The Serpent Mini 22 and 25 Build Thread

So Ive been playing around with the serpent for about a day and noticed a few things:
- Its spits a bit sometimes (like when refilling), can this be the Twisted coil that i used that came with it?
- There seems to be some kind of a 'airlock' happening, so every now and again I get a hit that tastes like the start of a burning coil, then I just unscrew the top filing cap a few winds and there will be bubbles popping up from the bottom, and Bam the burn taste will be gone.
- The taste is Okay, but not great, Is this because of the Chinese cotton im using? im comparing to my Big Baby beast tank and the Baby beast has sooooo much more flavor? Might this be because i only running the single coil?

I am going to replace the coil that I have in there (that came with the box) with a fused clapton to see if there are any changes. Will also try the Velocity deck with both coils to see if that makes a changes.
 
Dietz said:
So Ive been playing around with hte serpent for about a day and noticed a few things:
- Its spits a bit sometimes (like when refilling)
- There seems to be some kind of a 'airlock' happening, so every now and again I get a hit that tastes like the start of a burning coil, then I just unscrew the top filing cap a few winds and there will be bubbles popping up from the bottom, and Bam the burn taste will be gone.
- The taste is Okay, but not great. im comparing to my Big Baby beast tank and the Baby beast has sooooo much more flavor? Migt this be because i only running the single coil?

I am going to replace the coil that I have in there (that came with the box) with a fused clapton to see if there are any changes. Will also try the Velocity deck with both coils to see if that makes a changes.
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@Dietz never had luck with claptons etc on the sm25..str8 up ni80 7 wrap 3mm id 26 gauge 0.7ish ohm has been my go to coil..want to para wrap to drop the ohms
 
incredible_hullk said:
@Dietz never had luck with claptons etc on the sm25..str8 up ni80 7 wrap 3mm id 26 gauge 0.7ish ohm has been my go to coil..want to para wrap to drop the ohms
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Thanks @incredible_hullk , will give this a try a bit later. For now I am going to try and make due with whats available, Will play around and see what I can find
 
Dietz said:
So Ive been playing around with the serpent for about a day and noticed a few things:
- Its spits a bit sometimes (like when refilling), can this be the Twisted coil that i used that came with it?
- There seems to be some kind of a 'airlock' happening, so every now and again I get a hit that tastes like the start of a burning coil, then I just unscrew the top filing cap a few winds and there will be bubbles popping up from the bottom, and Bam the burn taste will be gone.
- The taste is Okay, but not great, Is this because of the Chinese cotton im using? im comparing to my Big Baby beast tank and the Baby beast has sooooo much more flavor? Might this be because i only running the single coil?

I am going to replace the coil that I have in there (that came with the box) with a fused clapton to see if there are any changes. Will also try the Velocity deck with both coils to see if that makes a changes.
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Hi @Dietz

I think you should try a "simple" NI80 24g coil. About 7 Wraps, 3.5mm ID. Should be about 0.5 ohms or thereabouts. Then try with Cotton Bacon V2 for wicking. I get no spitting.

The wicking materials included with these tanks I find is generally not nearly as good as purpose bought wick.
 
Silver said:
Hi @Dietz

I think you should try a "simple" NI80 24g coil. About 7 Wraps, 3.5mm ID. Should be about 0.5 ohms or thereabouts. Then try with Cotton Bacon V2 for wicking. I get no spitting.

The wicking materials included with these tanks I find is generally not nearly as good as purpose bought wick.
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Feel stupid for asking but, is it the Nichrome 80? and is there a pots\Article on wire gauges or something similar?
 
Dietz said:
Feel stupid for asking but, is it the Nichrome 80? and is there a pots\Article on wire gauges or something similar?
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Yes it is Nichrome 80
Will try find a post on gauges
But basically, the gauge is a measurement of the thickness of the wire
The lower the number, the thicker the wire

28g is quite thin
26g is medium
24g and lower is quite a thick wire

The thicker the gauge, the lower the resistance (per length).

I find the thinner wire gives a crisper vape, which works nicely on some juices in some of my equipment.

The Serpent Mini 25 seems very at home with thicker wire (hence the 24g recommendation)

The downside of thicker wire is that it tends to take longer to ramp up to temperature (its more material)
The advantage of NI80 wire is that it ramps up faster (than Kanthal)
 
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Are you using single or Dual coil?
 
Rebuilt the Single coil with a .45 Clapton, re-wicked and everything seemed different. The flavor is there and awesome clouds!
I also built the velocity deck with two claptons and gave that a try, definitely much different. The dual coils kills the juice though, as in a few massive puffs will empty that thank in a blink and the batteries also suffer but im very happy with this little tank!!

I gave it my best try to get a burnt hit... With no luck. i eventually called quits when I started feeling too much Nic! Think it was after the 8th inhale :abduct:

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Silver said:
Hi @Dietz

I think you should try a "simple" NI80 24g coil. About 7 Wraps, 3.5mm ID. Should be about 0.5 ohms or thereabouts. Then try with Cotton Bacon V2 for wicking. I get no spitting.
The wicking materials included with these tanks I find is generally not nearly as good as purpose bought wick.
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Thanks, I picked up a pack of Kidney Puncher NI80 24g, going to give this one a try!
 
@Silver I gave my 1st DIY Coil a go with the recommended wire and WOW!! What a difference! The flavor is definitely more intense and there is just something more satisfying vaping from my own coil :D

I keep on thinking how can a simple piece of wire make such a massive difference!! Also looks can be deceiving, I definitely (based on looks only) thought the fused claptons would be the better ones.
Had to give it two tries as the 1st attempt came out just to short as I measured out 10CMs, the second one was great.

I also want to give a Big Thank You to @Rob Fisher and @BigGuy for the AWESOME videos on this build, It really helped me a mass!!

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Dietz said:
@Silver I gave my 1st DIY Coil a go with the recommended wire and WOW!! What a difference! The flavor is definitely more intense and there is just something more satisfying vaping from my own coil :D

I keep on thinking how can a simple piece of wire make such a massive difference!! Also looks can be deceiving, I definitely (based on looks only) thought the fused claptons would be the better ones.
Had to give it two tries as the 1st attempt came out just to short as I measured out 10CMs, the second one was great.

I also want to give a Big Thank You to @Rob Fisher and @BigGuy for the AWESOME videos on this build, It really helped me a mass!!

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Congrats @Dietz
Way to go!
Glad you enjoying it - looks great
 
Dietz said:
So Ive been playing around with the serpent for about a day and noticed a few things:
- Its spits a bit sometimes (like when refilling), can this be the Twisted coil that i used that came with it?
- There seems to be some kind of a 'airlock' happening, so every now and again I get a hit that tastes like the start of a burning coil, then I just unscrew the top filing cap a few winds and there will be bubbles popping up from the bottom, and Bam the burn taste will be gone.
- The taste is Okay, but not great, Is this because of the Chinese cotton im using? im comparing to my Big Baby beast tank and the Baby beast has sooooo much more flavor? Might this be because i only running the single coil?

I am going to replace the coil that I have in there (that came with the box) with a fused clapton to see if there are any changes. Will also try the Velocity deck with both coils to see if that makes a changes.
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I got good flavor and performance with the Twisted coil that came in the package. I have since installed a Clapton and it's very good. I love this tank. I think it is designed for singles,try some Japanese cotton or rayon.Don't give up on her she's a great tank!
 
kev mac said:
I got good flavor and performance with the Twisted coil that came in the package. I have since installed a Clapton and it's very good. I love this tank. I think it is designed for singles,try some Japanese cotton or rayon.Don't give up on her she's a great tank!
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Don't try Rayon dry hit city...
 
Hi all. Ive been running my SM22 for a while now, although I love it, I would like to try something else. Any suggestions? It must be a 22mm as I only have a 22mm mod and overhang makes me nuts. I would have loved to get the SM25, but finances doesnt allow me to get a 25mm mod
 
mots01 said:
Also getting a bit of air lock and muted taste on serpent mini 25.
Chatted to big guy who said my coil is too low.
Bubbles when I open the top cap and flavour increases.
Will try moving the coil up and post

Sent from my SM-N910C using Tapatalk
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You could Also try to thin out your cotton a bit.. are you getting dry hits?
 
Dont know if its just me, but ive been using twisted kanthal on my SM for a long time, but found that pain old 24g kanthal just gives so much more flavour. The twisted does produce more clouds, but im more into flavour than clouds
 
SmokeyJoe said:
Dont know if its just me, but ive been using twisted kanthal on my SM for a long time, but found that pain old 24g kanthal just gives so much more flavour. The twisted does produce more clouds, but im more into flavour than clouds
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Twisted 24g? Single coil?
 
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