Siren 2 Reviews

[Silver]

Ok tonight was time to continue with the Siren V2 tweaking.

Am still on my 7 wrap spaced 28g Kanthal coil 1.3 ohms.

Instead of moving the coil downwards I decided to rather move it up slightly like my previous 11 wrapper was. Because I liked that coils flavour and throat hit. (@Tai i didnt take your advice because i checked photos of my previous coils and they were quite a bit higher than the one i had)

Verdict is that the throat hit is improved and I am a bit happier. But the flavour is still not dense enough. Its a bit drier. It's nice and I will vape the tank but it's not like my previous 11 wrapper.

Sigh.

Will try again with another coil that has more wraps. I am convinced i need more wraps. Or maybe i will just go for a clapton with some of the clapton wire i have.

This coil now just does not do enough justice to the juice - Havana Nightz.

Will have to coil another time ....

 

[Silver]

Tried a new coil in the Siren V2

So far I am quite a lot happier.

I went smaller on ID. Down to 2mm. And more wraps - 10 spaced wraps. Came out at 1.5 ohms.

I find it a bit tricky to adjust the height after the coil is clamped in. You have to judge it before tightening. I actually find it quite challenging to position the coil nicely.

I wanted to position it a tad higher but this will have to do

And the wicking. CB2. Packed it a bit tighter to get more wick into the channels. All ok.

And the verdict?

A lot better. More flavour. Nice throat hit. Quite dense flavour on longer drags. It's Havana Nightz which by now I know well. Lovely tobacco juice.

For me I have learnt that I need more wraps rather than fewer wraps.

Will continue with this and see how it develops.

 

[Jos]

Would a paracoil not give you a bit more surface area and at the same time allow you to drop the ohms a little?

 

[Silver]

Would a paracoil not give you a bit more surface area and at the same time allow you to drop the ohms a little?

Thanks @Jos
Dont know why i didnt think of trying that
You giving me ideas now

Maybe i will try that, will probably be a contact coil then

 

[Scouse45]

@Silver my bud I do think u must try lower the coil at some point literally like 1mm over the airflow. It pushes the flavor up Nicely as @Tai suggests. When u lift the coil I it may increase the throat hit but being further away allows more air so lessens the flavour. I stick to 26g and about 9-10 wraps. It’s gonna b abour surface area as u well know! 28g 7 warps u not getting much at all! So if u using 28g then 11 or so wraps and if u use 26g then 9-10 wraps and spaced is the right way to go! I find 2mm makes it nice and crisp and 2.5mm will allow more wick and juice so longer hits u may jus hav to push the watts up by 2w to get the crispness

 

[Silver]

Time to tackle the Siren V2 again. With a new coil.

Still trying to dial in the best possible coil for Havana Nightz tobacco MTL. Have tried a few coils now.

I wanted to keep to 28g for crispness. This time went for 2.4mm ID and more wraps. 10 wraps. But used SS. Spaced. Coil came out at 0.98 ohms.

Oh my gosh - look what landed on the coil as I was taking my coil pic!!!!!!!

That shocked me because I was zoomed in on my camera when it landed on the coil. Got a fright. Haha. Lucky I took the pic. It flew away in a second.

I positioned the coil lower down. Just about 1mm above the airholes.

The problem with too many wraps when spaced is that the coil legs then go at too much of an angle. I wanted 11 wraps but settled on 10.

All wicked up - CB2 seems to work nicely for this juice.

And voila - all set up and vaping at about 13.5 Watts. Tight MTL on second smallest airhole.

And how's the vape ?

Now we talking. It's quite a bit better. Am a lot happier now. Still very crisp but nicer and richer flavour. Good throat hit.

@Scouse45 and @Tai - you guys were right about positioning the coil lower. Thanks for that !

I prefer the bigger 2.4mm ID. And as @Scouse45 said if you going 28g you definitely need 10/11 wraps.

It's very nice. Will continue for a while on this coil it seems.

 

[Scouse45]

Time to tackle the Siren V2 again. With a new coil.

Still trying to dial in the best possible coil for Havana Nightz tobacco MTL. Have tried a few coils now.

I wanted to keep to 28g for crispness. This time went for 2.4mm ID and more wraps. 10 wraps. But used SS. Spaced. Coil came out at 0.98 ohms.

Oh my gosh - look what landed on the coil as I was taking my coil pic!!!!!!!

That shocked me because I was zoomed in on my camera when it landed on the coil. Got a fright. Haha. Lucky I took the pic. It flew away in a second.

I positioned the coil lower down. Just about 1mm above the airholes.

The problem with too many wraps when spaced is that the coil legs then go at too much of an angle. I wanted 11 wraps but settled on 10.

All wicked up - CB2 seems to work nicely for this juice.

And voila - all set up and vaping at about 13.5 Watts. Tight MTL on second smallest airhole.

And how's the vape ?

Now we talking. It's quite a bit better. Am a lot happier now. Still very crisp but nicer and richer flavour. Good throat hit.

@Scouse45 and @Tai - you guys were right about positioning the coil lower. Thanks for that !

I prefer the bigger 2.4mm ID. And as @Scouse45 said if you going 28g you definitely need 10/11 wraps.

It's very nice. Will continue for a while on this coil it seems.

Now we talking @Silver that looks much better u getting more surface area and nice and low meaning u get that sharpness and crisp bite. Looks better to me. Gonna rebuild mine jus now testing some simple Clapton’s mtl and I’ll post.

 

[Silver]

Now we talking @Silver that looks much better u getting more surface area and nice and low meaning u get that sharpness and crisp bite. Looks better to me. Gonna rebuild mine jus now testing some simple Clapton’s mtl and I’ll post.

Ya, your advice was spot on there

Ooh, claptons!
Let us know how that goes

 

[Amir]

I tried lowering the coil to just above the airflow and the flavor really does get enhanced like it really pops. I’m using 26g ss on a 2.5 about 6 wraps I think but for me personally for this tank I prefer the coil way high up because for mtl it’s all about the throat hit for me


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[Scouse45]

I tried lowering the coil to just above the airflow and the flavor really does get enhanced like it really pops. I’m using 26g ss on a 2.5 about 6 wraps I think but for me personally for this tank I prefer the coil way high up because for mtl it’s all about the throat hit for me


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It’s cool how we all different Coz I get more hit from it lower and I know how u like yours. It’s a magic tank though u never need to worry about leaking of any kind so easy to fill. Jus wouldn’t preferred the 24 my side coz this 22 doesn’t hold as much juice hey @Silver

 

[Amir]

It’s cool how we all different Coz I get more hit from it lower and I know how u like yours. It’s a magic tank though u never need to worry about leaking of any kind so easy to fill. Jus wouldn’t preferred the 24 my side coz this 22 doesn’t hold as much juice hey @Silver

I love the 22 lol it’s my travel pocket buddy for stealth vaping in planes etc. the throat hit is so violent with 20mg juice that you almost don’t wanna take a 3rd and 4th toot. Sometimes you just do the mouth bit in mtl action and then pause... thinking should I I shouldn’t I hit this bad boy


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[Silver]

It’s cool how we all different Coz I get more hit from it lower and I know how u like yours. It’s a magic tank though u never need to worry about leaking of any kind so easy to fill. Jus wouldn’t preferred the 24 my side coz this 22 doesn’t hold as much juice hey @Silver

Very right @Scouse45 about us all being different
Its funny though, most tanks ive had, if you raise the coil a bit higher you get slightly more throat hit. But on this one, even low down and the throat hit is still good. And the flavour is good.

Anyhow, i am vaping Havana Nightz which i got at 9mg and have nicced it up a bit to about 12mg
I must say, for 12mg the throat hit on this tank is very good. Especially on that second toot when its warmed up

I also wanted the 24mm @Scouse45 , but you are right, it is SO easy to fill. So i dont really mind. And the MTL doesnt guzzle juice as fast as other lung hit tanks. So its actually ok

@Amir - that 20mg must be glorious!! Stealth weapon of note

 

[Scouse45]

Jus rewicked and cleaned the Clapton in the siren. A basic 26 wrapped with 36 ni80. Comes out a little low but stil l works champ at 18w and flavour pops quite a bit more. Still love my plain round wire. But I nice change to up the flavour and for some nice long slow drags with some SNLV in it @Silver @Amir

 

[Silver]

Great to see @Scouse45 !!
Nice and low - its so close to the deck
Am assuming it produces a slightly wetter vape? And perhaps a bit denser?

Ha, i see its on the Pico. I also want to put it on the Pico but my Pico is white so it probably wont look as matched as yours. Lol

 

[Scouse45]

Great to see @Scouse45 !!
Nice and low - its so close to the deck
Am assuming it produces a slightly wetter vape? And perhaps a bit denser?

Ha, i see its on the Pico. I also want to put it on the Pico but my Pico is white so it probably wont look as matched as yours. Lol

It’s hard to tell so far think the plain wire works better in this siren 2. But still not bad at all. Yeah this is my Pico 25 been in the Wars but does a good job blacked out mtl

 

[Amir]

Jus rewicked and cleaned the Clapton in the siren. A basic 26 wrapped with 36 ni80. Comes out a little low but stil l works champ at 18w and flavour pops quite a bit more. Still love my plain round wire. But I nice change to up the flavour and for some nice long slow drags with some SNLV in it @Silver @Amir
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I’ve tried quite a few different wire configurations even some 29/40 Clapton’s but the 26g ss coil high up just works for me so abusively well that I keep on coming back to it.


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[Amir]

Very right @Scouse45 about us all being different
Its funny though, most tanks ive had, if you raise the coil a bit higher you get slightly more throat hit. But on this one, even low down and the throat hit is still good. And the flavour is good.

Anyhow, i am vaping Havana Nightz which i got at 9mg and have nicced it up a bit to about 12mg
I must say, for 12mg the throat hit on this tank is very good. Especially on that second toot when its warmed up

I also wanted the 24mm @Scouse45 , but you are right, it is SO easy to fill. So i dont really mind. And the MTL doesnt guzzle juice as fast as other lung hit tanks. So its actually ok

@Amir - that 20mg must be glorious!! Stealth weapon of note

It’s a real kicker. .35 ohm at 30W on the 2nd largest airflow... it’s raspy and sharp.


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[Silver]

It’s a real kicker. .35 ohm at 30W on the 2nd largest airflow... it’s raspy and sharp.


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Raspy and sharp is good

 

[johan]

The build that works for me personally (Siren 2 on mech // Limelight e-pipe) with tobacco e-liquid [Alien Visions Havana Gold]: 26G Kanthal A1 >> 7 spaced wraps on 3mm ID, coil mounted as low as possible.

 

[Silver]

The build that works for me personally (Siren 2 on mech // Limelight e-pipe) with tobacco e-liquid [Alien Visions Havana Gold]: 26G Kanthal A1 >> 7 spaced wraps on 3mm ID, coil mounted as low as possible.

Oh @johan, that sounds super!
Limelight pipe, great tobacco juice and a great MTL vape!
Show us a picture when you get a chance

PS - howzit and happy new year @johan !

 

[johan]

Oh @johan, that sounds super!
Limelight pipe, great tobacco juice and a great MTL vape!
Show us a picture when you get a chance

PS - howzit and happy new year @johan !

Will do a photo when back, and happy new year to you as well.

 

[Amir]

The build that works for me personally (Siren 2 on mech // Limelight e-pipe) with tobacco e-liquid [Alien Visions Havana Gold]: 26G Kanthal A1 >> 7 spaced wraps on 3mm ID, coil mounted as low as possible.

I’ve got one on the kamrytech pipe which operates like a V8 stock battery as a fixed output and then one on a istick 40W for traveling etc because it’s more conducive to pocket carry


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[ClarkJohns]

Greetings!
Though I might be a bit late to the party, I've found some good ideas in this thread and would like to ask some questions about your methods.
I received my Siren 2 early January, and have been trying out various setups on it but never really "got there" with it.
I use 26 gauge ss316L coils in it (3mm, slightly spaced) with an 80vg/20pg liquid, tried both 6 and 9 wraps based on @Scouse45 's recommendation. The wick is cotton, sort of tight fit inside the coil and I thin it out a bit (sometimes a lot, sometimes barely) in the wicking channels.
Now my problem is that whatever setup I try seems to either have very poor taste from the start, or great taste until about the first refill of the tank, taking off and replacing the cap for a refill seems to mess something up with the wick that makes the taste completely disappear after the refill.
Reading your experiences it seems to me you guys have pretty good results, so I'd like to ask what sorts of liquids (vg/pg ratio) and what amounts of cotton do you use in your builds? On @Silver 's pictures it seems there's not as much cotton in there as I use. Also do you have any idea why the cap replacement would mess the wicking up so badly?
Using more wraps and sitting the coil closer to the airflow control seems to have made the situation better but I still wouldn't call it great.
Thanks for any replies, and sorry about the long message.
Have a nice day!

 

[Silver]

Welcome to the forum @ClarkJohns
Been a while since ive recoiled or rewicked rhe Siren V2
Its been benched for a while

Was mainly using about 60VG 12mg nic in it. Tobaccoes mainly
2nd smallest airhole. Mouth to lung, tight
Low power - about 10-15Watts

Hopefully some of the other Siren 2 users can help you out

 

[ClarkJohns]

Thanks for the reply. I use 40 watts in temp control mode, with 230 °C set as the limit. I think my problem probably originates from using very high vg liquid, but then again I see people writing about getting good results with these so I'm a bit puzzled.