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Thanks Johan. Actually for my ignorance they do look more or less the same size in real life, but I presume the inner diameter is the determining factor being 9.5 mm in the case of the cap ring (from ECF site converted from 3/8" to mm) as opposed to 10 mm on the other rings. The outer diameter of the cap ring is 12.7 mm (from 1/2") and those of the other rings are 12mm.
Rob if I'm not mistaken, the centre pin on the Cyclone can be adjusted. If I'm correct, just unscrew the centre pin on the Cyclone a wee bit and try again.
Thanks Johan. Actually for my ignorance it does look more or less the same size, but I presume the inner diameter is the determining factor being 9.5 mm in the case of the cap ring (from ECF site converted from 3/8" to mm) as opposed to 10 mm on the other rings. The outer diameter of the cap ring is 12.7 mm (from 1/2") and those of the other rings are 12mm.
Yip, that is what I gathered from Reosmods on ECF, the cap ring is imperial size, but the others are metric. Wish the Americans would now switch to metric.Agree Andre, however measured with vernier, the cap O-ring is definitely an imperial size (my measurement was closer to 9 than 9.5mm), but the other 10mm ones are exact metric sizes (ID X Thickness).
To add to @Rob Fisher's comments:Guys, I have some questions re: subohming and ribbon wire.
1. What is the difference between say 1ohm and something like .6?
2. What are the advantages of sub ohming?
3. If I decide to give the ribbon wire a go. Do I need ekowool? Reason I'm asking is, I saw rip did a build with cotton.
Thanks peeps
Oh, that is another game, which I have no experience of. Low ohms and huge air holes are required. The higher the VG the denser the clouds. Direct lung hits are compulsory.Many thanks @Andre and @Rob Fisher, helpful, quick to respond and informative as always
I need to order to more wire so i can mess around with different builds. I want to see the difference between the different guage and type of wires. I want dense clouds
@johan, after seeing the comparison, I see I am using the 1mm ring on mine, and it works for me.
How does that work? Sounds interesting but not sure I could manage dual right now ..Just to add my experience here, the new Atomic I've been using for all of today with dual coils is fantastic. At .45 ohms, and using 28g wire - the flavours coming out of my juices are awesome. Having the AFC (Air Flow Control) option allows one to cool off the throat hit when needed. I'm very impressed with this atomizer. And one of the best things is not having to sqounk as often, as in hardly ever.
How does that work? Sounds interesting but not sure I could manage dual right now ..
You could probably manage it quite well, thinking of your repair kit competence, but I would first get some time, experience and experimenting with the Reomizer.How does that work? Sounds interesting but not sure I could manage dual right now ..
Shoo that is higher grade! Why less squonking? Surely it sucks even more juice?
Many thanks @Andre and @Rob Fisher, helpful, quick to respond and informative as always
I need to order to more wire so i can mess around with different builds. I want to see the difference between the different guage and type of wires. I want dense clouds
Just to add @Yiannaki
The difference between a 1 ohm and a 0.6 ohm is also the power you will get.
A 1 ohm will roughly get you 16 Watts of power (4 squared over 1) on a 4V batt. (ignoring volt drop)
The 0.6 ohmer will get you about 27 Watts. That is nearly double the power! Because its nearly half the resistance. (P=V*V/R)
But a lot has to do with the way you achieve the 0.6 ohms.
Assume you did a simple microcoil with say 28g Kanthal around say 1.5mm ID, you would use about 7 wraps to get 1 ohm.
Incidentally, that's about my sweet spot for all day vaping. Decent power, good number of wraps to get enough vaporisation etc.
If I want 0.9 ohms, I do 6 wraps
But when I do fewer than 6 wraps on the microcoil, I find it doesn't work too well. I think its because the power is too high and there are not enough wraps.
Thats why I think peeps use the thicker wire, ribbon wire, dual coils and twisted coils.
I am still going through the coil journey myself. Still very early days for me
I must add that it's been about just over two weeks now. I'm loving every minute of it!Just to add @Yiannaki
The difference between a 1 ohm and a 0.6 ohm is also the power you will get.
A 1 ohm will roughly get you 16 Watts of power (4 squared over 1) on a 4V batt. (ignoring volt drop)
The 0.6 ohmer will get you about 27 Watts. That is nearly double the power! Because its nearly half the resistance. (P=V*V/R)
But a lot has to do with the way you achieve the 0.6 ohms.
Assume you did a simple microcoil with say 28g Kanthal around say 1.5mm ID, you would use about 7 wraps to get 1 ohm.
Incidentally, that's about my sweet spot for all day vaping. Decent power, good number of wraps to get enough vaporisation etc.
If I want 0.9 ohms, I do 6 wraps
But when I do fewer than 6 wraps on the microcoil, I find it doesn't work too well. I think its because the power is too high and there are not enough wraps.
Thats why I think peeps use the thicker wire, ribbon wire, dual coils and twisted coils.
I am still going through the coil journey myself. Still very early days for me
I must add that it's been about just over two weeks now. I'm loving every minute of it!
I'm still unsure of what my perfect setup is and I chop and change coils every second day or so just to try something different. so hence all my questions the whole time
Got the ultimate device (at least in my eyes) I'm just looking for that coil setup that just feels "right".
Pleasure @Yiannaki
The mistake I made once was try a whole bunch of coil types over a few days. (different gauges, twisted, different IDs)
Didn't like any of them and was so confused.
Then I decided to just focus on one thing and try get it right.
I focused on the simple "microcoil" type of coil, like the one you did.
Its taken me a while, many coils - but I do have the luxury of multiple devices.
My happy place at the moment is as follows:
1.5mm ID, 28g Kanthal, cotton
- 0.9 ohms for tobacco juices (6 wraps)
- 1.1 to 1.3 ohms for other juices (7 to 9 wraps)
I am now ready to start venturing into the Ribbon wire/Ekowool domain.
Not saying you mustn't try new things, just that I think it helps to optimise your current setup and know it well.
Then when you try something else, you will notice even the slightest change.