Vape Apps

[johan]

See my last 2 brain cells are zipped - Gazzacpt way to fast for me

 

[gorfrepus]

So from those 2 (the spreadsheets not the brain cells) which is more important?

Im guessing the coil calculator?

Just need to know which to attempt first

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[johan]

Definitely go for the coil calculator first @gorfrepus - more people doing coils than mixing

 

[Gazzacpt]

@devdev it might just be that I've zipped my last 2 brain cells. For Android devices there is already a very nice one out for e-juice mixing called: "E-Liquid Calculator"

Just browsed at the right time

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[Reinvanhardt]

Yes the file named "coil calculator" is would be used more than the one called "kanthal calculator"

For your reference, rounded off to the nearest decimal:

1/32' = 0.8mm
1/16' = 1.6mm
5/64' = 2mm
3/32 = 2.4mm
7/64 = 2.8mm
1/8 = 3.2mm
9/64 = 3.6mm

Cool mate!

 

[gorfrepus]

Yes the file named "coil calculator" is would be used more than the one called "kanthal calculator"

For your reference, rounded off to the nearest decimal:

1/32' = 0.8mm
1/16' = 1.6mm
5/64' = 2mm
3/32 = 2.4mm
7/64 = 2.8mm
1/8 = 3.2mm
9/64 = 3.6mm

Cool mate!

Sweet. Dont stress about rounding. I understand the calculations and the code will take care of the rest.

Lets see where this goes...

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[gorfrepus]

Update: have a decent UI built up. Just fine tuning a few noob errors I made.

Code for the wattage, amps, voltage done. Busy with the gauge, bit and ohms code.

This is going better and faster than I thought. Seems I might have learnt something after all

Stay tuned...

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[gorfrepus]

Quick question. Can someone let me know what the most likely range for the number of wraps would be?

So for example, I doubt it would be helpful for the app to allow using '1 wrap'. Im guessing theres some sort of minimum and maximum wraps? (Excluding insane people who want to make 50 wraps lol)

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[devdev]

Umm I think 2 wraps would be the absolute minimum limit. A 12ohm coil would need 0.4m of 32g Kanthal and 101 wraps. I think half of that would be feasible, and even then, the build would be stupid beyond belief

 

[Reinvanhardt]

Quick question. Can someone let me know what the most likely range for the number of wraps would be?

So for example, I doubt it would be helpful for the app to allow using '1 wrap'. Im guessing theres some sort of minimum and maximum wraps? (Excluding insane people who want to make 50 wraps lol)

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I would say 5 to 12 wraps is within the majority's range. 4 to 14 would be even better if you can accommodate that.

 

[Zeki Hilmi]

@Rob Fisher Please let me know what the app is that you kept Rob... Android is the only system that has a Vape Toolbox

 

[gorfrepus]

Ok im sure I can accomodate 4 to 14. Should I try for 3 to 15?

The reason for figuring this out is that im building something cool into to the UI that relates to it. The higher the possible wraps, the more work is required

Also, just fyi, in case anyone missed it im building this for android. I dont develop for iPhone so not sure if ill be able to port onto ios or windows mobile. Hope thats ok...

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[Rob Fisher]

@Rob Fisher Please let me know what the app is that you kept Rob... Android is the only system that has a Vape Toolbox

It's called iVape and it looks pretty comprehensive and does ejuice, Ohms and voltage conversions etc...

 

[Zeki Hilmi]

@Rob Fisher Downloading it now

 

[Reinvanhardt]

Ok im sure I can accomodate 4 to 14. Should I try for 3 to 15?

The reason for figuring this out is that im building something cool into to the UI that relates to it. The higher the possible wraps, the more work is required

Also, just fyi, in case anyone missed it im building this for android. I dont develop for iPhone so not sure if ill be able to port onto ios or windows mobile. Hope thats ok...

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Mmm... 3 - 15 has a nice ring to it (15:15). So yes, go for it.

 

[devdev]

@gorfrepus I think 30 is better.

If I am making a 1.5 Ohm dual coil, then I would need two 3.0 Ohm coils.

At 30g 1mm internal diameter I would need to make 21 wraps to get 3.0 ohms

 

[gorfrepus]

@gorfrepus I think 30 is better.

If I am making a 1.5 Ohm dual coil, then I would need two 3.0 Ohm coils.

At 30g 1mm internal diameter I would need to make 21 wraps to get 3.0 ohms

Thanks for that input @devdev

I never even thought about dual coils. Might just tweak something to offer a choice of single or double... some more work to be done here. Let me see what I can do.

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[devdev]

Go download Vaper's Toolbox in Android store.

That has a drop down for multi coil builds. The program just tells you to make 2 coils at XX length

 

[gorfrepus]

Ok so I just checked out vapers toolbox and its very functional. Just wondering iglf im missing something here...what is it the vapers toolbox doesnt do for you guys? Cos it seems like we're reinventing the wheel here...

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[devdev]

Oh crapstix. I just realised that the link on the first page of this thread, the one to elsewhere on the forum, was not to the Vape Apps thread, I see now that it was about coil building as an introduction.

I thought it was this one (It's a sticky in Modder's Paradise)

http://www.ecigssa.co.za/threads/android-app-for-coil-builders.630/


All is not lost though - I don't like Vaper's toolbox that much.

It does put out correct info, but the interface is rubbish, and I hate having to scroll across 4 screens to get to all the info I need.

Also the flow for coil building is wrong. It starts with the wire length screen - it should start with the power screen, as to me, the coil building starts with your targeted ohms.

An app that showed you the various ways to get to 1.2 ohms (if that is your target resistance) would be awesome:

eg. 66mm of 28g, 42mm of 30g, 26mm of 32g etc

That way you could at a glance conceptualise your build, based on target resistance. After selecting which size Kanthal you wanted to use, it would then ask you for the internal diameter, and then give you the number of wraps you need

 

[gorfrepus]

All very good points. So its in improving the delivery of the info.

The UI I was working on is quite different to vapers toolbox. It currently has all on one screen in a very visual way ratger than a textual way.

I like the idea about suggesting possible combos to attain desired resistance. Will work towards that.

Gonna try post my UI mockup soon as it's complete to get some feedback...

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[devdev]

Ok cool, glad that all your time isn't going to be wasted. My apologies for assuming that you already knew about Vaper's toolbox and still wanted the challenge of doing this. Time is so valuable.

Some other ideas - just chucking them out there.

If the app had an advanced mode that would be pretty cool - So if you could tell it what kanthal you had then it would only make recommendations based on that. So the idea I mentioned in the post above, showing the different ways to get that resistance, even though you get 25,26,27,28,29,30 etc. kanthal, it would be cool if you could just tick what you have on a settings/advanced screen, and then it would only show you those options

Also, maybe a coil building database - thinking that if you listed all of RipTrippers video's - with click through links to play on the youtube app that would be pretty cool.

I would probably be up for the challenge of making a list of all of them

 

[gorfrepus]

Lol I feel like im reading greek now (and thats a bold statement from someone who looks at java code in their spare time)

Haha, I'll get there though. Just need a few days to research and wrap my head around the new info.

Right now though, its time to flip through box office and watch a movie. Thinking insidious 2 might be a good choice. G'night people

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[gorfrepus]

Ok so I've worked out a way to do this but I need to iron out a few wrinkles first.

If all works out the app will alllow you to xhoose the wire you have and give the possible combinations of diameters and wraps that get you approximately to your target resistance.

Do you guys want it only for the kanthal a1 wire like in the spreadsheet? Or do you want other wire types too? If so ill need the resistance values for the other wire types...

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[johan]

I suggest stick to Kanthal A1 as very few if any that I know of uses nichrome etc.