm. Tried the 6mg Strawberry and Cream and still coughing.
Then I build a 1.0ohm coil on the RBA of the KBox. Tried the 6mg S&C and still coughing.

Then I took 3mg DDD and added nic to make it 4mg. Tried it on the 1.0ohm Derringer and no problem. I am now changing the 3mg DDD to 5mg to test that. If that works, I will try a 6mg DDD and see.

Maybe all the coughing is caused by something else.

Maybe a 3mg will be fine for me. All that might be needed is for me to do the mental transition to a non-smoker/new vaper.

Thanks a gain to everyone. You are all great support!
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Great to hear @SAVaper
Tell me what juice is that Stawberry and Cream 6mg that makes you cough? Where did you get it?
Might just be something in that juice or a particular flavour that doesnt agree with you
I have found the same - a few juices have a tendency to irritate my throat
 
Silver said:
Great to hear @SAVaper
Tell me what juice is that Stawberry and Cream 6mg that makes you cough? Where did you get it?
Might just be something in that juice or a particular flavour that doesnt agree with you
I have found the same - a few juices have a tendency to irritate my throat
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It is the 6mg Strawberry and Cream from Vape King.

Because I used to smoke Menthol, I tried the Vape King Menthol Ice 6mg as well as the VooDoo Sub Zero 6mg. But both of these made me cough. I assumed it was the strong menthol flavour, and that is why I bought the S+C 6mg.

Must say I have not been able to find a nice menthol. Actually I am thinking I should look more towards mint because the menthol I have tried is more like a strong airwaves chappie than a menthol sigarette.

I do find that I cough more in the evening.
 
SAVaper said:
It is the 6mg Strawberry and Cream from Vape King.

Because I used to smoke Menthol, I tried the Vape King Menthol Ice 6mg as well as the VooDoo Sub Zero 6mg. But both of these made me cough. I assumed it was the strong menthol flavour, and that is why I bought the S+C 6mg.

Must say I have not been able to find a nice menthol. Actually I am thinking I should look more towards mint because the menthol I have tried is more like a strong airwaves chappie than a menthol sigarette.

I do find that I cough more in the evening.
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Try getting menthol in 3mg. Cause now you getting a heavy kick of menthol and nicotine.
 
The coughing could be your system adjusting to vaping
For some it takes longer to adjust

On menthol, give Vapour Mountain a try, they have
Menthol Ice - which is very strong menthol
Tropical Ice - which adds a bit of coconut
XXX - which is less menthol and a lovely fruity one with a litchi taste

If you want a menthol tobacco, try find a good tobacco and add some menthol concentrate. Good starting points for tobaccoes could be AshyBac from Mikes Mega Mixes and Pure tobacco from Vape Elixir - stocked by VK

For menthol concentrate I have been using the one sold by Vapour Mountain - to good effect

The juice journey is a long one and can be tough. Hang in there @SAVaper, you are doing well.
 
Silver said:
The coughing could be your system adjusting to vaping
For some it takes longer to adjust

On menthol, give Vapour Mountain a try, they have
Menthol Ice - which is very strong menthol
Tropical Ice - which adds a bit of coconut
XXX - which is less menthol and a lovely fruity one with a litchi taste

If you want a menthol tobacco, try find a good tobacco and add some menthol concentrate. Good starting points for tobaccoes could be AshyBac from Mikes Mega Mixes and Pure tobacco from Vape Elixir - stocked by VK

For menthol concentrate I have been using the one sold by Vapour Mountain - to good effect

The juice journey is a long one and can be tough. Hang in there @SAVaper, you are doing well.
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Thank you very much for all the encouragement. I will order the XXX in 3mg and see how that goes. I have a spearmint concentrate. Maybe I will ask for a nice minty recipe with the spearmint.
 
SAVaper said:
Thank you very much for all the encouragement. I will order the XXX in 3mg and see how that goes. I have a spearmint concentrate. Maybe I will ask for a nice minty recipe with the spearmint.
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Go for it
I am sure the guys in the DIY threads will be able to help out
Let us know how the XXX goes
 
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