SXK Billet Box Clone Review

Rob Fisher said:
Yip I gathered that... I install the Exocet in the boro, put the glass on, leave a gap, fill with juice, close the glass, wipe the excess juice off because I like my boro filled with no air left... then popo it into the BB.
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Yup I know - my comment was an early-morning attempt at crude humour :p I need coffee!
:FAPFAP:
 
aktorsyl said:
Ok, so to report on that experiment:

Used the new Exocet, and the new (black) Boro tank. First observation: the glass on the black Boro is a MUCH tighter fit. Maybe a bit too much, but it moves so, eh.

Second observation: The positive post on the new Exocet doesn't loosen nearly as easily as the first one. Usually when I tighten the post screw onto the coil, it loosens - but not this time. Stayed solid as a rock.

I used 2.5mm ID spaced kanthal 24ga, 5 wraps at 0.43 ohm. I did wick it a little differently this time though: less cotton (it is still kinda snug in the coil but definitely not tight. Then I combed it out with the needle tweezers, trimmed it, and fluffed the hell out of it. Top cap went on, and I trimmed it again (maybe a bit too close to the top cap this time). Then I did the Amir-trick (yeah @Amir , that's trademarked now) and blew onto the cotton to get it to fluff back against the cap.

Into the Boro it went, chimney went on (the chimney isn't tighter on the new Exocet, that's about the same). Filled up the Boro, and it pissed juice all over the table through the air hole at the bottom of the Exocet. Remember I told you that I think I trimmed the cotton a bit too close this time? Yeah..

Anyway, it kinda self-corrected. I blew into the chimney from the top of the Boro, cleared out the bit of juice in there, and the leaking stopped. Filled the Boro to the top and it started leaking again - blew into it again, and it stopped again. Left it alone for a bit, no leaking. Did a few dry puffs through the top of the Boro, no leaking. Blew into it, still no leaking. Kinda bizarre.

But I digress. The filled Boro went into the BB (actually I'm beginning to think that the Boro shouldn't be filled before it's screwed into the BB - maybe @Rob Fisher can comment on that part?), set it to 23W, and off to the races.

In the name of science, I chain-vaped it like a psychopath. I lost count at 10 two-second puffs in succession. This may be attributed to three factors, namely: 10 is a big number, nicotine is a Thing, and I was trying to see where I'm oriented in the room with all the vapour swirling around me. But! Even with that harsh and completely unrealistic punishment, there was nary a dry hit.

I'm just a bit paranoid about the next refill, to see if it leaks again - but we'll see. I've been vaping on it for the last 20 minutes and it's fine so far.

PS: But I do suspect I went too close on the cotton. When I do a hard dry puff, I can hear a droplet or two of juice rattling around in the deck.

PS2: Eventually reached the dreaded refill stage, and yup - it leaks. But strangely enough, only until you do about 3-4 dry puffs and then it's fine again. I of course suspect my wicking here. I don't think the problem is with the combing out of the wick, but rather the tails (outside the top cap) being too short. I suppose it could technically also be the chimney that's leaking where it joins the deck, but I rather doubt it.
I'm 99% sure the Exocet wants REALLY thin cotton, but that the cotton should protrude about 5-7mm outside the deck/topcap. Again, Rob might be able to share his wicking technique here.
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Try the same method, everything exactly the same, but dont comb the wicks out at all. What you have there that's causing the leaking is the pressure inside the thank forcing juice through the cotton, over saturating the coil and the excess droplets falling into the really tiny airflow hole. Thing is, once that process begins, the law of theromdynamics states that the liquid will follow the path of least resistance so basically the rest of the juice will follow the first drop.... But I too digress...

Don't comb the wicks out, and trim 3-4mm off the chimney. Don't prime the wicks... Just assemble the new black, tighter boro... i find it seals much better than the white one, fill with juice and let the boro stand for 10-15 mins outside of the BB so you can monitor the leaking, where's the droplets coming from etc
 
To me this SXK clone would be perfect if not for the fluctuating ohms.
 
Riaz said:
To me this SXK clone would be perfect if not for the fluctuating ohms.
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In a process of experimentation by elimination, it seems to be the exocet that's causing the problems. @Rob Fisher tried the authentic exocet and had no issues, I went through a couple of clone exocets before finding one that's stable.
 
Amir said:
In a process of experimentation by elimination, it seems to be the exocet that's causing the problems. @Rob Fisher tried the authentic exocet and had no issues, I went through a couple of clone exocets before finding one that's stable.
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Neither of my Exocets have fluctuating ohms. Well, the first one did at first, but after tightening the positive post, that went away.
 
aktorsyl said:
Neither of my Exocets have fluctuating ohms. Well, the first one did at first, but after tightening the positive post, that went away.
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I have neither the tolerance nor the patience to toy with something that fickle... I do find that with clones there are lemons and not worth going through the motions for a replacement. like you said, with this new batch of exo's and the new black boro specifically, I'm finding tighter tolerances and less issues. My biggest issue right now is how often I need to rewick due to the amount of juice going through my BB. the flavor is exceptional and juices that once seemed dull and uninteresting have now come alive. Even highly subtle flavors like Cotton candy by Propaganda which produced little to no flavor in other devices is now one of my go to juices.
 
Amir said:
I have neither the tolerance nor the patience to toy with something that fickle... I do find that with clones there are lemons and not worth going through the motions for a replacement. like you said, with this new batch of exo's and the new black boro specifically, I'm finding tighter tolerances and less issues. My biggest issue right now is how often I need to rewick due to the amount of juice going through my BB. the flavor is exceptional and juices that once seemed dull and uninteresting have now come alive. Even highly subtle flavors like Cotton candy by Propaganda which produced little to no flavor in other devices is now one of my go to juices.
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Indeed. The new black Boro is much tighter - in fact, the glass is probably too tight. If that thing is even just slightly slippery from juice, good luck getting it open :p
 
aktorsyl said:
Indeed. The new black Boro is much tighter - in fact, the glass is probably too tight. If that thing is even just slightly slippery from juice, good luck getting it open :p
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Lube the red seal o-ring thing, in time she'll loosen up for you... They always do ;-)
 
aktorsyl said:
Indeed. The new black Boro is much tighter - in fact, the glass is probably too tight. If that thing is even just slightly slippery from juice, good luck getting it open :p
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You might want to try using "finger cots", it looks like a tiny latex condom and should grip the boro glass nicely.
The cots are available at your local chemist and they're used to protect/ keep dry fingers post surgery.
 
Amir said:
Lube the red seal o-ring thing, in time she'll loosen up for you... They always do ;-)
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Lol.
But I did yes. It'll just have to break in a bit I guess. Will have to rewick it tonight again so second round of lube will be administered.
 
blujeenz said:
You might want to try using "finger cots", it looks like a tiny latex condom and should grip the boro glass nicely.
The cots are available at your local chemist and they're used to protect/ keep dry fingers post surgery.
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That would make for one really awkward conversation with the wife when she finds finger condoms in your jeans pocket next to a juice stain which looks like something else...
 
blujeenz said:
You might want to try using "finger cots", it looks like a tiny latex condom and should grip the boro glass nicely.
The cots are available at your local chemist and they're used to protect/ keep dry fingers post surgery.
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That could work - maybe i should just keep a nitrile glove (of which I've got a shitload due to DIY) handy, they're pretty grippy too.
 
aktorsyl said:
That could work - maybe i should just keep a nitrile glove (of which I've got a shitload due to DIY) handy, they're pretty grippy too.
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If you have both the white and the black boro handy, in the name of science... Please try switching the glass and give detailed findings for 5 marks
 
Amir said:
If you have both the white and the black boro handy, in the name of science... Please try switching the glass and give detailed findings for 5 marks
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Yup that's on my list.
We should send SXK an invoice for all the damn "science" we're doing for them, here.
 
aktorsyl said:
I'd buy 5. The clones can do my work while I go figure out how to get my RTA's to wick correctly :p
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I'm pretty sure they'd be more troublesome than the exo. After all, the authentic is flawed... Should we really put our faith in the clone?
 
Doesn't buying 5-6 clones to find one that works defeat the object? Buying an authentic Hadaly for R1100 or five clones at R400 and only getting one that works isn't a smart financial management model for me. Unless of course you need to buy three authentics to find one that works. In that case, it's a rubbish atty and I wouldn't bother with either the original or the clone. All the clone atties I've bought have worked flawlessly. But then I use drippers and it's kinda hard to make a dripper that gives dry hits. Provided you drip juice into it first, natch.

I've heard the Skyline clone is very good. If 50% of users were complaining of regular dry hits regardless of what they did, I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. Likewise, I would never buy a Kylin. Forking over the cash in the belief that I will be one of the lucky ones who doesn't get leaking is an exercise in futile optimism imo.
 
RichJB said:
Doesn't buying 5-6 clones to find one that works defeat the object? Buying an authentic Hadaly for R1100 or five clones at R400 and only getting one that works isn't a smart financial management model for me. Unless of course you need to buy three authentics to find one that works. In that case, it's a rubbish atty and I wouldn't bother with either the original or the clone. All the clone atties I've bought have worked flawlessly. But then I use drippers and it's kinda hard to make a dripper that gives dry hits. Provided you drip juice into it first, natch.

I've heard the Skyline clone is very good. If 50% of users were complaining of regular dry hits regardless of what they did, I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. Likewise, I would never buy a Kylin. Forking over the cash in the belief that I will be one of the lucky ones who doesn't get leaking is an exercise in futile optimism imo.
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Totally agree with you, but there are cases where - even when buying multiple batches - you still end up paying far less than the authentic. For me, the real pain with the authentic is how hard it is to get one in this case (combined with the fact that the Exocet is no longer in production). The BB is such a good concept that I'd be willing to pay good money for it, but I really can't be arsed to go on an F5-hunt for one :p
 
Darth Vaper said:
So, given the collective experience of everyone contributing to this thread, who HAS had success with the Exocet clone?


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Most of us, it seems - with a few weird ones probably from a batch that was made very late on a Friday. I think I counted 3 or 4 dry hit reports on the Exoclone on the forum. The jury is still out on mine. The rest of the BB+Exoclone users are either quiet or happy with their purchases :p

I bought 2 Exocets about a week apart and they're very different.
 
GerritVisagie said:
I have.
No issues whatsoever


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Gerrit, remind me of your wicking technique again if you will?
I'm making a list of all the techniques that are proven to work, and a list of the ones that don't.
 
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