Stainless Steel Coils

[Nimatek]

So I collected @Wyvern 's Billow from @MorneW (thanks again dude!) and decided to rebuild all my tanks and hers with SS 316L. Cut off the lengths I need (which is still a bit generous as I tend to through away about 5 - 8cm after) and ran it through some vodka in a bowl and dried with paper towel. Didn't have any residue on the towel from the UD SS so maybe I'l lucky.

Built coils for the Billows and my one looked ok, not great but who cares right. Did her Billow and lastly did my Goblin Mini. All coils (spaced one this time) are 6 wraps on 2.5mm ID using 26ga SS 316L.

Both Billows come to 0.21 ohm and the Goblin came in at 0.18ohm.

Getting clean hits on both my Billow and the Goblin (even wicked it better this time) and the taste is clean. My first tank on each is a little muted but will see as the wicks and coils settle.

Both running perfectly on my VTC mini in Temp control mode @ 450 F and 50W.

 

[Wyvern]

Yay So that means I can use the TC on my little mod then!

 

[MorneW]

@Nimatek only a pleasure.


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[Nimatek]

Edit

I can also conclusively state that SS on the Vtc mini is working quite a treat for both of us.

Was happily vaping on the goblin and didn't even notice the tank running empty. Just got a hit with vaper but no flavour, looked down and saw i need to refill.

Vapour mountain tropical ice cleared my taste buds and had a nice evening of filling a friends house with clouds

 

[method1]

I've attached a DNA200 SS316L profile for use with your DNA mod, let me know how it works out

 

[Andre]

Yeah seen these, not as far as I know.

Will have to wait for my Rolo to arrive and test again.
For now SS makes an excellent kanthal alternative.

And the single twisted coil i put in the tfv4 last night works amazingly.

Just read on ECF and confirmed by a member here that the Evic Mini was set up for SS 304 in TC mode. Got mine from www.zivipf.de. They call it V2a.
http://www.zivipf.com/epages/638622...298/Categories/Heizdraht/"V2A Edelstahldraht"

 

[DoubleD]

Considering SS is about half the resistance of kanthal, how fast does SS wire heat up compared to kanthal?

Like if you were to take a 1Ω SS coil vs 1Ω Kanthal coil, logic would tell me the 12wraps of SS will take longer to heat up compared to the 6 wraps of kanthal. (using 28gauge wires)

 

[arbdullah]

Buy in bulk and save

http://www.nemtek.co.za/agricultural/wire/stainless-steel-wires-3/solid-stainless-steel.aspx

 

[Petrus]

Considering SS is about half the resistance of kanthal, how fast does SS wire heat up compared to kanthal?

Like if you were to take a 1Ω SS coil vs 1Ω Kanthal coil, logic would tell me the 12wraps of SS will take longer to heat up compared to the 6 wraps of kanthal. (using 28gauge wires)

@DoubleD. Excellent point. That is why I want to do a micro coil build on a rm2, Reo mini combo. If the SS heats up quicker, maybe you get a "good" vape for a longer time, taking the smaller battery into consideration.

 

[zadiac]

SS heats up much faster than kanthal. I only vape with SS now. Prob won't go back to kanthal ever.

 

[DoubleD]

SS heats up much faster than kanthal. I only vape with SS now. Prob won't go back to kanthal ever.

Interesting, its a pity we dont have someone with two of the same RDA's to do a video test to see the ramp up time between the SS and Kanthal.

I read somewhere that SS is softer than kanthal?

 

[zadiac]

Interesting, its a pity we dont have someone with two of the same RDA's to do a video test to see the ramp up time between the SS and Kanthal.

I read somewhere that SS is softer than kanthal?

Yes, the 316L is softer than kanthal and believe me, I've tested it, it heats up way faster than kanthal

 

[Petrus]

@Andre , @Rob Fisher , so I did my first SS 316l build on my RM2 with a Reo Mini...........awesome, excellent. 28g wire , 8 wraps, 1.5mm, wick with fibre freak no.2, 0.68 ohm. Coil heats up more rapidly, nice smooth vape, full of flavour. I think the 18500 battery will last a bit longer.

 

[chamberlane]

Hi

Are there any good resources for info about SS vs Kanthal as a heating element? I get the impression that while it's probably nice it's just a fad (similar to the RxW camp). Wouldn't mind being proved wrong though.

 

[Rob Fisher]

Hi

Are there any good resources for info about SS vs Kanthal as a heating element? I get the impression that while it's probably nice it's just a fad (similar to the RxW camp). Wouldn't mind being proved wrong though.

I don't think the RxW is a passing fad... there are a few guys who use nothing else... the problem with RxW is that it's really difficult to get because it's not allowed to be exported from the USA. Those vapers that like ekowool love RxW because it lasts for months!

SS brings another dimension to vaping and while it's still early days with it the few people that have tried it (me included) find it crisper and it most certainly has a place in vaping... after testing a roll of 26g and liking the results I bought a few other gauges to try as well... for me it's another step in the vaping journey... most of my devices still have kanthal but three of them have SS... will I stick with SS over Kanthal... don't know... still experimenting... at R150 (or thereabouts) for a roll I would suggest you give it a try.

 

[Jakey]

After my initial metallic taste on my first ss build I thought id give it another shot. Been messing around with ss builds in my Bellus over the past three days and WOW was I wrong.

I have no idea what happened with the first build but im getting notes out of my juices with the SS + fresh rayon that ive never tasted before.

Im really enjoying this wire! Just curious to see how long the coils last though as I find that they gunk up real quick. (I dont think il get to see how long they last as I usually end up building every day or two)

I did find that I have to rewick more often than usual with the builds ive put on, so every 2-3 tanks. Maybe its just the build I have on here or the juice im using.

That being said, im loving ss at the moment. Happy days!!!!

 

[method1]

Also really enjoying the SS, using it in TC mode on the dna200 is pretty sweet. It's really nice in good old power mode too.

 

[Christos]

Tried kanthal because the SS was making the cyclone standard cap too hot.
2 mins in I abandoned kanthal and back on the SS.
Kanthal tastes flat.

 

[Wyvern]

I have to admit, being new to this whole thing, I have tried kanthal, ni and ss. Overall I have to say I love the SS - it is noob friendly, the TC control on my evic mini is amazing plus the taste and vape on it is great. I have found that I had to rewick after about 3 days of use but then again I suspect it was more the juice than the SS. My fruity flavours are way more powerful and they dont gunk up my coils at all. The desert vapes I will have to rewick tho. But I love the taste, where with Ni I def had a weird taste and reaction. As well as the kanthal, I could def taste a metalic after taste.

 

[Riaz]

Gave SS a try as well.

BF Derringer
Parallel 28g
2.5mm ID
5 para wraps
KGD wick

Flavor is much better and crispier than kanthal.

Im still in the testing stages, but looks like i will be moving slowly over to SS completely (once ive used up all my kanthal)

 

[Silver]

@Andre , @Rob Fisher , so I did my first SS 316l build on my RM2 with a Reo Mini...........awesome, excellent. 28g wire , 8 wraps, 1.5mm, wick with fibre freak no.2, 0.68 ohm. Coil heats up more rapidly, nice smooth vape, full of flavour. I think the 18500 battery will last a bit longer.

Thanks for the feedback @Petrus. Let us know how it goes after a bit

 

[Silver]

Gave SS a try as well.

BF Derringer
Parallel 28g
2.5mm ID
5 para wraps
KGD wick

Flavor is much better and crispier than kanthal.

Im still in the testing stages, but looks like i will be moving slowly over to SS completely (once ive used up all my kanthal)

Great news @Riaz

Can anyone suggest what gauge of SS I should try in my RM2 for a simple single coil?

 

[n0ugh7_zw]

From my side, SS316L is a pleasure to work with, slightly softer than kanthal, but not so soft that it can't hold its shape when you wick it.

I've only used it in non-TC so far, and its performed really well. No issues with pulsing it, even at high wattages. Crisp clean flavour, and coils that on average last longer than Kanthal and are easier to clean.

One tip is that if you're using a SS316L build in non-TC applications, it's best to run in Variable voltage, as its resistance changes with heat and age, running in VV keeps your vape nice and consistent.

 

[Riaz]

Great news @Riaz

Can anyone suggest what gauge of SS I should try in my RM2 for a simple single coil?

I started with 28g and found it a little soft.

But you can't really go any lower in gauge coz then the resistance might be too low for you @Silver

So I'd suggest starting with 28g

My parallel build, is 10 wraps around 2.5mm and the resistance is about 0.3.


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[Nimatek]

Got my Crown Tank and using the standard SS 0.25 dual coil and in VW it is great, but shockingly the Temp Control works as well!

Another pro for the Evic VTC Mini