Point to Pod_er with Mr Deedz
Ya, I use the PG version. Easier for me to decant and work with. I guess slightly more TH, but you only adding a little, so I doubt the PG makes a huge difference.
Will answer your question on drops below
@Silver
Will remember this, awesome tip, but read the warnings. Seems you need gloves, protective clothing, mask, uranium meter, I mean nicotine meter, everytime you mix this stuff, and me with my 2ml tanks will do it twice a day. Really always wanted to go to Chernobyl, but having it in my study twice a day.....need to think
Interesting fact I recently discovered, I grew up in Memel in the Eastern Free State and we have a local jam there, called "nastregal". A jam made from a nightshade plant that grows there in the mountains, and hated by many farmers as when it is green, and farm animals eat them could lead to death. Secret is to wait till the berry turns to purple/ almost black....then ready to make jam. Same as old tobacco plant (also from the nightshade specie) where our nicotine comes from.
Will remember this, awesome tip, but read the warnings. Seems you need gloves, protective clothing, mask, uranium meter, I mean nicotine meter, everytime you mix this stuff, and me with my 2ml tanks will do it twice a day. Really always wanted to go to Chernobyl, but having it in my study twice a day.....need to think
Interesting fact I recently discovered, I grew up in Memel in the Eastern Free State and we have a local jam there, called "nastregal". A jam made from a nightshade plant that grows there in the mountains, and hated by many farmers as when it is green, and farm animals eat them could lead to death. Secret is to wait till the berry turns to purple/ almost black....then ready to make jam. Same as old tobacco plant (also from the nightshade specie) where our nicotine comes from.
Let's say you have your 2ml tank and you want to add 48mg nic to enhance the nic strength.
Its quite easy. You can do it a few ways. But let me first try with drops.
I have measured on my scale. Most of my plastic dripper bottles are about 40 drops per ml.
So lets say you put in 10 drops of 48mg. That would be about a quarter of a ml. So 0.25ml
So lets say you have a 9mg juice that you want to nic up.
And you put 10 drops of the nic in (0.25ml)
Then you fill the rest with the 9mg juice (1.75ml)
Then just work out the proportion of the 2ml that each ingredient is
Nic - 0.25ml/2ml = 0.125
juice - 1.75ml/2ml = 0.875
Now multiply those proportions by the nic strengths
0.125 x 48mg = 6mg
0.875 x 9mg = 7.88mg - call it 8mg
Add them up and your final juice strength will be 14mg.
So now you know that if you dont add nic, your juice is 9mg and if you add 10 drops its about 14mg.
So if you add say 5 drops it will be about halfway - so around 11.5mg
If half your tank was the 9mg juice and half was the 48mg - you would be midway between the two - so about 28.5mg. Three quarters of 9mg juice and one quarter of 48mg nic would be about 18.75mg.
I dont do the calculations all the time - just the first time to get a reference point - then I use the same bottle and count the drops and adjust it to taste, up or down. I stick to using the same bottle because each nozzle type can be a bit different.
Hope that helps
Its quite easy. You can do it a few ways. But let me first try with drops.
I have measured on my scale. Most of my plastic dripper bottles are about 40 drops per ml.
So lets say you put in 10 drops of 48mg. That would be about a quarter of a ml. So 0.25ml
So lets say you have a 9mg juice that you want to nic up.
And you put 10 drops of the nic in (0.25ml)
Then you fill the rest with the 9mg juice (1.75ml)
Then just work out the proportion of the 2ml that each ingredient is
Nic - 0.25ml/2ml = 0.125
juice - 1.75ml/2ml = 0.875
Now multiply those proportions by the nic strengths
0.125 x 48mg = 6mg
0.875 x 9mg = 7.88mg - call it 8mg
Add them up and your final juice strength will be 14mg.
So now you know that if you dont add nic, your juice is 9mg and if you add 10 drops its about 14mg.
So if you add say 5 drops it will be about halfway - so around 11.5mg
If half your tank was the 9mg juice and half was the 48mg - you would be midway between the two - so about 28.5mg. Three quarters of 9mg juice and one quarter of 48mg nic would be about 18.75mg.
I dont do the calculations all the time - just the first time to get a reference point - then I use the same bottle and count the drops and adjust it to taste, up or down. I stick to using the same bottle because each nozzle type can be a bit different.
Hope that helps
Thanks bud. Long time no chat. Been vaping over 3 years now and I still don't know the diff between mtl dl or loose. Lmao. I just dripped my brain away mostly. Crazy flavors hot type of vapes on around 90 to 100 watts before
I actually figured out how to change the wattage on the renova. Found my sweet spot. The 2nd level I prefer. Tighter draw. Less vapour more throat hit. Weird but true
Last question for tonight guys. Any advice on how to prolong the life of batteries on pod devices Which is the best from these 3 options :
1) charging using a cellphone charger adapter
2) via the USB port of a laptop
3) powerbank
1) charging using a cellphone charger adapter
2) via the USB port of a laptop
3) powerbank
Pleasure
The more you add though, the more the flavour is diluted. For some juices a 6mg to 12mg jump will work without a problem. For others it may not come out nice.
Always follow preferred manufacturers method. Most have a 1Amp charge setting and a mini usb, so normally pc charged. But saying that I have a trusty 1amp istick charger with a cellphone type adapter which works like a charm.
I would suggest passthrough or whatever the term when you vape and charge you do use the pc and usb route, but hell those cords so short looks like you are french kissing bloory laptop
Added the VLaddin & UWELL to the voting poles for those who contributed, I would love for these poles to have a true reflection of preference and hoping to keep this thread going for a month or until I have 3 or more Pod devices and do some comparisons on Yay's Vs Nay's.
@Silver & @Smokey_Robinson , I have learnt by now that when i ask a simple Q their aint no simple answer.
This image shows how I feel when reading your responses hehehehehe
This image shows how I feel when reading your responses hehehehehe
But this doesnt answer me Q brother hehehe
, i had to dissect this and still cant see if i got your answer. Which type of juice will give better flavour in my Renova Zero, Nic Salts or Free Base High nic juices? Just so i know what to purchase next, dankie baie
But this doesnt answer me Q brother hehehe
Nic salts will give you the quickest fix, and is much smoother than freebase thus less TH, and most people going of stinkies prefer this. You need higher level of salts to give same TH then freebase. Nic salt is the refined KWV 10 year, and freebase is the Richelieu. You need to drink 5glasses of kwv to get same overhang as 2-3 glasses of richies.
So 20mg nic salts not satisfying? Then you have two options: (read somewhere you had tried 20mg previously?)
Go to 25-35mg salts, but TH would still be lower then you expect, and your vaping time is less for same satisfaction.
Go to 12-18mg freebase and get the TH you want, but you will vape longer to get same satisfaction. You currently not happy with 9mg freebase. Not sure if 3mg increase will make big difference.
Question is, you want a seriously quick fix and minimal TH, or little longer vape with more TH.
You want the pod to stop you going back, then higher nicsalts.....but if you are already established relying on stinkies are gone, and you want taste enjoy vaping and want TH then go freebase. None of the salts I have vaped came close to taste or TH of freebase.
I would go 15 or 18mg freebase....50/50 or 60/40 ratio.
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Day 6 : Still going strong on only 1 Pod device and using the same pod, Thus far I can only say that flavor has dropped since day 4. Looking forward to using NIC SALTS instead as well. That Lost VAPE ORION is really looking interesting for me next buy. I hope its small & compact though.
I bought 12mg Freebase nic. TKO Blue Milk from @Vapers Corner , popped it in the Renova Zero aaaaaand the wife hijacked it. I don't think I'm getting it back. 
My opinion. Some of these pods like Orion(even Aspire breeze) defeats the object. The are s big, you can just aswell buy a normal small mod with atty and get better battery life and flavour
Is there any decent creaminess from the TKO honestly? Or mostly just wick wacks bubblegum flavor in the Renova?I bought 12mg Freebase nic. TKO Blue Milk from @Vapers Corner , popped it in the Renova Zero aaaaaand the wife hijacked it. I don't think I'm getting it back.
It actually is great! I hate all things "ice" and I'm happy to report it has almost as much flavour as 3mg in my Luxotic/WASP Nano setup. Money well spent.
Hit the Nail on the head, thanks!
I think a good question to ask yourself is: do you want 'just' MTL setup or a "stealth" (ie Small) setup?
Because this is a MTL setup I'm running today, but it's nowhere near stealth/small
stealth bro, i sold the last gear i had coz im g@@tvol of carrying mods & charging batteries and packing batts & juices everyday. everything sold including 4bay charger so want something that doesnt need an 18650 to be charged. smaller batt
Aahhhh my favourite tank. Nautilus mini? Have you tried the metal sleeve? Looks nicer for me and added protection. What mod below?
