To mesh or not to mesh... a vapers question

[Timwis]

I high Nic low W the Gemm25 pod of .ohm5 too. Epic flavour on restricted DL and I also MTL the .5 pod its good both ways

The hotter e-liquid gets the more the flavour suffers, yes mesh heats up very quickly and gets very hot but it means it needs lower wattage and where it has the advantage although it heats very quickly it cools in an instant so the e-liquid it'self in the tank stays cooler and keeps it flavour.

Another ingredient for flavour is surface area of the heating element and mesh just has so much more surface area than a traditional wire coil. Also if you look inside a commercial mesh coil now the mesh isn't mesh as we once knew it but more and more metal is on show as they go for even more surface area some manufactures like Innokin even both serrate and laser edge the edging of the mesh to increase the surface area still further.

These new wicking materials championed by Freemax and Horizontech, using things like wood pulp and Flax mixed with cotton and the latest Tea Fiber just seem to give less if any taste so you get a purer taste of your e-liquid, the other added benefit is they seem to hold the liquid much better so much less leaking!

 

[Hooked]

I agree with your remarks. Only my Beest RTA is still in use. Most of my RDA's are gathering dust. Mystique 1.5Ohm disposable tanks are amazing. I never thought that I would be able to admit this. I have two RTAs which only take replaceable mesh coils. I won them in competitions (thanks @Hooked ). They were both amazing but the coils alone are double the price of the Mystique tanks.

It's great that you won @Puff the Magic Dragon but the price of the coils is not so great. What a pity!

By the way, the Mystique disposable tank has a 0.15ohm coil, not 1.5ohm. I also use them and I agree that they're amazing. The flavour is superb - I just hate the size. 3ml is too small and I'm constantly refilling!!

 

[Puff the Magic Dragon]

Typo. It just proves that I am human after all.

 

[Timwis]

It's great that you won @Puff the Magic Dragon but the price of the coils is not so great. What a pity!

By the way, the Mystique disposable tank ha
Don't know what the filling method is on the Mystique but the new Gemm Pod (which isn't a pod) only holds 2ml. The fill method is a bung up top with a very easy to get hold of flap it takes a second to lift up to reveal a very generous fill port that can be filled mess free in a couple of seconds so it takes less than 5 seconds and no effort to fill, i can only think i would have an issue if i was bone idol!

It's great that you won @Puff the Magic Dragon but the price of the coils is not so great. What a pity!

By the way, the Mystique disposable tank has a 0.15ohm coil, not 1.5ohm. I also use them and I agree that they're amazing. The flavour is superb - I just hate the size. 3ml is too small and I'm constantly refilling!!

Is it not top-fill just via an easy access bung like the Freemax tanks? The Freemax new Gemm pod tanks are only 2ml but filling is that quick and easy it would seem incredibly lazy to have issues about filling often, it takes 5 seconds!

 

[Hooked]

Is it not top-fill just via an easy access bung like the Freemax tanks? The Freemax new Gemm pod tanks are only 2ml but filling is that quick and easy it would seem incredibly lazy to have issues about filling often, it takes 5 seconds!

@Timwis It's not "incredibly lazy" it's incredibly annoying. I vape a lot and I can go through a 3ml tank in half an hour. Do I want to refill every half an hour. No.

 

[Hooked]

Typo. It just proves that I am human after all.

Relieved to hear that @Puff the Magic Dragon. Here I was thinking that you're a bot!

 

[Timwis]

@Timwis It's not "incredibly lazy" it's incredibly annoying. I vape a lot and I can go through a 3ml tank in half an hour. Do I want to refill every half an hour. No.

I take it the Mystique also has an incredibly quick top-fill method then by that response!

 

[DougP]

Howsit all, recently got me some mesh atties, all profile rdas and rta, firstly... Have no idea why i waited so long. Ive been getting oodles of flavour and love the cooler experience every now and then.

I think my wicking isnt that bad but any tips to better it or advice on which reviewers video shoukd i watch for the unity rta would be greatly appreciated. I get mad flavour for about 3 tanks and then either leak city after the third or a a moerse dry hit on my 3rd or 4th tank. I dont understand why but its happening.

Thanks in advance.

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[Silver]

I take it the Mystique also has an incredibly quick top-fill method then by that response!

Mystique does empty very quickly
I don’t mind at all if I am at my vape cave at home but when out and about I find it an inconvenience
Oh and I have lost that little rubber cap on the Mystique before. Lol. I was trying to fill in a hotel room and it just disappeared. Was looking everywhere for it. Lol

 

[Resistance]

Howsit all, recently got me some mesh atties, all profile rdas and rta, firstly... Have no idea why i waited so long. Ive been getting oodles of flavour and love the cooler experience every now and then.

I think my wicking isnt that bad but any tips to better it or advice on which reviewers video shoukd i watch for the unity rta would be greatly appreciated. I get mad flavour for about 3 tanks and then either leak city after the third or a a moerse dry hit on my 3rd or 4th tank. I dont understand why but its happening.

Thanks in advance.

Pack enough cotton to cover the mesh coil. Too little and you get dry hits or burns and a little to much can give you dry hits. The leaking might be the cotton is just enough to start out with. You need a bit extra to keep the wick saturated or the ports from taking in air.

 

[Resistance]

Mystique does empty very quickly
I don’t mind at all if I am at my vape cave at home but when out and about I find it an inconvenience
Oh and I have lost that little rubber cap on the Mystique before. Lol. I was trying to fill in a hotel room and it just disappeared. Was looking everywhere for it. Lol

Next time keep a spare in your wallet for emergencies.

 

[Silver]

Next time keep a spare in your wallet for emergencies.

I ended up just opening another Mystique tank, I had a pack of them, but it irritated me so much at the time.

Next morning I found the rubber seal - it was right in front of me on the little table I was pitstopping on. I just couldn’t see it because of the night and the colour, it was camouflaged!!



#problemsonlyVaperswouldUnderstand

 

[Resistance]

Howsit all, recently got me some mesh atties, all profile rdas and rta, firstly... Have no idea why i waited so long. Ive been getting oodles of flavour and love the cooler experience every now and then.

I think my wicking isnt that bad but any tips to better it or advice on which reviewers video shoukd i watch for the unity rta would be greatly appreciated. I get mad flavour for about 3 tanks and then either leak city after the third or a a moerse dry hit on my 3rd or 4th tank. I dont understand why but its happening.

Thanks in advance.

See @Blends Of Distinction 's post on the first page of this thread

 

[Timwis]

Mystique does empty very quickly
I don’t mind at all if I am at my vape cave at home but when out and about I find it an inconvenience
Oh and I have lost that little rubber cap on the Mystique before. Lol. I was trying to fill in a hotel room and it just disappeared. Was looking everywhere for it. Lol

I don't have the Mystique that's why i asked about the fill method, with the Gemm the bung stays securely attached to the tank! Humans including myself have become very lazy!

 

[Resistance]

I don't have the Mystique that's why i asked about the fill method, with the Gemm the bung stays securely attached to the tank! Humans including myself have become very lazy!

 

[Timwis]

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Lol, i edited. I initially put bone idol!

 

[Hooked]

I take it the Mystique also has an incredibly quick top-fill method then by that response!

Yes, same as the Freemax.

 

[Timwis]

Yes, same as the Freemax.

The new Freemax tanks are only 2ml but are suited to lower wattage's so the liquid lasts longer especially with the 1.0ohm coil, still needs filling often.

 

[Puff the Magic Dragon]

I am also keen on conserving energy (a bit of an expert if the truth must be told) but the constant filling allows me to change flavour more frequently which I like.

I have also lost a couple of the fill-hole bungs. I guess that they end up on the sock and pen island.

In my opinion, these are the negatives of the Mystique tanks :

- Small tank

- drinks more than Frank Sinatra

- Fill port bung goes walkabout and is difficult to remove if you have short nails and fat fingers

- Difficult to see the juice level in the darker ones.

- allegedly responsible for global warming

The list of pros would be so long however that I must rely on my condition cited in my opening line by not attempting to list them.

 

[Hooked]

I am also keen on conserving energy (a bit of an expert if the truth must be told) but the constant filling allows me to change flavour more frequently which I like.

I have also lost a couple of the fill-hole bungs. I guess that they end up on the sock and pen island.

In my opinion, these are the negatives of the Mystique tanks :

- Small tank

- drinks more than Frank Sinatra

- Fill port bung goes walkabout and is difficult to remove if you have short nails and fat fingers

- Difficult to see the juice level in the darker ones.

- allegedly responsible for global warming

The list of pros would be so long however that I must rely on my condition cited in my opening line by not attempting to list them.

@Puff the Magic Dragon Agree with all that you said. I use the black tank during the day only.

The little silicon stoppers do tend to fly away, which is why there are 3 extra ones in the box (box of 3 tanks).
Unfortunately there are some vendors who sell single tanks only, which is a rip-off, because firstly you don't get the extra stopper with a single tanks and, secondly, they charge R70 per tank, as compared to R180 per box of 3 from other ethical vendors.
This kind of thing makes me so angry.

It's fine to offer the consumer a choice of either a single tank or a box of 3, but when ONLY single tanks are sold it's a rip-off.

 

[Hooked]

The new Freemax tanks are only 2ml but are suited to lower wattage's so the liquid lasts longer especially with the 1.0ohm coil, still needs filling often.

@Timwis I prefer sub-ohm, but I've tried Freemax (I think it was 1.5ohm?) and I must say I was impressed. They're not available in SA though, which is a pity. I might well import some.

 

[Puff the Magic Dragon]

as compared to R180 per box of 3 from other ethical vendors

Or you can buy them from an even more ethical vendor for R 130 per pack of three.

 

[Timwis]

@Puff the Magic Dragon Agree with all that you said. I use the black tank during the day only.

The little silicon stoppers do tend to fly away, which is why there are 3 extra ones in the box (box of 3 tanks).
Unfortunately there are some vendors who sell single tanks only, which is a rip-off, because firstly you don't get the extra stopper with a single tanks and, secondly, they charge R70 per tank, as compared to R180 per box of 3 from other ethical vendors.
This kind of thing makes me so angry.

It's fine to offer the consumer a choice of either a single tank or a box of 3, but when ONLY single tanks are sold it's a rip-off.

Buy single tins of beans and it works out dearer per can than buying a four pack, buy a single bar of soap and it costs more per bar than buying a multipack. I could list every item that is ever sold and it has always been how consumerism has always worked! Some people might really need a tank but don't have R180 but only have R90 so having the R70 for one tank is a good option and it's never going to be as cheap per tank as buying a pack of 3. The single tank isn't a rip off but the other way round the 3 pack is a saving, if they were going to charge R60 for a single they wouldn't even bother selling them in packs of 3!

 

[Hooked]

Or you can buy them from an even more ethical vendor for R 130 per pack of three.

@Puff the Magic Dragon Where?? Do tell!