Mixed some milk and honey at 4% and it's real good. Thanks for the recommendation!
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Mixed some milk and honey at 4% and it's real good. Thanks for the recommendation!
So thats a handful of flavours, and damn fine vaping for you
But you must get things like Sweet Cream, Bavarian Cream and Marshmallow (I recommend FA)
0.5 - 0.75% will make most those juices better.
0.5-2% Bavarian Cream makes fruits smoother, more complex. The same with Sweet Cream.
Don't use too much creams or it will mute other flavours.
Most importantly - DONT MESS WITH MUSTARD MILK. ITS PERFECTION. Simple but perfect
You were right about the Mustard Milk, it's perfect! I decided to wait for TFA Vanilla bean ice cream and it was worth the wait.
I've also decided to invest in some more concentrates and it's really been worth it.
Thanks so much for all your help!
Im glad you like it
I still make it monthly
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I've been struggling with DIY and I've been wanting to go back to stand alone flavours. Are there any other flavour concentrates out there that work well alone? Fruity, sweet or savoury?
FWIW, I think I learned how to do DIY right IMO by learning the individual flavors themselves before diving into ANY complex recipes. Did a bunch of research first, then made a flavor list to buy. WAY OVERBOARD describes that flavor list... I bought something like 50, and probably a third of them or more remain sealed and unused nearly 3 years later. I soon learned that certain groups of flavors were not my thing IOW. So I bought more new that were within the types I liked, and started extracting some of my own NEF's and NET's.
Flavor extracts are not created equa. Most labs create the most popular flavors, but personal taste will dictate which of theirs you'll like the best. Add that some flavors sold are so powerful more than a drop or two might raise your roof. So it is best to tread lightly at first and err to the low side. You can always add more flavor to taste. There are "sheets" out there that lists all of some companies flavors and give percentage ranges for each of them. Makes just starting out easier if you have an idea what is generally accepted by many others as the right range. I don't know about local SA flavor companies yet, but if they don't have a readily available percentage range list you might try asking them.
For me anyway there are a few flavors I like stand alone mixed to the percentage I like for them (which is normally quite strong). Taste is speculative, always will be, so don't get discourage by any failures... learn from them.
Flavor extracts are not created equa. Most labs create the most popular flavors, but personal taste will dictate which of theirs you'll like the best. Add that some flavors sold are so powerful more than a drop or two might raise your roof. So it is best to tread lightly at first and err to the low side. You can always add more flavor to taste. There are "sheets" out there that lists all of some companies flavors and give percentage ranges for each of them. Makes just starting out easier if you have an idea what is generally accepted by many others as the right range. I don't know about local SA flavor companies yet, but if they don't have a readily available percentage range list you might try asking them.
For me anyway there are a few flavors I like stand alone mixed to the percentage I like for them (which is normally quite strong). Taste is speculative, always will be, so don't get discourage by any failures... learn from them.
@Spydro 's post is pure gold. I wasted months mixing "in the dark", making elaborate recipes.. And then not enjoying them. And not really learning anything about percentages.
I would say, in the beginning, follow a few simple recipes. And make loads of single flavour stuff to learn about strengths of concentrates you like.
To get to your question, a few singles I would recommend:
FLV Custard 5%
FA Fuji Apple 4%
FLV Milk and Honey 4%
I would look at FLV in general as they were made for vaping, so many were designed to be good standalone flavours.
@Spydro @rogue zombie thank you very much for your very informative input. Hopefully this guidance will put me on the right diy track and get me motivated again. I look forward to giving those flavours a go.
Forgotten to mention, those percentages I make are with 70VG/30PG juices. So adjust if you making 50/50.
I hope you find your way. I have honestly gotten to a point where I prefer my DIY to 90% of commercial juices. For the fact that I like "different" flavour profiles, and I like light flavour. And commercially, juice makers have to make things that will appeal to the masses.
So I'm finding nowadays, after a hard day or when I'm really in need of something 'good' - I reach for one of own wonderfully weird juices
Personally I prefer the individual flavor company lists for flavor percentages by THOSE COMPANIES that don't use just the same catch all percentage for all of their flavors (like 2%-5%, etc). IOW those that actually give an individual percentage range to each flavor. So I kind of hesitate to throw this out to someone just starting into DIY. It has so much data for very complex recipes as well that it's a sure bet noobs will dive into them too soon instead of learning the individual flavors right first. But to each their own, so here's kind of a one stop place to get an idea of flavor percentages that are based on input from the hoards more than the companies that make them. That does not mean the percentage(s) given will be right for you, rather just a starting range to find what is your preferred taste.
Just type in the flavor that you want to search, say TPA Eggnog (The Perfumer's Apprentice):
Percentages in recipes
Average mixing quantity: 5.3% (Median: 5%)
Minimum used quantity: 0.2%
Maximum used quantity: 20%
Single flavor recommendations: 3
Average quantity: 9% (Median: 12.0%)
Minimum used quantity: 5.0%
Maximum used quantity: 12.0%
http://e-liquid-recipes.com/flavors
Just type in the flavor that you want to search, say TPA Eggnog (The Perfumer's Apprentice):
Percentages in recipes
Average mixing quantity: 5.3% (Median: 5%)
Minimum used quantity: 0.2%
Maximum used quantity: 20%
Single flavor recommendations: 3
Average quantity: 9% (Median: 12.0%)
Minimum used quantity: 5.0%
Maximum used quantity: 12.0%
http://e-liquid-recipes.com/flavors
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Does this need steeping or shake and vape and any sweetness required
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Shake n Vape but I leave it over night.
No sweetener needed
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Thanks bud
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My DIY collection is starting to take off quite nicely now. I have probably 70% of the flavours I need. Spent today doing some trial and error using some new concentrates I received yesterday and today. I made 4 mixes - they smell amaze-balls. I did some speed steeping using a pot with water on the stove (got the idea from YT video), water wasn't boiling I kept the temp at +-40 degrees for about 3 hours. I would have gone longer but night shift called. I don't how much good this will do but this is all one huge learning curve for me.
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@Greyz, 40 Celsius is fine, just stay below 48. I use a UC instead, do not use it's heater, do mine in 30 minute cycles, let the water cool down some then hit them again. That so the water doesn't get too hot during a cycle (although I also have a temp probe with alarm if it's getting close to max temp). For most liquids 4 cycles is plenty with a days rest afterwards. For tobacco's 8 cycles plus with a day or two rest.
@Spydro sorry if I sound doff, but what is a UC? Is that an Ultrasonic Cleaner?
They are a bit costly here but if it speeds up steeping then I need it. I'll worry about how to explain to the Mrs later
If it does speed up steeping it will help my DIY experimentation out a lot. I have 10 bottles steeping each with just a single concIt will help me get through trying each individual flavor out quicker.
I want to get know to know some of these individual flavor profiles on their own, I'm hoping this will help me gain a better "feel" for the flavors.
In my mind I see this helping when trying to come up with my own unique mixes.
@Spydro sorry if I sound doff, but what is a UC? Is that an Ultrasonic Cleaner?
They are a bit costly here but if it speeds up steeping then I need it. I'll worry about how to explain to the Mrs later
If it does speed up steeping it will help my DIY experimentation out a lot. I have 10 bottles steeping each with just a single concIt will help me get through trying each individual flavor out quicker.
I want to get know to know some of these individual flavor profiles on their own, I'm hoping this will help me gain a better "feel" for the flavors.
In my mind I see this helping when trying to come up with my own unique mixes.
UC is, indeed, Ultrasonic Cleaner.
They are amazing for DIY juice, IMHO - they take a 2 week steep and turn it into 2 hours. Fantastic for rapid iteration on recipe tweaks or for quick turn around on your favourite ADV's in bulk.
They're also awesome for cleaning vape gear, specifically atties and drip tips. Some people clean their whole mods (mechs, like the REO - never any mod with electronics in it).
As for the wife, just tell her that you've gone and bought her a jewellery cleaner (the main purpose for their retail availability).
When looking, try to make sure that it has a timer - ideally one that goes to 30 mins minimum. This will save you having to either keep checking up on it or resetting the timer every 8 minutes. Heaters are also available, but I'd say skip that if you can as the cleaning action will heat the water up on its own over these kinds of durations.
Thanks @Papa_Lazarou, if it's that good then I have no choice but to start the hunt for a decent UC. Wife loves jewellery just a pity she doesn't have a jewellery cleaner, it would really save her a ton of time (how was that line?)
I have noticed that some of my single flavour mixes are changing colour as the days go. Read up and this is due to Nic oxidation.
Does the UC have any affect on the Nic oxidation?
@Greyz - When I was looking for an ultrasonic cleaner in September last year, I bought the Frankfort EZ Sonic 0.75 l 50 watts (the specs on the web says 30 watts, but on the box it is indicated as the "International Version" with 50 w, instead of 30 w) for R 750. It was the best value for money that I could find by a very far stretch.Thanks @Papa_Lazarou, if it's that good then I have no choice but to start the hunt for a decent UC. Wife loves jewellery just a pity she doesn't have a jewellery cleaner, it would really save her a ton of time (how was that line?)
I have noticed that some of my single flavour mixes are changing colour as the days go. Read up and this is due to Nic oxidation.
Does the UC have any affect on the Nic oxidation?
It looks and feels real quality and I have been using it a lot for the past 6 months and have never had a day's problems. It does an awesome job with mixing (you can actually see the process of homogenization clearly with clear glass bottles running in the UC) and cleaning.
The only place that I could find it then and now was / is here: https://www.safariandoutdoor.co.za/item/frankfort_220_volt_ez_sonic_cleaner If they're stilll available at a similar price that I got mine for, it seems that they've underpriced them significantly if you look at some U.S. online prices: www.amazon.com/Frankford-Arsenal-EZ-Sonic-Cleaner/dp/B007WQJC1I
In September they were still available for online purchase, but now I see that there is only one left for in-store purchase at the Pretoria store (and minus one at the Jhb store, whatever the hell that means). The store is not that far from me so if you would want I could pick it up and courier to you? PM me if you're interested
Thanks for the links @Lingogrey, the website doesn't have a price and the Amazon link says $123. I'm also battling to find one online anywhere, let me get back to you if I want to take the one in the Pretoria store. I appreciate the offer, really I do.
I found some online at Aliexpress, I'm just not sure on their quality...
My OCD won't let me make a purchase without researching the crud out of it first LOL
Okay so this thread has literally saved my vaping future. I was getting over spending hundreds of rands on things that sucked. I decided to give these single flavor recipes a last ditch effort and well it has brought it back for me.
I decided to get:
FLV Milk and honey
FLV Wild melons
FA Fuji Apple
TFA Strawberry ripe
Mixed up 100ml of the fuji apple and another of the Milk and Honey and wow! This stuff is really good. Today's mission is to mix the Wild Melons and then try the Fuji Apple/Strawberry ripe combo.
With the Milk and honey, I feel like it could go really well with one of the cereal flavors. Has anyone tried this yet?
I decided to get:
FLV Milk and honey
FLV Wild melons
FA Fuji Apple
TFA Strawberry ripe
Mixed up 100ml of the fuji apple and another of the Milk and Honey and wow! This stuff is really good. Today's mission is to mix the Wild Melons and then try the Fuji Apple/Strawberry ripe combo.
With the Milk and honey, I feel like it could go really well with one of the cereal flavors. Has anyone tried this yet?
Ooh I believe that Wild Melons is nice, yes?
It smells absolutely amazing but I ran out of VG when I was mixing yesterday so I have stocked up now and will mix later after work and post the results. I am just shocked that these flavors require so little actual concentrate compared to other brands.
After some calculations I have worked out off of the 4 10ml concentrates I bought I can mix 700ml of juice
I only mix 100ml bottles as 30mls only last a day.
It smells absolutely amazing but I ran out of VG when I was mixing yesterday so I have stocked up now and will mix later after work and post the results. I am just shocked that these flavors require so little actual concentrate compared to other brands.
After some calculations I have worked out off of the 4 10ml concentrates I bought I can mix 700ml of juice
Yip... you should try INW sometime. Its even more concentrated.
I have been using the same 10mls bottles of Cactus and Raspberry every month for over 6 months. I use less than 2% each time.
I do love FA. Great flavours. I still need to get into FLV
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