Question has been asked before but I need beginner advice

[CHINCB]

Hello all,


In the past I have used an electronic cigarette this utilised cartridges but I was not happy with it, I went back to normal cigarettes quite quickly. I am looking for something to replace my smoking habit and although I have some technical knowledge I have zero interest in getting into vaping as a hobby, I am just looking for a somewhat healthier nicotine delivery method… So on to the question:


What is a good kit to purchase, it should be able to be used as a daily driver and permanent replacement for smoking. I was considering to get a twisp due to the brand visibility but honestly I got so lost in all of the information available I decided screw it better ask people who know more about the subject.

 

[Soutie]

The shorter the chimney the better the flavor, its the reason you get better flavor from an RDTA than you do from an RTA. I've actually tried the two tanks side by side and there is a noticeable difference in the flavor.

other than that I think the pico looks better with the 2ml tank regardless.

 

[Rob Fisher]

@CHINCB I would go for the 4ml. 2ml is simply too little juice for me. I wouldn't like to refill the tank 3 times a day as I currently vape between 1.5 and 2 tanks per day. Too be honest, the flavour I'm getting out of my 4ml tank as absolutely great. The construction of the too tanks are identical apart from the one holding more juice (with a taller chimney). I don't see how the 2ml would have better flavour than the 4ml. @Rob Fisher ??? It will depend on how much you're planning to vape.

It boggles me too @Clouder... they appear identical in every way other than one being taller than the other... but the fact of the matter is the 4ml tank suffers from the dreaded airlock is while the 2ml doesn't.

 

[Clouder]

@Rob Fisher interesting...

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[zadiac]

Hello all,


In the past I have used an electronic cigarette this utilised cartridges but I was not happy with it, I went back to normal cigarettes quite quickly. I am looking for something to replace my smoking habit and although I have some technical knowledge I have zero interest in getting into vaping as a hobby, I am just looking for a somewhat healthier nicotine delivery method… So on to the question:


What is a good kit to purchase, it should be able to be used as a daily driver and permanent replacement for smoking. I was considering to get a twisp due to the brand visibility but honestly I got so lost in all of the information available I decided screw it better ask people who know more about the subject.

http://www.vapeclub.co.za/collections/starter-kits-and-combos

 

[ddk1979]

Just beware when purchasing from Vape Shop.
For example, they advertise the Pico kit for R999, but read the fine print:

eLeaf Istick Pico Melo 3 Kit
Availability: In Stock
R999.00
Ex Tax:

I've enlarged the font and made it bold so that you don't miss the "Ex Tax" which is small and feint on the website.
So it's actually going to cost you R1138.86

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[CHINCB]

Just beware when purchasing from Vape Shop.
For example, they advertise the Pico kit for R999, but read the fine print:

eLeaf Istick Pico Melo 3 Kit
Availability: In Stock
R999.00
Ex Tax:

I've enlarged the font and made it bold so that you don't miss the "Ex Tax" which is small and feint on the website.
So it's actually going to cost you R1138.86

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Wow I completely missed that. The best price I got was from vapecartel. R850. so I will be popping in on Saturday to get one

 

[ddk1979]

Wow I completely missed that. The best price I got was from vapecartel. R850. so I will be popping in on Saturday to get one

Great, the pico with the 2ml melo 3 mini tank is highly recommended by many people on this forum.
Just note, that the melo 3 mini is not really a mouth-to-lung (MTL) device, although you can do a loose MTL draw.

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[CHINCB]

Great, the pico with the 2ml melo 3 mini tank is highly recommended by many people on this forum.
Just note, that the melo 3 mini is not really a mouth-to-lung (MTL) device, although you can do a loose MTL draw.

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Sorry for my ignorance but what is the impact of mouth to lung? I mean mtl is how I smoke my cigarettes so will dtl matter that much ?

 

[moolies86]

So mod (splash out on the all black coz it looks hot)...

http://www.vapecartel.co.za/collect...ducts/pico-75w-tc-limited-edition-starter-kit

Battery, I would recommend the LG HG2 as it lasts longer...

http://www.vapecartel.co.za/collections/18650-batteries/products/lg-hg2-18650-3000mah

Coils...

http://www.vapecartel.co.za/collect...ries/products/c-cell-replacement-coils-5-pack

Your battery should last most of the day to start off with. Ideally you will want to get two, and an external charger like this one...

http://www.vapecartel.co.za/collections/chargers/products/nitecore-i2-charger

so that you're never left without a vape. The second you run out of batts you will be scratching for a cig.

With regards to juice, the best thing to do is to go into a brick and mortar store and try some of their juices. Taste is so subjective, so for example, I would kill puppies to get my XXX from Vapour Mountain fix, other people think I'm mad. But if you hate people like me and want to steer clear of going into a shop, and want to stick with only ordering from one vendor then maybe consider...

http://www.vapecartel.co.za/collections/hazeworks/products/scream-30ml
http://www.vapecartel.co.za/collections/mr-hardwicks/products/mr-hardwicks-debbie-does-donuts-32ml
http://www.vapecartel.co.za/collections/northern-craft-vapes/products/frozen-2x-30ml
http://www.vapecartel.co.za/collections/paulies-e-liquid/products/paulies-coffee-cake-50ml

@CHINCB that's pretty much the best advice your going to get,do try the xxx from Vapour Mountain,if you all ready smoke menthol,I believe your going to be blown away by the flavour of xxx,to date it's also the most satisfying vape I've had

 

[ddk1979]

Sorry for my ignorance but what is the impact of mouth to lung? I mean mtl is how I smoke my cigarettes so will dtl matter that much ?

Now I know from your previous posts that you like concise answers, but this isn't going to be one of those.

I'm mainly doing MTL even after more than 6 months of vaping. I have been trying DL hits and, FOR ME, it takes a bit of getting use to.
Now when I do MTL, I use mainly 12 or 18mg nicotine juices, but there is just no way I can do DL with juice that has such a high nicotine content ... I cough my lungs out, but that's just me. Fortunately I've got some 6mg nicotine juices that I have now been practising with and it is much easier for me to DL with it.

Bottom line, the general rule (and there are always exceptions to the rule), is that you usually vape higher nicotine juices when doing MTL (especially if you have just stopped smoking) to get the same kind of satisfaction.
So the nicotine content of your juice is going to depend largely on how you vape (MTL or DL).

@Silver and @Andre to the rescue please.


EDIT: Just saw now that this is my 400th post and was feeling pretty shuffed , until I saw that @Silver has 20458 posts - WOW, when do you sleep..

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[moolies86]

Sorry for my ignorance but what is the impact of mouth to lung? I mean mtl is how I smoke my cigarettes so will dtl matter that much ?

In my case I pretty much preferred dtl from the start,others prefer recommending mouth to lung to beginners because the draw is similar to a cigarette,I don't think it will matter that much tho,the airflow is adjustable on the melo 3 so you can close it down if it's to much

 

[moolies86]

@CHINCB I had the joyetech aio when I first started because it was so cheap and didn't hurt paying the R350 for a device,it turned out to be a mtl device,but after a week and a half I upgraded to the pico anyway,and I'm glad I did,I went from 6mg to 3 mg very quickly,I buy 0 mg juice and mix it with the 3 mg to get 1.5 mg,so if your goal is to get off of everything completely then the pico should suffice,if I didn't turn vaping into a hobby I would have been able to leave everything within the first 2 months

 

[Soutie]

@ddk1979 you are 100 percent right. You generally need a higher nic content for MTL .Trying to DTL 18mg juice will put hair on your chest though.

MTL is smoking a cigarette where DTL is like puffing away on a Hubble bubbly. I made the transition pretty quickly to DTL when I started vaping.
The melo mni is a really nice inbetweener, the MTL is quite loose if you close the airflow down but very doable and the lung hits are restrictive even with the air full tap open. You get used to it really quickly

 

[johan]

MTL vs DTL hits are a very personal thing. When I started 2+ years ago with 36mg (or 3.6%), I only resorted to a couple of DTL hits after a long flight (still no hair on me chest). Today I'm at a happy place with exclusive MTL hits, utilizing 6mg (or 0.6%) and don't need to do any DTL hits, even after 13 hrs of non vaping. In short; try them both and stick to whatever you find comfortable,