Tonight's (9Dec) News

[stevie g]

I had a girl this weekend piss on my batteries. She's a friend of the gf so I had to entertain her and some friends for supper.

I had to sit and endure her criticism in my own house on how harmful vaping is. According to her doctor it's better to smoke cigarettes and vaping has a lot of chemicals. So I asked for her doctors contact number but wasn't given anything.

I eventually decided that enough was enough and declared that my entire house and yard is a non-smoking zone and if you want to light up the please help yourself and f-off onto the roadside.

lol sounds like my mom, she hates vaping but smokes 20 a day. Fear of new things imo.

I went to my company's on site doctor 2 weeks back and she was very supportive of electronic cigarettes vs tobacco.nThis from a women in her late 50s. And for the record even though I'm an asthmatic my lungs' peak flow rate has improved drastically since quitting cancer sticks, it's better than most non smokers.

 

[shaunnadan]

Ohhh I have seen them in the one bottle store by me. Seriously primary school ?

Yup !

Told her that those R80 disposables are not safe and I haven't seen a nic free one. They very cheap and have cheap liquids in them. I wouldn't personally use them so I wound never recommend anyone to use them.

 

[shaunnadan]

lol sounds like my mom, she hates vaping but smokes 20 a day. Fear of new things imo.

I went to my company's on site doctor 2 weeks back and she was very supportive of electronic cigarettes vs tobacco.nThis from a women in her late 50s. And for the record even though I'm an asthmatic my lungs' peak flow rate has improved drastically since quitting cancer sticks, it's better than most non smokers.

I can walk up 7 flights of stairs each morning and not feel like I'm going to die when I get to my office ! That's proof enough for me that it's working

 

[blujeenz]

If it was just plain old ignorance it would be fine, easily sorted with info/research/knowledge etc, but alas its largely dogmatic opinionated ignorance, much harder to resolve.

Here's an example of what Im talking about, this comment from a SA citizen in one of those media posts Alex posted.
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/The-vapers-have-spoken-20141017

While another doesn't even want you to smoke your e-cig outside

"I get frustrated when people smoke these in non smoking areas, there are still fumes that i dont want to inhale, please be considerate and go to a smoking area. With all due respect, your habit / addiction is not my problem, I dont pick my nose or fart in your space, please dont vape in mine."

Can you blinking believe it? vape=nosepick=fart and all this time Ive been lifting one bum cheek ever so slightly, trying to fart quietly.
Stuff that mate, no more of that silencer nonsense, I might evens poke a hole in moi undies for some "cloud blowing" challenges (cotton undies will be too much wick, the way I see it).
Even now Im pondering what kind of "fumes" nosepicking might release.

 

[Casper]

E-cig conference in PTA ???

Are you guys thinking what I'm thinking ..... Time for a cloud chasing Vape meet !!!

Fully agreed!!!!

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[BrizzyZA (VapeLife)]

The "story" smokers give me at work when I try to convert them is, "Your vape is the same as my cigarette"... Really?

Then when I try to educate them it's like speaking to a rock. People jst believe all the propaganda on the internet. I can personally tell you that vaping gets you off cigs and makes you feel 100 times better because I used to smoke 5 cigs a day and as soon as I got my vape I smoked 0.

I'm sure if the FDA approves our product people will stop having this false stigma about vaping

 

[Pixstar]

Hi guys

The issue of vaping potentially being a gateway to smoking is one of the approaches the anti-vaping groups use to fight against vaping.

I can't recall where (@Alex, maybe you can help) but there have been studies already done that show that vaping has NOT led to mass smoking. It may still be early days, but the surveys that have been done have showed that.

On the issue of vaping being very bad for you (@Pixstar) - perhaps the best thing to quote to naysayers is that an independent expert review published by Public HealthCare England (PHE) concluded that vaping is about 95% safer than smoking. So its not perfectly safe but its WAY, WAY safer than smoking.

Here is the link to that:
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/...armful-than-tobacco-estimates-landmark-review

Yeah I always mention the 95% safer fact, my trump card. It doesn't help with the not so bright smokers. I even speak about the good Dr.Faustino's fight to tell the truth and expose the lies...the frustration is that 'they' choose to read about or listen to only the 'negative' stories.
Thanks for the links, I plan to put together a business card sized reference card that I will just hand out to the ignorant, it's easier that way.

 

[Yagya]

I have recently been admitted to hospital due to high stress and chest pains.
Been for ECG, chest xrays, lotsa blood tests and the treadmill test.
I passed all these tests with flying colours, lungs and kidneys was clear.
After all this i told 2 doctors, the cardiologist and the other 1 that i have been vaping for the past 6 months after stinkies for over 30yrs.
They could not believe this and had nothing bad to say about vaping.
This for me was a big plus for my new hobby...

 

[Andre]

Yeah I always mention the 95% safer fact, my trump card. It doesn't help with the not so bright smokers. I even speak about the good Dr.Faustino's fight to tell the truth and expose the lies...the frustration is that 'they' choose to read about or listen to only the 'negative' stories.
Thanks for the links, I plan to put together a business card sized reference card that I will just hand out to the ignorant, it's easier that way.

Great stuff. Please publish it in a new thread here to so we can also use it please.

 

[Cruzz_33]

I being very young compared to most vapers and being almost of the age group defined in these absurd remarks can honestly say it's a load of BS. I smoked hookah and stinkies from the age of 15! At the age of 18 I started vaping and well all I can say is I want to get sick when smelling stinkies or hookah never mind smoking them.

 

[Pixstar]

Great stuff. Please publish it in a new thread here to so we can also use it please.

Perhaps guys on here can assist with putting together a bullet point list of facts and the lies...?

 

[GlacieredPyro]

Can't we as a community approach these media outlets for right of reply?

Like @Pixstar said, we need to have the information, studies and facts ready.
If these articles pop up we request right of reply and hit them with some truth.