Waffling Reviews

Let haters be haters, I enjoy what I do and will keep doing it even if I watch the videos myself ffs. Let it be...


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ever stop doing that for as long as I live so keep telling yourself that as you go to bed alone tonight.

Damn son you really took one negative review as a headshot. Seriously one person said your review was crap and this is the disproportionate response to that? As I said previously no one even knew @Hooked was talking about you, but you opened your mouth and removed all doubt.

Having now wasted 11 min of my life watching the review, I agree with the initial feedback, it's boring and provides us with absolutely no value on whether to buy the juice or not. In total you spoke for 8 min about everything but the juice. Your diction is poor and stale, you keep telling us about your enthusiasm but your review is devoid of anything believable, there is absolutely no excitement or enjoyment that shines through - even the random fucks thrown in haphazardly, I enjoy swearing, I think it has a good place in communication, but son use it to accentuate a point.

You seem uncomfortable, like you're trying to be a cardboard copy of every other vape reviewer, an effigy that you have spliced together from what you consider the best parts of them.

I'll excuse the poor cuts because you said you're new to video but you should go watch some tutorials, there are many free ones on youtube that provide excellent walk-throughs.

The one thing that isn't excusable is this nonsense about doing it "for the love", I visited your website too, and immediately it starts throwing notifications and asking me to sign up to an email newsletter, stop now, just admit that you want to germinate in to a vape figure head.

I think the overall lesson here is that you didn't take your own advice, where you told @Hooked to walk on by, you ended up showing your true colours, but I fear that your self-imposed martyrdom will keep you blind to the growth you could have achieved here.
 
I just watched it and all I can say is “what dafuq?”

It’s an 11min vid and the first time the juice gets tasted is in the 8th min.
And the result of this drawn out drama was “yoh, it tastes like choc mint ice cream”
Umm well yeah, that’s kinda what it says on the bottle.

I now understand the suffering of Sisyphus.
 
Yeah i watched until the Bold and Beautiful them song came up with the yo yo yo opening, so 10 seconds about. I really dislike white okes trying to imitate the yank rappers. REALLY dislike it. The really Slim Shady already stood up.
Bud i hope you take the criticism from the above guys as postive and work on it from there. Be yourself. No need to be like all other overseas reviewers
 
WOW , let's bring out the pitchforks .....

I suspect one whiskey too many was had with the juice review hey @contrid ? :p

Sorry to say bud , but you were your own worst enemy here .... I tried defending you but the okes have some valid points. LEARN from the mistakes and come back better stronger that's all the advise I can give now .... just keep at it

To the three horseman @Strontium @Feliks Karp @SmokeyJoe please go Dislike my first juice review if you like :p or well tune me if it was OK or k@k would like some input. Need to work on the jump cuts a bit see cutting myself off halfway through a sentence lol. P.S I swear a LOT and I need to fire my special effects guy LOL :

 
@contrid the video in question lacks character, enthusiasm and originality (can't comment on how informative it was cause I couldn't bare watching the whole thing). Even the f bombs seem superficial (trying to hard to be like a Bogan maybe?).
I think the one thing that stands out in a review is usually the passion for vaping. When you look at other reviewers, they seem to enjoy talking about what they're reviewing, thus, the flow of the review seems almost natural. You speak about being enthusiatic and passionate but in my opinion it just seems like you're jumping on the bandwagon for your 15mins. You need to understand the crucial role local reviewers play to the SA vaping community...especially when it comes to local juices. We rely on you guys. Please take our words as constructive because all we want to do is help you to help us!
 
@contrid, Just wanted to say congrats for having the guts to put yourself out there.

I don't have any comment for the video. Just don't start drugs. IMG_20171215_103045.png
 
One of the hardest things one has to learn in life, especially when taking on a public role, is dealing with criticism. Although it is hard to deal with, it is not always presented in a very palatable way, when viewed with the correct attitude, it can be of great use. Trick is to see past both your own and possibly the issuer's emotions and deal with the facts clinically. The decision on how or if to respond is up to you. See it as advice, possibly not well presented, but it contains a different perspective than your own and one can never have enough perspective.

If a response is required, a neutral, non-committal reply serves best. 'Thank you for your comments, your views will be taken into consideration'. It gives the ' plaintiff ' recognition without fueling any emotions that may be involved. Emotion, as is their nature, is the enemy.

Regards
 
@contrid, tastes differ and each viewer will have their own idea of what they want/expect when seeing a review. Daniel DJLsb's viewers expect to see a very techy review with lots of objective figures and charts, Rip's viewers might expect fewer figures and objectivity but a whole lot more pizzazz in presentation. Some people watch reviews because they only want information on the product, others because they like the personality or style of the reviewer, some because they want to participate in giveaways, others because they feel part of a community where they want to show support for the reviewer.

I can only talk for myself but when I take even just ten minutes to watch a review, it is to get information. If I watch a hardware review, I want to get facts and figures, pros and cons, details and close-ups. I don't care what beer Bogan is drinking today, or what Jai Haze did in the military, or how much weight Rip has lost, or that Grimm thinks I need to contact my elected representatives. I'm here to learn about the device they have in their hand, let's cut to the chase. In this regard, I'll give props to @KZOR. His reviews are exactly the style I want with the information I need. If the reviewer doesn't present well but gives great tech info, such as DJLsb, that is fine too. If I want sparkling personality and great humour, I'll watch Trevor Noah. No vape reviewer can compete with him.

I don't watch juice reviews as I don't buy commercial juice. But I watch DIY flavour reviews which amount to much the same thing - the reviewer wants to communicate a taste sensation to us. He has to make us imagine exactly what a liquid tastes like without actually having it in our atty. This is how ConcreteRiver does it:



It's not a flashy style, no camera or editing tricks, no ghetto banter, no shout-outs to his homies, no advocacy pleas, no giveaways, no small talk, no diversions, no chucking of monster clouds, no cliches about "getting up close and personal" or "diving down to close-ups", no marketing of his own personality or his other social media, no music even beyond a very brief logo sting. What I get instead is the best flavour notes on the internet from one of the most acute palates on the internet. When Concrete uploads a fifteen minute video, I know it's going to be 15 minutes well spent. It's not going to be 15 minutes of my life that I want a refund for. He doesn't take up my time either. Very short logo, brief greeting and disclaimer and boom, we're into it.

Compare how Concrete describes and conveys the flavours he is vaping with the way that you describe the flavour you are vaping. Who is giving more detail? I don't expect you to compete with him, very few can. But, in a 12 minute video, I want more than 30 seconds devoted to describing the flavour. I want more than "it tastes so nice" or "it is just like it says on the bottle". Maybe look at the aspects of the flavour/juice that Concrete addresses and describes, and work similar notes and angles into your reviews. It will be of great help to viewers.

I think the reason your review isn't focused is because you are either unsure of how to pick a flavour apart, or not confident in your palate's acuity to do so. Don't let this deter you. Reviewers teach but they also learn every day. DJLsb's first reviews had nothing like the level of detail they do now. Wayne's first videos were terrible. Doing hardware tech detail or juice/flavour analysis is a skill that you learn and never stop learning. Even Concrete will tell you that he is a better flavour analyst now than he was six months ago. It is hard work and practice makes perfect.

Of course, the above just applies to me and what I want from a review. Others may differ. But I think it's a good rule of thumb that if you are reviewing a flavour or juice, a detailed breakdown of its taste is the crux of the review and the reason why people are tuning in. Don't let criticism deter you. The trick is to build a template of what you want your perfect review video to be, what it offers the viewer, and then to work systematically towards that. You will get a lot of flak along the way. That is what makes the journey so rewarding. No pain, no gain.
 
@contrid, tastes differ and each viewer will have their own idea of what they want/expect when seeing a review. Daniel DJLsb's viewers expect to see a very techy review with lots of objective figures and charts, Rip's viewers might expect fewer figures and objectivity but a whole lot more pizzazz in presentation. Some people watch reviews because they only want information on the product, others because they like the personality or style of the reviewer, some because they want to participate in giveaways, others because they feel part of a community where they want to show support for the reviewer.

I can only talk for myself but when I take even just ten minutes to watch a review, it is to get information. If I watch a hardware review, I want to get facts and figures, pros and cons, details and close-ups. I don't care what beer Bogan is drinking today, or what Jai Haze did in the military, or how much weight Rip has lost, or that Grimm thinks I need to contact my elected representatives. I'm here to learn about the device they have in their hand, let's cut to the chase. In this regard, I'll give props to @KZOR. His reviews are exactly the style I want with the information I need. If the reviewer doesn't present well but gives great tech info, such as DJLsb, that is fine too. If I want sparkling personality and great humour, I'll watch Trevor Noah. No vape reviewer can compete with him.

I don't watch juice reviews as I don't buy commercial juice. But I watch DIY flavour reviews which amount to much the same thing - the reviewer wants to communicate a taste sensation to us. He has to make us imagine exactly what a liquid tastes like without actually having it in our atty. This is how ConcreteRiver does it:



It's not a flashy style, no camera or editing tricks, no ghetto banter, no shout-outs to his homies, no advocacy pleas, no giveaways, no small talk, no diversions, no chucking of monster clouds, no cliches about "getting up close and personal" or "diving down to close-ups", no marketing of his own personality or his other social media, no music even beyond a very brief logo sting. What I get instead is the best flavour notes on the internet from one of the most acute palates on the internet. When Concrete uploads a fifteen minute video, I know it's going to be 15 minutes well spent. It's not going to be 15 minutes of my life that I want a refund for. He doesn't take up my time either. Very short logo, brief greeting and disclaimer and boom, we're into it.

Compare how Concrete describes and conveys the flavours he is vaping with the way that you describe the flavour you are vaping. Who is giving more detail? I don't expect you to compete with him, very few can. But, in a 12 minute video, I want more than 30 seconds devoted to describing the flavour. I want more than "it tastes so nice" or "it is just like it says on the bottle". Maybe look at the aspects of the flavour/juice that Concrete addresses and describes, and work similar notes and angles into your reviews. It will be of great help to viewers.

I think the reason your review isn't focused is because you are either unsure of how to pick a flavour apart, or not confident in your palate's acuity to do so. Don't let this deter you. Reviewers teach but they also learn every day. DJLsb's first reviews had nothing like the level of detail they do now. Wayne's first videos were terrible. Doing hardware tech detail or juice/flavour analysis is a skill that you learn and never stop learning. Even Concrete will tell you that he is a better flavour analyst now than he was six months ago. It is hard work and practice makes perfect.

Of course, the above just applies to me and what I want from a review. Others may differ. But I think it's a good rule of thumb that if you are reviewing a flavour or juice, a detailed breakdown of its taste is the crux of the review and the reason why people are tuning in. Don't let criticism deter you. The trick is to build a template of what you want your perfect review video to be, what it offers the viewer, and then to work systematically towards that. You will get a lot of flak along the way. That is what makes the journey so rewarding. No pain, no gain.



I agree with everything except the Trevor Noah bit.
 
WOW , let's bring out the pitchforks .....

I suspect one whiskey too many was had with the juice review hey @contrid ? :p

Sorry to say bud , but you were your own worst enemy here .... I tried defending you but the okes have some valid points. LEARN from the mistakes and come back better stronger that's all the advise I can give now .... just keep at it

To the three horseman @Strontium @Feliks Karp @SmokeyJoe please go Dislike my first juice review if you like :p or well tune me if it was OK or k@k would like some input. Need to work on the jump cuts a bit see cutting myself off halfway through a sentence lol. P.S I swear a LOT and I need to fire my special effects guy LOL :


I actually like your reviews, mainly because from the on set you said your vidz where kak praat reviews, so you know what to expect. Keep it up man
 
WOW , let's bring out the pitchforks .....

I suspect one whiskey too many was had with the juice review hey @contrid ? :p

Sorry to say bud , but you were your own worst enemy here .... I tried defending you but the okes have some valid points. LEARN from the mistakes and come back better stronger that's all the advise I can give now .... just keep at it

To the three horseman @Strontium @Feliks Karp @SmokeyJoe please go Dislike my first juice review if you like :p or well tune me if it was OK or k@k would like some input. Need to work on the jump cuts a bit see cutting myself off halfway through a sentence lol. P.S I swear a LOT and I need to fire my special effects guy LOL :




I enjoy yours Dan, I do cover the screen tho lolol
 
Good advise from one of the fathers of vlogging , to add just do YOU get better at producing content and get a thick skin :

 
For me, going into reviewing is like going into business. You are offering a vaping product, no different from an atty or mod or juice. What makes yours different? Why will people choose it? What is your Unique Selling Point? If you can't answer these questions, you don't have a plan. If you don't have a plan, success rarely follows.

I have seen people starting channels and trying to be like Rip. They never last. You are not going to out-Rip Rip. Nor out-tech DJLsb or Mooch. You aren't going to out-produce Grimm, or out-swear Bogan, or have more skeptical street cred than Jai Haze, or be more of an industry heavyweight than pbusardo, or talk about DIY IP issues with more credibility than Wayne. Those niches are all taken, find something else. But do find something and make it yours.

Whether in business or reviewing, I would always rather be the first port of call for 10% of the market than just toss out a generic product aimed at 100% of the market and hoping it sticks. ConcreteRiver has a small subscriber base. But for them, he is the first port of call and, for some, the only port of call. Pick one thing to do but do it better than anybody else. Then the YT community will beat a path to your door.
 
New juice review up took some advise from this thread and well still some waffling but hey..... Would love to hear some positive critisism.... P.S getting some haters comments in other videos uploaded so I must be doing something right :p

 
New juice review up took some advise from this thread and well still some waffling but hey..... Would love to hear some positive critisism.... P.S getting some haters comments in other videos uploaded so I must be doing something right :p


Hey Bro, your wiskunde sucks hey.

Regards
 
@Daniel, that is now a juice review. That gives me a very good idea of what to expect from the juice. Relating it to things that the viewer is likely to have tasted, like Woolies Blueberries, helps a lot. Breaking down the inhale and exhale, the balance between the notes, how sweet or tart or juicy or dry it is, what value for money it offers, these are all valuable insights.

One thing I appreciate about reviews is what I call the Vaping with Vic intro. When he starts a review of, say, a dripper, he won't just tell you that he's got an interesting new dripper in. He'll tell you a bit about the company, the previous drippers they brought out, what makes this dripper different from their other ones, what niche it will fill in the market. So it gives a good overview of how this product came to life and why you would choose it over another dripper.

This applies to juices too. If a juice company does mostly fruits and now suddenly bring out a tobacco, that tells a story. Why the change? What brought this product to life? It would also be interesting to get comparisons with similar profiles. If you're reviewing a strawberry cream, there are dozens on the market. What makes this one different? Why would I want to try it over an existing strawberry cream? Of course, it is tough for a new reviewer to have all this experience of the thousands of juices available. But that again is why reviews get better over time, as the reviewer builds a personal database of knowledge about the juices on the market.

FA just brought out three new DIY flavours: Juicy Strawberry, Custard Premium and Breakfast Cereal. There is a story behind each of them. This is just my take but it seems logical. One of the big criticisms of FA fruits is that they are dry. ID10-T calls their strawberry "freeze-dried". Is it coincidence that the new strawberry is pointedly called Juicy Strawberry? FA lost a lot of market share to other custards because their custard is loaded with lemon. This new Custard Premium has no lemon note in it. FA never did a breakfast cereal before. Cereals are popular and Capella cleaned up with their Cereal27, everybody was using it. Now there is a rival from FA to take back market share. All of these new flavours tell me that FA is responding to criticism from customers, and sorting out errors and omissions in their existing line. It's small details but it's things that help the viewer to understand what is happening in the industry and why these new products are coming to market.
 
@Daniel, that is now a juice review. That gives me a very good idea of what to expect from the juice. Relating it to things that the viewer is likely to have tasted, like Woolies Blueberries, helps a lot. Breaking down the inhale and exhale, the balance between the notes, how sweet or tart or juicy or dry it is, what value for money it offers, these are all valuable insights.

One thing I appreciate about reviews is what I call the Vaping with Vic intro. When he starts a review of, say, a dripper, he won't just tell you that he's got an interesting new dripper in. He'll tell you a bit about the company, the previous drippers they brought out, what makes this dripper different from their other ones, what niche it will fill in the market. So it gives a good overview of how this product came to life and why you would choose it over another dripper.

This applies to juices too. If a juice company does mostly fruits and now suddenly bring out a tobacco, that tells a story. Why the change? What brought this product to life? It would also be interesting to get comparisons with similar profiles. If you're reviewing a strawberry cream, there are dozens on the market. What makes this one different? Why would I want to try it over an existing strawberry cream? Of course, it is tough for a new reviewer to have all this experience of the thousands of juices available. But that again is why reviews get better over time, as the reviewer builds a personal database of knowledge about the juices on the market.

FA just brought out three new DIY flavours: Juicy Strawberry, Custard Premium and Breakfast Cereal. There is a story behind each of them. This is just my take but it seems logical. One of the big criticisms of FA fruits is that they are dry. ID10-T calls their strawberry "freeze-dried". Is it coincidence that the new strawberry is pointedly called Juicy Strawberry? FA lost a lot of market share to other custards because their custard is loaded with lemon. This new Custard Premium has no lemon note in it. FA never did a breakfast cereal before. Cereals are popular and Capella cleaned up with their Cereal27, everybody was using it. Now there is a rival from FA to take back market share. All of these new flavours tell me that FA is responding to criticism from customers, and sorting out errors and omissions in their existing line. It's small details but it's things that help the viewer to understand what is happening in the industry and why these new products are coming to market.
Damn you should start a local DIY channel or we should collab...how do you feel about driving around with a crazy Dutchman and singing?
 
The driving around is fine. But if I ever sang on your channel, you'd get more hate mail than Rip. Advocacy groups would be asking you to please not let me do that again because it is giving vaping a bad image. :D

The Afrik is ook maar lekker. I can do the two-taled boat-sheep for the salties.
 
The driving around is fine. But if I ever sang on your channel, you'd get more hate mail than Rip. Advocacy groups would be asking you to please not let me do that again because it is giving vaping a bad image. :D

The Afrik is ook maar lekker. I can do the two-taled boat-sheep for the salties.
Think I should do an 'local is lekker' interview with some of the forum legends tagging @Silver @Rob Fisher @RichJB I'm coming for you....
 
The driving around is fine. But if I ever sang on your channel, you'd get more hate mail than Rip. Advocacy groups would be asking you to please not let me do that again because it is giving vaping a bad image. :D

The Afrik is ook maar lekker. I can do the two-taled boat-sheep for the salties.
Took me forever to work out "boat-sheep".
 
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