What performance exhaust is the best

[VapeSnow]

Hi guys

I have a Ford Fiesta 1.4 and I'm going to remap the ECU chip but with this i would like to install a performance exhaust system.

So my question to the guys in Cape Town is.

What is the best exhaust to get that will sound nice and will give me a bump in KW and where can i get this done?

Any advice will be appreciated !!

Thx for reading

 

[Rotten_Bunny]

Go for a cherry bomb !

Check youtube and google cherry bomb exhausts

Rotten Bunny.

Vape the Planet !

 

[Cat]

An imported exhaust. UK. .....Otherwise, find a shop that tunes hot Fiestas. If it's like Durban, most of them do Golfs and BMWs. And Hondas.

 

[Yiannaki]

Hi guys

I have a Ford Fiesta 1.4 and I'm going to remap the ECU chip but with this i would like to install a performance exhaust system.

So my question to the guys in Cape Town is.

What is the best exhaust to get that will sound nice and will give me a bump in KW and where can i get this done?

Any advice will be appreciated !!

Thx for reading

A good place to learn more about tbr subject would be from www.fordstownerssa.co.za ( I know yours is not an ST) but youll get a more comprehensive answer there.

Be warned. They're not the friendliest bunch.

 

[VapeSnow]

A good place to learn more about tbr subject would be from www.fordstownerssa.co.za ( I know yours is not an ST) but youll get a more comprehensive answer there.

Be warned. They're not the friendliest bunch.

Thx ill have a chat with them.

 

[NickT]

Don't wanna burst your bubble mate, but you're not going to get a lot of gains, if any.

Being normally aspirated, there's not a lot you can do. Who is going to remap your ECU? Or are you going to get a piggy back chip? As for exhausts, you could possibly import a Milltek exhaust and branches. The cost will be mental though.

Otherwise just go to your local Powerflow and get them to build one for you.

I have the Mk6 Fiesta ST. WITH Cosworth 210 Cams, Cosworth inlet manifold, SWR branches, Full stainless Powerflow system, CAI induction, Jamsport Custom 210 map, Underdrive Pulley Kit and some other stuff, and even with all that, the gains don't nearly equal the costs.

 

[VapeSnow]

Don't wanna burst your bubble mate, but you're not going to get a lot of gains, if any.

Being normally aspirated, there's not a lot you can do. Who is going to remap your ECU? Or are you going to get a piggy back chip? As for exhausts, you could possibly import a Milltek exhaust and branches. The cost will be mental though.

Otherwise just go to your local Powerflow and get them to build one for you.

I have the Mk6 Fiesta ST. WITH Cosworth 210 Cams, Cosworth inlet manifold, SWR branches, Full stainless Powerflow system, CAI induction, Jamsport Custom 210 map, Underdrive Pulley Kit and some other stuff, and even with all that, the gains don't nearly equal the costs.

Yes buddy i thought that is not going to give me a big jump.

Yes i was looking at the powerflow for the sound and the dark artz ecu software.

Tell me will this give me a jump or am i waisting my cash?

 

[NickT]

I think the ECU remap is a waste of cash. If they told you you're going to get awesome gains, they are straight out lying to you. The Powerflow system will definitely give you sound, and depending on how they build it, possibly slightly better throttle response. They actually rebuilt mine smaller than stock.

Instead of the remap, look into getting a SRI or CAI from Motorcade, Carter or K&N. that will give more sound as well, and again, increase throttle response ever so slightly.

 

[VapeSnow]

I think the ECU remap is a waste of cash. If they told you you're going to get awesome gains, they are straight out lying to you. The Powerflow system will definitely give you sound, and depending on how they build it, possibly slightly better throttle response. They actually rebuilt mine smaller than stock.

Instead of the remap, look into getting a SRI or CAI from Motorcade, Carter or K&N. that will give more sound as well, and again, increase throttle response ever so slightly.

The guy at ATM Choptuning told me if i get the K&N filter, powerflow exhaust system and the ecu software i will gain 11kw! What do you think?

 

[NickT]

The guy at ATM Choptuning told me if i get the K&N filter, powerflow exhaust system and the ecu software i will gain 11kw! What do you think?

I call BS on that, I can't even see you getting 11 FKW, never mind 11 at the wheels.

 

[VapeSnow]

I call BS on that, I can't even see you getting 11 FKW, never mind 11 at the wheels.

So its a waist of money?? No man!!!! What is the whole reason for all this stuff if it don't really help your car??

I really thought it will make my car nippy.

 

[Riaz]

@VapeSnow the guy promising you 11KW is crazy

There is no way a 1.4 will gain 11KW with the mods you listed.

My advise, you will be wasting your money on remapping the ecu.

Get the filter, do a CAI (Cold Air Induction) and do the exhaust.

Thats about the best you can do to a 1.4

Just my 2c

 

[NickT]

So its a waist of money?? No man!!!! What is the whole reason for all this stuff if it don't really help your car??

I really thought it will make my car nippy.

Unfortunately, your foundation is wrong from the start. A 1.4L normally aspirated motor is never going to be much more than what it already is.

If you've got loads of cash to burn, you could supercharge or turbo charge it, though the cost doesn't make sense. You could try and source a 2L ST Duratec motor, but that wouldn't be cheap either. Or believe it or not, the Mazda 2.3L MPS motor will fit in our engine bays(assuming you have the MK6). Or, sell your Fiesta and buy something bigger.

 

[Riaz]

Don't wanna burst your bubble mate, but you're not going to get a lot of gains, if any.

Being normally aspirated, there's not a lot you can do. Who is going to remap your ECU? Or are you going to get a piggy back chip? As for exhausts, you could possibly import a Milltek exhaust and branches. The cost will be mental though.

Otherwise just go to your local Powerflow and get them to build one for you.

I have the Mk6 Fiesta ST. WITH Cosworth 210 Cams, Cosworth inlet manifold, SWR branches, Full stainless Powerflow system, CAI induction, Jamsport Custom 210 map, Underdrive Pulley Kit and some other stuff, and even with all that, the gains don't nearly equal the costs.

Thats an awesome list of mods

What power is she pushing out at the wheels?

Did you upgrade your brake system as well?

 

[VapeSnow]

Unfortunately, your foundation is wrong from the start. A 1.4L normally aspirated motor is never going to be much more than what it already is.

If you've got loads of cash to burn, you could supercharge or turbo charge it, though the cost doesn't make sense. You could try and source a 2L ST Duratec motor, but that wouldn't be cheap either. Or believe it or not, the Mazda 2.3L MPS motor will fit in our engine bays(assuming you have the MK6). Or, sell your Fiesta and buy something bigger.

Okay thx. Ill give this car for my wife and get me something bigger in the long run. Thx for the info man.

 

[VapeSnow]

@VapeSnow the guy promising you 11KW is crazy

There is no way a 1.4 will gain 11KW with the mods you listed.

My advise, you will be wasting your money on remapping the ecu.

Get the filter, do a CAI (Cold Air Induction) and do the exhaust.

Thats about the best you can do to a 1.4

Just my 2c

Thx @Riaz i think ill try these steps just to get the sound a bit better. Will i get any increase if i do these three steps?the CAI is the filter right? So its two steps?

 

[NickT]

Thats an awesome list of mods

What power is she pushing out at the wheels?

Did you upgrade your brake system as well?

Forgot to add the 60mm throttle body. With all those mods, on a nice cold day and a friendly dyno, maybe 150whp. So I basically proved at great cost that you can't polish a turd. Hehe.

As for brakes, on front I have larger slotted Powerbrake disks. The back brakes are still stock.

 

[NickT]

Thx @Riaz i think ill try these steps just to get the sound a bit better. Will i get any increase if i do these three steps?the CAI is the filter right? So its two steps?

You can get a CAI(cold air induction)or an SRI(short ram induction), both will change your sound. Depending on who you believe, the CAI will give more power than the SRI. But, and it's a BIIIIIIIGGGGG but, you run the risk of hydrolocking your motor because the induction pipe is so close to the road and will suck up water if you drive through a mini river. It's a genuine risk, I personally know 4 people who've destroyed their ST motors this way.

 

[Riaz]

You can get a CAI(cold air induction)or an SRI(short ram induction), both will change your sound. Depending on who you believe, the CAI will give more power than the SRI. But, and it's a BIIIIIIIGGGGG but, you run the risk of hydrolocking your motor because the induction pipe is so close to the road and will suck up water if you drive through a mini river. It's a genuine risk, I personally know 4 people who've destroyed their ST motors this way.

True story

Rather just get the cone filter with heat shield and leave the filter in the engine bay

Doing the filter, SRI/CAI and exhaust, you will definitely feel a better throttle response and also a bit more power.

Dont expect too much from these mods though, as these are just breathing mods

 

[NickT]

@Riaz @VapeSnow , at least you guys are down at the coast. Coastal air is nom nom for NA motors.

@VapeSnow , one last option. NOS. it does work, you will accelerate much faster and get the full potential out of your motor. But be very careful about who you get to install it. It unquestioningly shortens your engine life, but depending on how professionally it's been installed and how knowledgeable the installer is, you might still get a good few thousand km's out of it.

 

[Riaz]

@Riaz @VapeSnow , at least you guys are down at the coast. Coastal air is nom nom for NA motors.

@VapeSnow , one last option. NOS. it does work, you will accelerate much faster and get the full potential out of your motor. But be very careful about who you get to install it. It unquestioningly shortens your engine life, but depending on how professionally it's been installed and how knowledgeable the installer is, you might still get a good few thousand km's out of it.

You forgot to the add the ''user of the NOS'' could seriously shorten the life of the engine as well

I think what @VapeSnow is after is just a little more power, not necessarily NOS type power, which is only occasional, but more of a constant power increase delivery.

I personally would not recommend NOS to a completely stock motor, especially with stock internals. We do not know the condition of the block/ pistons etc and slapping a NOS kit to a 1.4 is really like ''giving someone a PK when they've just woke up in the morning''

 

[NickT]

You forgot to the add the ''user of the NOS'' could seriously shorten the life of the engine as well

I think what @VapeSnow is after is just a little more power, not necessarily NOS type power, which is only occasional, but more of a constant power increase delivery.

I personally would not recommend NOS to a completely stock motor, especially with stock internals. We do not know the condition of the block/ pistons etc and slapping a NOS kit to a 1.4 is really like ''giving someone a PK when they've just woke up in the morning''

With preset controlled shots it should be ok. 30 or even 40 hp shots should be fine. I know that my motor in stock form can happily take 70hp shots. I haven't done it myself, but quite a few other guys have.

But yes, at the end of the day nothing can up the power of the 1.4L motor without serious cash, or serious risk. Or both for that matter.

 

[Ashley A]

Without NOS or force induction, you're not going to get big power gains if that is what you're after.

I think 11kw with an exhaust, intake, and ECU is realistic but that's as far as it goes for a 1.4 unless you go on one of the above routes which will need you to redo everything anyway.

I'd still do it just for the sound and slightly more nippy feel.

As far as where to get an exhaust, I'd look for a custom niche specialist. The Ford forum is probably a good place to get referrals. I wouldn't recommend having a commercial exhaust put on as they try to cater for a 1 size fits all segment so something is always short to your preference. You can go with a Powerflow creation but again, they work with what works on most cars, not necessarily your car. I know because I did this and I was happy until I took it out and got a custom built exhaust built by someone who only works on my specific car from a dedicated car forum and it was miles ahead in every aspect and they built it to suite my taste, and coincidentally cheaper. the visual appeal of the Powerflow exhaust looked cooler and fancy but the custom one had much better visual workmanship yet it was a lot more work and joins etc.

 

[RezaD]

From experience a waste if time mate. Chip and exhaust might even give you negative returns and will most certainly increase fuel consumption. A powerflow exhaust however has other benefits. I have had one for 12 years and it is still 100%. If you plan on keeping the car for 5 years plus it is worth it

 

[VapeSnow]

Guys thx for all the advice. I got a place in Koeberg road who is going to built me a custom system. Thx again for all the advice.