Don't get me wrong, I'm not happy about this piece of regulation, I'm just saying the industry could have been helped by it IF it had been done right, which it hasn't.
USA FDA Deeming Regs published.
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The public can buck regulations. A la Al Capone. But what the public thinks is irrelevant to the implementation of strict regulation and taxation. What happens after that is moot.
My statement was that what the public thinks of vaping and vapers have no impact on laws. Money drives that.
This is about Big Tabacco and governments losing great amounts of money. Everything else is but a smokescreen. Tepid regulation would never have satisfied these two players.
Let's hope the USA opposition takes this up as an electioneering point ..
Keep in mind these regulations are pertinent to products sold in three years time. Whatever is purchased in between is not affected e.g. it does not give anyone the right to take anything away from you purchased before the 'go-live' date.
The short term impact is that this will likely cause a feeding frenzy on vape related items in the land of the freely corrupt and not so brave. A massive uptake in demand normally leads to fast escalating prices but luckily we have no real need to import e-liquids since the local e-liquid quality now equals and often surpasses the best the international market has to offer.
On the hardware front the Chinese, unlike their western counterparts, understand the reality of the "people ARE the economy" principle and do not generally believe in limiting supply to escalate prices and increase margin but will rather ramp up production to meet demand. This, in turn, will keep prices steady and, very likely, will even drive pricing down.
In the longer term, to take a somewhat positive outlook, e-liquids will be tested based on the ingredients and in short order a good selection of flavourings etc. will be 'FDA' approved and, in time, remove a large burden for future entrants into the market.
The vape giants like KangerTech and the Joyetech conglomerate should easily be able to conform but it will probably lead to less frequent product releases e.g. swop a bit of R&D budget for FDA approval budget. Again these products are the sum of parts and it is rather likely that quite a few vaping electronics manufacturers will also set about having their components 'FDA approved' providing a base of approved parts for use in future developments. That is IF they face fair scrutiny in the process ... one wonders however if 'parties unrelated' will have undue influence in this process as well...
Do not underestimate the buying power of the vaping market, nor the explosion in size this legislation will cause in the near future. As such we can certainly rely on good old capitalist greed to ensure that many more than just the tobacco companies will bet a few dollars on the future of vaping...
Keep in mind these regulations are pertinent to products sold in three years time. Whatever is purchased in between is not affected e.g. it does not give anyone the right to take anything away from you purchased before the 'go-live' date.
The short term impact is that this will likely cause a feeding frenzy on vape related items in the land of the freely corrupt and not so brave. A massive uptake in demand normally leads to fast escalating prices but luckily we have no real need to import e-liquids since the local e-liquid quality now equals and often surpasses the best the international market has to offer.
On the hardware front the Chinese, unlike their western counterparts, understand the reality of the "people ARE the economy" principle and do not generally believe in limiting supply to escalate prices and increase margin but will rather ramp up production to meet demand. This, in turn, will keep prices steady and, very likely, will even drive pricing down.
In the longer term, to take a somewhat positive outlook, e-liquids will be tested based on the ingredients and in short order a good selection of flavourings etc. will be 'FDA' approved and, in time, remove a large burden for future entrants into the market.
The vape giants like KangerTech and the Joyetech conglomerate should easily be able to conform but it will probably lead to less frequent product releases e.g. swop a bit of R&D budget for FDA approval budget. Again these products are the sum of parts and it is rather likely that quite a few vaping electronics manufacturers will also set about having their components 'FDA approved' providing a base of approved parts for use in future developments. That is IF they face fair scrutiny in the process ... one wonders however if 'parties unrelated' will have undue influence in this process as well...
Do not underestimate the buying power of the vaping market, nor the explosion in size this legislation will cause in the near future. As such we can certainly rely on good old capitalist greed to ensure that many more than just the tobacco companies will bet a few dollars on the future of vaping...
Petition to Whitehouse to overturn the FDA's ruling on Ecigs being classified as tobacco products https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...ing-ecigarette-classification-tobacco-product
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Same here.
done!!
From what I gather, the 90 Day thing is a little deceptive.
As I understand, the industry folk cannot introduce NEW products after 90 days, but it the Grandfather date of 2007 will come into effect 2yrs after. So manufacturers will need to 'certify' their products within that period of two years.
So... nothing major will happen overnight. I think.
As I understand, the industry folk cannot introduce NEW products after 90 days, but it the Grandfather date of 2007 will come into effect 2yrs after. So manufacturers will need to 'certify' their products within that period of two years.
So... nothing major will happen overnight. I think.
Done
Done!!!
Nope. All thats left is to quit. Going to be my route. I was in this to stop cigarettes. I miss them. I will miss vaping too. Buf not going to complicate my life just to vape.
I know whats going on. It js about tax money. Well I am taxed enough already I need to rebel on this one.
Ultimate revenge on the regulators. Stop vaping. Sucks but how I will roll.
World War 2 was started by a single angry man. A small group can do even more. You never know. While there is still a chance I am goinf to be a walking ecigs advertisement.
Guys, we do not fall under the FDA regulations, So am I right in saying, that our local jooses does not need to meet all the requirements except those being exported?
Correct.
