Ok I will give it a try.I was in the same boat, hated "tobacco" flavours, things have certainly changed. Shipwrecked is one of my favourites now and is in my permanent rotation. I initially didn't like Cumarin Pipe, I put my first tank right back in the bottle, I gave it a second chance a few weeks later and fell in love with it. It's quite strong at first but once you get used it really grows on you. So basically what I'm saying is don't write the tobacco juices off just yet