Sooooo true. LolThe tfv8 will introduce you to wrapping your own coils once the pre made coils are finished , you will realise how easy and cost effective it actually is . . . Then when your vape budget is blown to pieces due to the thirst of modern tanks you will venture into DIY . . . With all the hard earned cash you saved from building and DIY you will buy countless Rtas in search of the perfect vape. At least that was my story with the tfv4 at the start of this year