Royal Mac e liquid - vapecon car park
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@Stroodlepuff I'm really sorry I couldn't make it.
Nope, half the time they are the ones who put them on the cars, I know this as I paid quite a few car guards to flyer cars with VapeCon flyers
would have been awesome to meet you bud. I will do a full breakdown of the event a little bit later, once all the sleep is out my eyes and I have had a massage and maybe 10 more hours of sleep
Ok, some shenanigans going on elsewhere then. Don't think too badly of Roy he is not exactly a youngster and tried a more .. err .. traditional approach. Use to be common practise until most malls banned the practise (or started charging for it?)
I still get lots of these from the guys in the flashy light cars. I think they advertise donations to the government or some such ..
here we have converted combi's with PA systems on the roof its pretty wild.
Live action stuff too.
This one time, a guy and his wife were beating the crap out of each other, basically the wife wanted to leave the guy with his child, so eventually he picks the kid up (4-5 years old) and threatens to throw the kid on the ground. Needless to say it took a lot of convincing for the 40-50 guys who came running to beat the man up. That it was in fact a promo for his upcoming movie about a broken home. Risky, but very effective
Just for reference mob justice is very real here. It's pretty common for a pick-pocket to get beaten to death in town. The cops let it slide, because in the few instances where they try to intervene they too get beaten.
So the guy was playing with fire.
its pretty wild.Live action stuff too.
This one time, a guy and his wife were beating the crap out of each other, basically the wife wanted to leave the guy with his child, so eventually he picks the kid up (4-5 years old) and threatens to throw the kid on the ground. Needless to say it took a lot of convincing for the 40-50 guys who came running to beat the man up. That it was in fact a promo for his upcoming movie about a broken home. Risky, but very effective
Just for reference mob justice is very real here. It's pretty common for a pick-pocket to get beaten to death in town. The cops let it slide, because in the few instances where they try to intervene they too get beaten.
So the guy was playing with fire.
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So this guy had permission to put his flyers on cars? If so then I guess it's ok, but I still wouldn't buy his juice. Those flyers don't exactly scream quality
Nope, no permission. But these kinds of things are very hard to prevent
ye, if its a case of paying the guards to put them on, then really theres no defence against it.
It's a public parking lot, why do u need permission. If some one sells pens outside home affairs that's entrepreneurship. This guy took some initiative. I don't see the issue.
That being said it troubles me that New juice vendor's can pop-up and there is no one to regulate, test, certify that a juice is safe. Do we have an association in S.A. that will look into legal matters, protect the Vapers rights? This might be off on a tangent from the O.P
That being said it troubles me that New juice vendor's can pop-up and there is no one to regulate, test, certify that a juice is safe. Do we have an association in S.A. that will look into legal matters, protect the Vapers rights? This might be off on a tangent from the O.P
There was talk of a few vendors starting a self regulating body. I'm sure some google-fu will find it for you. But all in all we not silly people and tend to regulate the industry with our wallets.
Their isn't an association,
Chemical compositions aren't put on bottles. Premium doesn't mean its safe.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...actory-lung-condition-e-cigarette-liquid.html
Interestingly the latest scientific research concluded that the original finding that the condition was cause by Diacetyl used in the popcorn factory concerned, was not correct. It was more probably caused by cigarette smoking.
But yes, I for one, try only to buy from reputable vendors.
i understand not listing the ingredients in full on the labelling for cost purposes (I print labels). but maybe having a detailed breakdown on their website would be a workable solution?
The story of the ingredients being a trade secret is hogwash. if Coke can do it, so can an e-liquid maker.
The story of the ingredients being a trade secret is hogwash. if Coke can do it, so can an e-liquid maker.
Be that as it may, the risk in this case was a false alarm.
If there was a ngo (or some kind of body) that was setup which had then had a list of supporting vendors who maybe charged 1% extra and then donated that 1% to this ngo. The benefit to the consumer is they know they are funding healthier vaping and the vendor is helping the consumer.
The ngo would then do research and certify juices based on a set of standards agreed upon yearly. These standards will disallow known potentially harmful chemicals or kept below the min safe standard. Marking known Allergens etc.
The could also then have the reserves to fight potential anti-vaping legislation or remove barriers to entry into the vaping market. Unacceptable import tariffs, Chemical licencing, whatever issue vendors and consumers as a whole need addressed.
The South African vaping community will need this at some point, I'm just not sure that we have reached the capacity to do this yet.
I'm more concerned about the flavour & smoothness of the joose. In my nearly 5 years joose has gotten better & better with the flavours getting more real. In my journey thus far I vape what tastes good and doesn't make me cough. Another thing I know for certain my lungs are happier for it.
Regulation is a slippery slope. Right now, as some have said, I think that self-regulation is a much better and safer (for our industry, if not for our health) way to go.
The components that go into making a juice is generally safe (and tested), and 99% of people use the same basic building blocks. There are exceptions, but these people get caught out and shamed very quickly.
We are fortunate that vapers are from all walks of life - and some are scientists who will test things because they can and have a natural curiosity
The components that go into making a juice is generally safe (and tested), and 99% of people use the same basic building blocks. There are exceptions, but these people get caught out and shamed very quickly.
We are fortunate that vapers are from all walks of life - and some are scientists who will test things because they can and have a natural curiosity
Regulation is a slippery slope. Right now, as some have said, I think that self-regulation is a much better and safer (for our industry, if not for our health) way to go.
The components that go into making a juice is generally safe (and tested), and 99% of people use the same basic building blocks. There are exceptions, but these people get caught out and shamed very quickly.
We are fortunate that vapers are from all walks of life - and some are scientists who will test things because they can and have a natural curiosity
I wasnt thinking of it as a regulation. More along the lines of a kosher, halaal, vegitarian etc certification that you get on food.
So your welcome as a vendor to not put it on your juice.
Maybe the industry is too small over here but that the kind of thing I'd like to see.
I've had a bad reaction to three premium juices, everyone claims I have a PG allergy but I vape plenty of other juices with no issue. So fine i'm the exception and I make sure I stay away from what I think is the ingredients that cause my issue. So what the industry waits until you have your first couple of major incidents and then the govt starts regulating and jumping in?
Certification would probably be a good idea, but again you run that risk of it getting out of hand due to money being involved - someone has to pay for the testing and someone has to carry the liability.
Allergens are a concern though, I totally agree. But so far it seems that the allergic reactions have been fairly mild - and you can always just avoid whatever does not agree with you.
Safest way would be to just do DIY I suppose - that way you know what goes into your juice
wrong place, but what's this whatsapp group about? Is it only for the vape Illuminati?
If so, there are only a few things and sacrifices I am willing to make to join.
If so, there are only a few things and sacrifices I am willing to make to join.
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