Vaping With Diabetes

@Rob Fisher What is there to dislike about Banting? If you're diabetic, as I am, it's the perfect eating plan.
I think a new thread in Health Matters is called for! Will do it forthwith!!

There are quite a few banting threads in the off topic section I think
 
There are, but alas, very inactive. I'm a Banting veteran and happy to help - especially about Banting Bread @Rob Fisher...;)
BTW, Woolies has a new Banting/Carb clever banting bread, albeit pricey, its the tits!

@Rude Rudi I have tried it... I hate it... my wife keeps buying it but it's just not for me... :confused:
 
@Rude Rudi I have tried it... I hate it... my wife keeps buying it but it's just not for me... :confused:

Can't win 'em all! If you dont like that one then you're screwed...! Checkers has a Banting bread which can be used as a weapon and tastes of ass = the Woolies one is by far the best "commercial" version but I make my own - much easier, tastier and cheaper...
 
Can't win 'em all! If you dont like that one then you're screwed...! Checkers has a Banting bread which can be used as a weapon and tastes of ass = the Woolies one is by far the best "commercial" version but I make my own - much easier, tastier and cheaper...

What I want to know is WTF the banting wraps and pizza have gone from woolworths, those were a life saver for me.
 
Although not diabetic related, I have a son who is a Coeliac. No gluten, otherwise big problem. Dischem bread and rolls for him, still tastes like nothing but toasted it is a bit better, but it's still not "bread" in the true sense. They have a reasonable variety and keep some Banting stuff as well. Supplier is Fresh Earth bakery, and you guessed it, they courier as well, something we are all familiar with.
 
@Hooked I actually like some sweet juices... even Red Pill aka original XXX has some sweetness to it. Nasty Juice Cush is very sweet (Mango) and I do enjoy it... can't vape it all the time but nice for the occasional change. My version of Red Pill is 50/50.

PS Bread, Peas, carrots and rice are my favourite foods. :oops:

@Rob Fisher Of course - we always tend to like the foods we shouldn't eat! I do eat peas and carrots though but not in huge quantities. It's the chocolates which spike my blood sugar - and of course I love chocolates! If I could find an e-juice with a really good chocolate flavour I'd be in my element, but I haven't found it yet.
 
I hate everything banting more than life itself... every banting food taste really crap! I have tried them all. I prefer to eat meat and salad... but I really miss real bread! Banting bread is really really really awful and I simply cannot eat it.

@Rob Fisher I agree about the bread. I've also tried to make Banting biscuits, which are made with almond flour instead of ordinary flour and they were awful!!
 
If in doubt about whether vaping affects blood sugar levels, test your blood sugar before vapin (preferably first thing in the morning, before eating or drinking, wait 2 hours without having anything to eat or drink and test again.
 
Shelf life issues me thinks...the market is not big enough to sustain on a national level = cull the low sellers...
They were good but pricey, which I imagine added to its demise...

Bang on.
My mother worked in product development for Woolworths all her life. There are 2 reasons they'll cut a line. Poor sales and non BEE compliance from their suppliers.
 
OK I can now conclusively say that Vaping doesn't adversely affect a Diabetic. I'm a type 2 Diabetic and recently my blood sugar was out of control and as high as 20 not so long ago... and for those in the know that is not cool. I stopped ALL Carbs and Sugars and that was really hard because I love bread... and within just over a week I have got my sugar levels down to normal... and they haven't been normal for years! And during this time I have vaped quite a lot more because every time I felt like I needed to eat carbs I just chose another vape device and gave it horns.

For the first time in many years I set a new record tonight when testing my blood sugar level... 5.5! Normal is between 4 and 7.

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PS and I have lost 5kg's so far! :)
 
@Rob Fisher Of course - we always tend to like the foods we shouldn't eat! I do eat peas and carrots though but not in huge quantities. It's the chocolates which spike my blood sugar - and of course I love chocolates! If I could find an e-juice with a really good chocolate flavour I'd be in my element, but I haven't found it yet.

Hardwicks chocolate whip ?? Not pure choco flavour but close enough to kill my cravings :p
 
OK I can now conclusively say that Vaping doesn't adversely affect a Diabetic. I'm a type 2 Diabetic and recently my blood sugar was out of control and as high as 20 not so long ago... and for those in the know that is not cool. I stopped ALL Carbs and Sugars and that was really hard because I love bread... and within just over a week I have got my sugar levels down to normal... and they haven't been normal for years! And during this time I have vaped quite a lot more because every time I felt like I needed to eat carbs I just chose another vape device and gave it horns.

For the first time in many years I set a new record tonight when testing my blood sugar level... 5.5! Normal is between 4 and 7.

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PS and I have lost 5kg's so far! :)

That's awesome, @Rob Fisher :campeon: I'm also determined to get my levels down and for the past week I've been a good girl!
 
Congrats @Rob Fisher
That is brilliant!!
Well done
 
OK I can now conclusively say that Vaping doesn't adversely affect a Diabetic. I'm a type 2 Diabetic and recently my blood sugar was out of control and as high as 20 not so long ago... and for those in the know that is not cool. I stopped ALL Carbs and Sugars and that was really hard because I love bread... and within just over a week I have got my sugar levels down to normal... and they haven't been normal for years! And during this time I have vaped quite a lot more because every time I felt like I needed to eat carbs I just chose another vape device and gave it horns.

For the first time in many years I set a new record tonight when testing my blood sugar level... 5.5! Normal is between 4 and 7.

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PS and I have lost 5kg's so far! :)
Way to go, Skipper! Keep it up.
 
I'm type 1 for 35 years this month. I have been getting very high readings lately and kept dodging the question : can it be the vaping. I'm so glad I found this and can carry on.

High levels due to too much work and not eating right :(

And it helps with my sweet cravings... Yay

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I'm type 1 for 35 years this month. I have been getting very high readings lately and kept dodging the question : can it be the vaping. I'm so glad I found this and can carry on.

High levels due to too much work and not eating right :(

And it helps with my sweet cravings... Yay

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Stress.... kills my readings

Stress=cortisol=hyperglycemia
 
I'm type 1 for 35 years this month. I have been getting very high readings lately and kept dodging the question : can it be the vaping. I'm so glad I found this and can carry on.

High levels due to too much work and not eating right :(

And it helps with my sweet cravings... Yay

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@Braki You've recently given up smoking and that could well be the cause of high readings. The body has a lot of adjustment to due now. Many people actually become ill when they stop smoking. I know I did - every time I stopped (I often stopped lol) I would come down with flu. So perhaps the adjustment to not having all those toxins in your body are affecting your glucose levels.

I also don't eat right when I'm stressed - which is when we really DO need to eat right! I think humans are the only beings who deliberately harm themselves!
 
@Braki You've recently given up smoking and that could well be the cause of high readings. The body has a lot of adjustment to due now. Many people actually become ill when they stop smoking. I know I did - every time I stopped (I often stopped lol) I would come down with flu. So perhaps the adjustment to not having all those toxins in your body are affecting your glucose levels.

I also don't eat right when I'm stressed - which is when we really DO need to eat right! I think humans are the only beings who deliberately harm themselves!

I read all the things your body goes through when stopping the stinkies. And its only been two weeks now. So I must probably give it more time. Will just have to test more often and start eating. Have to see the specialist in May again and will probably get a speech from hell, but trying to get it back to normal. I'm glad I'm not only one here with diabetes.
 
There is one main way to reduce one's blood sugar level... exercise plain and simple followed by a carb free diet. I have tested vaping and diabetes many times and it has no apparent effect on my blood sugar level.

Anyone with a high blood sugar reading go for a 3-4km walk and retest your levels and I guarantee a massive drop. I test this every day!

Today's walk/trot - sub 9.5 minutes per KM! Bazinga!
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What I want to know is WTF the banting wraps and pizza have gone from woolworths, those were a life saver for me.
It's easy to make them yourself and you can even freeze them for later if you make a large batch. I once made a pizza base - totally gluten and wheat free - it wasn't even bad, add the toppings and it tasted actually good that you'd go wtf is this sorcery :D
 
There is one main way to reduce one's blood sugar level... exercise plain and simple followed by a carb free diet. I have tested vaping and diabetes many times and it has no apparent effect on my blood sugar level.

Anyone with a high blood sugar reading go for a 3-4km walk and retest your levels and I guarantee a massive drop. I test this every day!

Today's walk/trot - sub 9.5 minutes per KM! Bazinga!
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I agree with you @Rob Fisher. I don't walk although I always intend to but when I follow Banting - without cheats - my blood sugar is actually in the normal range. (I'm Type II, by the way)
 
Time to resurrect this thread... I am a type 2 diabetic and in recent times my blood sugar was way out of control. So much so I found my eyesight deteriorating along with neuropathy in my feet. It was time to do something about it.

As you may have seen from the "Walking" thread I started in earnest and have been walking 4-5 times a week between 4 and 10km's per session. I tested my blood sugar before and after and the drop in levels was amazing... the problem is the blood sugar climbed to dangerous levels after a while. I was losing weight with the walking and that encouraged me to keep going...

It came to a head when I actually realised my eyesight was being affected substantially and finally after all these years and nagging by my wife (who is a nurse and pretty clued up on diabetes) decided to do something about it. I did some research on my own on YouTube and realised while exercise is critical in overall health, weight loss and wellbeing it only accounted for about 20% of the fight against Diabetes Type 2 and the other 80% was what went into your mouth. All the foods my wife had been telling me to avoid I was eating.

I changed my diet recently and the stabilisation and reduction in my blood sugar has been nothing short of amazing. My blood sugar has been at almost normal levels for the last week or two and already I can feel the benefits. My eyesight is back to normal and even the Neuropathy in my feet has improved.

I'm checking my sugar levels 10 times a day to check what my levels do when I eat or exercise and how long the levels remain at acceptable levels. When I was just walking and eating everything my blood sugar would drop and rise dramatically and that was really bad for the body.

What have I done do you ask? I have cut out carbs and any foods that spike sugar levels. I am also doing intermittent fasting. Is this sustainable since I love bread and chips? Well, it just has to be... it's either that or go blind or lose a foot or both! This may sound dramatic but it's a fact of life and uncontrolled diabetics are heading for an early grave. FACT!

Since I started this new lifestyle I have dropped from 116kg's to 101kg's and my blood sugar levels have been almost normal after 20 years of being out of control. Yes, it is early days but the results have been dramatic and I urge anyone with Type 2 Diabetes to take a serious look at their lifestyle.

Now the original title to the thread is Vaping with Diabetes and I can tell you based on my nearly 8 years of vaping that vaping does not spike sugar levels. I vape over 40ml's of juice every day and I have never felt better in the last 40 odd years!
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