VapeDIY by All Day Vapes Launch Competition - Mystery Prize

Hooked said:
We've become a throw-away society. Hole in your sock? Darn it? Not anymore - throw them away and buy a new pair.

I think of my Dad, who firmly believed in buying quality; save up for it if you can't afford it right now - and take very good care of it when you get it. In the end it didn't help him, because he was stuck with gadgets which he'd had for years and finally needed replacement of parts, which were no longer available!
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On the other hand, the food I ate didn't contain all the crap it does today. The dishwasher etc I bought is still going 20 years down the line. Sure it was almost twice as expensive, but the cheaper one would've maybe lasted 5 years.

When it comes to stuff you consume, be it food or juice, quality is of paramount importance if you value your health. And your tastebuds.
 
YeOldeOke said:
@ARYANTO Yup, those are traditional Chinese products - cheap, not meant to last much past the traders door. Throwaway items.

You do get some of those small things that may last about 6 mths to a year. At the price one cannot really expect much more than that.

We have abandoned the quality at a reasonable price philosophy here in SA, well mostly worldwide. We want cheap, and forget that it inevitably means crap.

It's difficult to try and promote quality at fair price in business these days. Most customers want cheap, period.

There are a few scales available on Fasttech etc that are not too bad. If I try and sell scales like we use, it'd gather dust on the shelves as people race to cheap. Doesn't work in today's environment.

The consumer drives what business offer, many don't seem to realise this. Very few people care about ads re quality, that's regarded as a quaint, aged concept. It's all about the $.
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Mine has been going strong for 2 years. Checked it with control weights and accurate to the second decimal.

Suppose its just luck with cheapy models.
 
To get this thread back on track, everything evolves, or should. We want to move forward not backward.

So primal DIY is evolving into a more modern state with kits. Makes sense. It reduces the learning curve and saves a lot of time and cost (and mess, and wastage), sweeps most of the discrete components required for DIY off the table. Better, quicker results at lower overall cost.

But where's the line, the extreme. At what point does DIY stop being DIY? As a business wanting to serve the DIY community, where do I draw the line?
 
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YeOldeOke said:
To get this thread back on track, everything evolves, or should. We want to move forward not backward.

So primal DIY is evolving into a more modern state with kits. Makes sense. It reduces the learning curve and saves a lot of time and cost (and mess, and wastage), sweeps most of the discrete components required for DIY off the table. Better, quicker results at lower overall cost.

But where's the line, the extreme. At what point does DIY stop being DIY? As a business wanting to serve the DIY community, where do I draw the line?
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@YeOldeOke , I think everyone’s definition of DIY will differ, for some it will be where you retreat to your dungeon and start your mad experiments, and for others wondering how a combo of commercial juice A and juice B will taste, or up the nic, or add Menthol. And with the difference with regards to taste thrown into the equation it complicates it even further. I think DIY should be doing what works for you!

I started with a hell of a lot of flavors and illusions of grandeur with the juices I was going to develop customized to my palate, and virtually ended in tears when I had to dump expired concentrates because life intervened in the process. For me DIY now is to mix those recipes that have become staples, and the odd new one when it really looks interesting, and I have the concentrates needed without having to get 20 new concentrates. Eliminating the waste would have been a winner when I started, so any improvement in this would be great.

One shots have become my go to in a lot of cases, and actually saved me a lot of time and money, so servings the DIY community should in my opinion be to offer as much as possible to help those starting out with DIY without having to change the whole business, especially for those just wanting to save a bit on commercial juice costs, and to note that diy can actually cost you more. Kits and one shots is the future of DIY in my opinion, so do as much as you can do, which may be less than what you actually want to do. I will still be buying concentrates, but now it’s more to make my own one shots for the staples, instead of trying to develop.
 
Fantastic new site and prices @YeOldeOke . I will support you, as I have done for a number of years. The debates above are intriguing and sheds new light on this passion we all share and what the future holds. I think we sometimes loose focus on why we do what we do and want to over-complicate things. We DIY because we are able to create flavour profiles we like/prefer at a good price by using well sourced quality ingredients form reputable manufacturers. Simple.

I suggest the new 'special' product is the option for mixers to order custom one shots based on recipes they have which may contain obscure ingredients, ie custom off-site/virtual mixing station.

My second guess is a DIY kit of sorts which includes all the basic essentials, pre-mixes, nic, gloves, bottles, scale, etc etc.

Good luck with the new venture!
 
There are some base products we have already been working on that is similar to some suggestions, they will be added very soon.
 
Bases are now available on site!

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Update:
We have removed the Chubby Gorilla bottle option from the 100ml product because the top fits very tightly into the bottle. It can be removed to add flavouring, but you are going battle a bit to do it and that's not good IMHO.
 
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The bases were already in the works before this thread was started btw.

The problem with a custom mixing service for customers' recipes is that we will have to carry virtually every discrete flavour concentrate under the sun. As we don't want to get back into that overtraded market it will not be a viable proposition.
 
The product we will be announcing soon IS a kit, the ultimate kit :D made available only to forum members for a limited time.
 
Do I need a white coat?
TonySC said:
Won't a lot of members already have some or even most of such a kit?
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I DIY and I don't have one. Whenever I want to get one, I need something else so I never got the white lab coat yet:risas3:
 
Our One Shots are formulated at 10% and a few at 20% for ease of mixing. The 100ml base also has a short fill 10% or 20% option. This means you can simply empty the One Shot into the base then the resultant juice will be at the selected ratio and nic strength.

No measuring, weighing or mucking about necessary.
 
YeOldeOke said:
Our One Shots are formulated at 10% and a few at 20% for ease of mixing. The 100ml base also has a short fill 10% or 20% option. This means you can simply empty the One Shot into the base then the resultant juice will be at the selected ratio and nic strength.

No measuring, weighing or mucking about necessary.
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No need for the coat,:nod: bummer:nono:
 
Then the only other thing would be free delivery for a while.
 
YeOldeOke said:
In the old days you didn't need these fancy white coat and latex gloves.

You needed a hazmat suit for the pure nic :D
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I have never taken note of the warnings but noticed my skin burn for a full three days after a slight mishap.
So now I take more care handling NIC.
 
The above bases are available in both freebase and nic salts btw.
 
Okie Dokie.

Nobody is coming close enuff I'm afraid :( The pic was a clue, not just a random post :facepalm:

Last chance, we will be announcing the offer at 13:00 :cheer:
 
OK, here's the DIY Kit-in-a-bottle.

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5 x 100ml bases
Your choice of nicotine (freebase or nic salts) (Nic strength of your choice 0mg - 30mg)
Base ratio of your choice
5 one shot flavours of your choice
Bottles of your choice
All in 5 x 100ml bottles
Not shaken - DIY

Special offer only to ecigssa members R399 + the nic you use.

For a link please PM me.
 
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