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Vaping may deposit bacteria in the mouth that can breed infection, tooth decay, and even oral cancer
https://www.businessinsider.co.za/vaping-linked-to-bad-breath-tooth-decay-oral-cancer-study-2020-2
27 Feb. 2020

"... a new study suggests that vaping could also be detrimental to oral health and breed tooth decay, smelly breath, infection, and even oral cancer.

The study, which comes from researchers at NYU's College of Dentistry and was published in the journal iScience, found that the aerosol users inhale when vaping from e-cigarettes deposits high levels of bad bacteria into the mouth, therefore disrupting a person's oral microbiome and upping the risk of developing infection or disease.

To investigate, lead researcher Deepak Saxena, a professor of basic science and craniofacial biology at NYU, and his team took saliva samples from 39 healthy non-smokers, 40 e-cigarette users, and 40 traditional cigarette users.

On average, e-cigarette users vaped half an e-cigarette daily and traditional smokers had 11 cigarettes daily.

Saxena and his team then used DNA-sequencing technology to determine the bacterial content of the participants' saliva, and they found that e-cigarette users had higher levels of molecules in their saliva that make a person susceptible to oral inflammation and infection than the non-smokers.

When e-cigarette users were compared to traditional smokers, Saxena told Insider the results surprised him because their saliva bacterial levels were almost as high as the bacteria levels of smokers.

This findings goes against previous thinking that e-cigarettes are a safer alternative to smoking.

"E-cigarettes are a pretty new product as compared to traditional cigarettes, and still they can influence the oral micro environment," which can lead to larger health problems like cavities, oral infections, bad breath, and oral cancer, Saxena told Insider.

Chronic oral health problems have been liked to diseases like Alzheimer's and diabetes
Saxena's study focused on the oral health implications of e-cigarette use, but untreated oral conditions can also have an effect on other areas of the body.

People who have untreated or chronic cavities, for example, are more likely to develop full-body conditions like Alzheimer's, type 2 diabetes, and cardiovascular disease, Saxena said.

According to the Mayo Clinic, poor oral health increases a person's risk of pneumonia and premature birth or low birth weight in pregnant women because the bacterial overgrowths in the mouth affect other areas of the body like the heart and lungs.

For this reason, Saxena advised current e-cigarette users to wean themselves off their devices and that traditional smokers who are considering e-cigarettes for cessation work with a doctor who can help them reduce the nicotine concentration they consume on a weekly or monthly basis. That way, they won't become dependent on the device.

There were caveats to the study. The control groups were fairly small and Saxena's team only look at unflavoured e-cigarette vapor, so their results may not encompass the oral health of the general population. For that reason, Saxena said he'd like to do more research on how various vape flavour agents affect oral health.

Vaping can also cause bacterial infections in the lungs
Previous research has also suggested the e-cigarettes aren't a safer alternative to traditional cigarettes.

A December 2019 study in the journal Respiratory Research, suggested vaping is just as bad for a person's lung health as traditional smoking when it comes to lung-disease risk.

To come to their conclusion, the new study's researchers exposed four different strains of lung bacteria to cigarette smoke from Marlboro Red cigarettes and unflavoured vapor from a Vapourlite brand vape. They found that both the smoke and the vapor caused the bacteria to grow more than bacteria samples that weren't exposed to vapor or smoke.

The findings are concerning because when the bacterial strains the researchers studied, H. influenzae, S. aureus, S. pneumoniae, and P. aeruginosa, build up in the lungs, they can lead to increased lung inflammation, decreased lung function, and chronic lung disease risk that makes breathing difficult. In the worst case, chronic lung damage can lead to hospitalisation and the need for a ventilator to help a person breathe.

"At the very least, this work should open a frank debate on vaping safety," Jose Bengoechea, director of the Wellcome-Wolfson Institute for Experimental Medicine and co-author of the study, said in a press release.
 
This is what I like, ""At the very least, this work should open a frank debate on vaping safety," Jose Bengoechea, director of the Wellcome-Wolfson Institute for Experimental Medicine and co-author of the study, said in a press release."
 
Really need more details here, what exactly is the unflavoured liquid? Pure PG, VG or a mix and with or without Nic? As far as I know PG is anti-bacterial so this honestly doesn't make much sense. Not saying this is completely wrong but it is very counter-intuitive and needs to be investigated.

If anyone saw the vid of a research student asking Jai Haze for advice then you can get a good idea of how horrible the methodologies in these studies are.
 
Hmmm .... 3 drops of Listerine in your menthol mix may do it.

Advises to wean off the device, so now she is an addiction expert too ?
 
"almost as high as the bacteria levels of smokers" what a surprise when the e-cigarette users actually on average smoked a couple of cigarettes a day and the smokers were on 11 a day rather than heavy smokers. Another useless study when it seems who they picked would cloud the results. Why not e-cigarettes users who no longer smoked and cigarette smokers these people could be easy to find but choosing e-cigarette users that still smoke tells me all i need to know about this study and it's ulterior motives! All these studies mentioned above have been carried out in the UK without any ulterior motive and come to completely different conclusions!
 
Shall we remind them that pg is used as aircon disinfectant?
 
We vape and eat and vape and drink and vape. By the end of the day the driptip must be full of bacteria, yet how many vapers clean their driptips daily? It doesn't help to brush teeth at night, but use yesterday's driptip again the next morning. Could the driptip be the source of infection?

It's simple to clean one's driptip. Just a quick rinse under the tap, or a wipe off with a little alcohol swab.
 
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We vape and eat and vape and drink and vape. By the end of the day the driptip must be full of bacteria, yet how many vapers clean their driptips daily?

I clean my tanks daily which includes the drip tip. I really like a fresh wick and is one of the reasons I have multiple Dvarw DL's... every day is a good and clean and fresh Dvarw!
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I clean my tanks daily which includes the drip tip. I really like a fresh wick and is one of the reasons I have multiple Dvarw DL's... every day is a good and clean and fresh Dvarw!
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@Rob Fisher Cleaning the entire tank daily is truly conscientious and you're only the second person I know who does this.

The other person is someone who uses commercial coils and he cleans the coil too, by wiping the outside clean and blowing hard through the coil, on to a piece of toilet paper, a few times to get rid of excess juice in the coil.

What do you do about juice that is in a tank when you want to clean it? Do you discard it?
 
@Rob Fisher Cleaning the entire tank daily is truly conscientious and you're only the second person I know who does this.

The other person is someone who uses commercial coils and he cleans the coil too, by wiping the outside clean and blowing hard through the coil, on to a piece of toilet paper, a few times to get rid of excess juice in the coil.

What do you do about juice that is in a tank when you want to clean it? Do you discard it?

When I'm ready to clean a few tanks there is a little juice left in each and I do discard it.
 
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