What To Get...

[bwbwings]

Get HANA MODZ.
i have not made coils yet. i use EVOD BCC. i like them. i like them more each day. They're easy to refill and they don't give me any hassles. (Compared to iclear16s, Aerotank Mega, iclear X.I)
i got an innokin MVP, after the HANA because it took 7 weeks to get to me...it's ok, it's good, the battery lasts more than a day, but not as long as the 18650 battery in the HANA...but i can set both of them to 9W, same EVOD BCC, same juice, straight swop, and it just works better on the HANA - better vapour. So now i only use the MVP when the HANA battery needs to be charged - and when my 2 VTC5 batteries arrive,...i dunno, then i won't need to use the MVP. unless the HANA MODZ conks.
Never mind the Volt story with the HANA (iow, the DNA 30 clone). It doesn't affect me and there're thousands of people happily using them. Best bang for the buck. Covers that are machined to fit properly, good switches.................the Cloupor HANA clone. although now i'd get a fasttech mini clone as a backup.

Hey Cat, thanks for the advise. It is such a minefield especially at the prices we are talking about.

I must admit that I am leaning towards the Segelei but the Hana looks really good (I think my wife may like this one).

For now I am just trying to absorb everyone awesome advise and then try make the best decision I can.

 

[bwbwings]

Please try and get an original if you can because so many of the clones are simply a load of crap and will leak and give you such a bad experience you will never want to go the rebuildable route again... I speak from experience here because I have been there, done that and got the t-shirt!

Then I consulted the experts and they told me to get a Russian 91% original which I did... best purchase ever! It has taken me on the rebuildables route and despite the fact that I use REO's 99,7% of the time I still have my Sigelei 20W and Russian 91% and doubt I will ever sell them because they have a special place in my heart and they are still both used!

Hey Rob,

I am definately looking at getting originals, I am prepared to put down a little extra for something that is going to last. Would you have any advise on the Russian compared to the Kayfun?

 

[Nightfearz]

Wow, such awesome advice.

I would like to dip my toes into RBA, can any advise on the Kayfun for getting rebuildable experience?

From everything I have heard the 30w seems the way to go for something that will give enough power in the long term whilst offering a great vaping experience.

I am definitely leaning towards the Sigelei and would love to hear everyone's experience with it or other 30w devices?

I cannot comment and a kayfun as I haven't used one yet, But i can comment on a RSST. my comment... don't.... don't go for a RSST style RBA. again it is cumbersome and high maintenance but it does give a good vape.
The upside is, more juice so less refill times,
the downside, you cannot put it down on its side. you also cannot put it upright on its own because of the centre pin. so either keep it on the mech mod, or empty everytime you are done with it... or use a (vapestand...)
The segelei 30w might be a very good option, or if you are sticking with electronic mods, another option is the evic supreme, although it does come with loads of extra toys (like a B&W picture screen saver, and customizable logos).
If you are in the JHB region, you night consider joining the VapeMeet and of August, there will loads of goodies and people to talk to.

 

[Rob Fisher]

Hey Rob,

I am definately looking at getting originals, I am prepared to put down a little extra for something that is going to last. Would you have any advise on the Russian compared to the Kayfun?

The reason I chose the Russian was because it has airflow... not sure if the new Kayfuns have airflow... but my first Kayfun experience was traumatic and that was the main reason I went for a Russian and the airflow was a real bonus!

 

[Rob Fisher]

@bwbwings you may want to do a little more research into the new box mods popping up and see how the guys like them compared to say the Sigelei... I haven't played with any of them so can't really make a call on that issue.

If I'm not mistaken there is an original Russian for sale in the classified right now?

 

[Cat]

The main difference is that one is a box and the other is a cylinder. There are two of you - i mean you and your wife - so you could get both and see. The Sigelei, iirc, has a tilt sensor to switch the menu or something - something i wouldn't want, another potential point of failure. They're for switching off ignition when a bike falls over, or for fancy car suspension systems, i don't need one in a vaping device.

PS: Another option, another way to go - get a HANA MODZ - whoever has stock, and order a HANA MODZ mini from fasttech - takes 3+ weeks to get to you...or...the mini doesn't cost less than the standard, so that you get to make the choice of colours easier, getting two of them.

 

[bwbwings]

I cannot comment and a kayfun as I haven't used one yet, But i can comment on a RSST. my comment... don't.... don't go for a RSST style RBA. again it is cumbersome and high maintenance but it does give a good vape.
The upside is, more juice so less refill times,
the downside, you cannot put it down on its side. you also cannot put it upright on its own because of the centre pin. so either keep it on the mech mod, or empty everytime you are done with it... or use a (vapestand...)
The segelei 30w might be a very good option, or if you are sticking with electronic mods, another option is the evic supreme, although it does come with loads of extra toys (like a B&W picture screen saver, and customizable logos).
If you are in the JHB region, you night consider joining the VapeMeet and of August, there will loads of goodies and people to talk to.

Hey Nightfearz,

Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate you telling me about the RSST, might be a little complicated for me right now. I'll do some searching on the evic supreme and start comparing.

I am in JHB and definitely going to the Vape meet

 

[bwbwings]

Hey Cat,

I do agree on the points of failure, always something to watch out for. Do you know if the batteries are transferrable between the different devices. It would be great if we can get the same batteries and transfer as needed?

 

[Alex]

Excellent advice here from everyone, from my perspective.. something simple like a Nemesis or similar will work for you. Fewer things to go wrong, and coupled with either the new Nautilus mini, which can handle up to 18w. Or a tank system like a kayfun or Russian. You should be golden.

Of course if you want to save alot of money in the long term. Think about going straight for a Reo. You will not regret it. And this option will give you the ultimate experience.

 

[bwbwings]

@bwbwings you may want to do a little more research into the new box mods popping up and see how the guys like them compared to say the Sigelei... I haven't played with any of them so can't really make a call on that issue.

If I'm not mistaken there is an original Russian for sale in the classified right now?

Hi Rob,

Is R 790 a good price for the Russian?

 

[bwbwings]

Excellent advice here from everyone, from my perspective.. something simple like a Nemesis or similar will work for you. Fewer things to go wrong, and coupled with either the new Nautilus mini, which can handle up to 18w. Or a tank system like a kayfun or Russian. You should be golden.

Of course if you want to save alot of money in the long term. Think about going straight for a Reo. You will not regret it. And this option will give you the ultimate experience.

Hi Alex, I have seriously considered the the REO but I think I am not there yet. Do you have any experience with the Nemesis?

 

[Rob Fisher]

Hey Cat,

I do agree on the points of failure, always something to watch out for. Do you know if the batteries are transferrable between the different devices. It would be great if we can get the same batteries and transfer as needed?

Most of the devices use 18650 batteries. Just make sure the device you decide on is an 18650 device! Also spend a little more on the abtteries and buy the best right from the start.

My personal favorites not based on any technical stats but purely on advice I have received and the usage of them are the eFest IMR 18650's... the purple ones.

 

[Rob Fisher]

Hi Rob,

Is R 790 a good price for the Russian?

Yes it is! I paid around R1,200 for mine with shipping from Germany!

 

[Rob Fisher]

Of course if you want to save alot of money in the long term. Think about going straight for a Reo. You will not regret it. And this option will give you the ultimate experience.

I agree with @Alex on this point... a simple REO is the most cost effective solution to buy because you WILL end up there! I held out for a long time because I didn't understand how a simple mechanical device could be better than all the fancy electronic mods and tanks I was buying... if I had gone straight to the REO I wouldn't have had that much fun on my journey but I would have saved an absolute fortune!

 

[Alex]

Hi Alex, I have seriously considered the the REO but I think I am not there yet. Do you have any experience with the Nemesis?

I have had a lot of experience in working with, and using them. They really do the job well, and are inexpensive. Not to mention practically indestructible, unless you are me. Who does manage to find a way to kill the threads while spinning it in the drill press .

But trust me, they work well. Sure you can get fancy electronic mods that are perhaps cooler. But for me, the Nemesis is like a Reo. It will still be doing the job long into the future.

 

[bwbwings]

Yes it is! I paid around R1,200 for mine with shipping from Germany!

Wow, this is a tough one. I am all for spending a little extra to get something that is going to work like the batteries you recommended but R790 is a little much, I think I will have to look at the kayfun or nautilus for now.

 

[Rob Fisher]

Sure you can get fancy electronic mods that are perhaps cooler. But for me, the Nemesis is like a Reo. It will still be doing the job long into the future.

Again... be careful which one you buy because I bought one and it was a piece of crap! Plus I hate the button firing button on the mechanical mods. But the Nemesis is very popular.

 

[bwbwings]

I have had a lot of experience in working with, and using them. They really do the job well, and are inexpensive. Not to mention practically indestructible, unless you are me. Who does manage to find a way to kill the threads while spinning it in the drill press .

But trust me, they work well. Sure you can get fancy electronic mods that are perhaps cooler. But for me, the Nemesis is like a Reo. It will still be doing the job long into the future.

Hey Alex,

Please forgive my ignorance, how do you know what watts the Nemesis goes up to? Is it totally related to the battery?

 

[Dr Evil]

Hey Dr Evil,

Thanks for the info.

Can you shed light on the wattage debate Hana (30w)? Do you know what watts the SVD gets?

What Mech/RBA are you using?

The svd can go up to 15w, for me personally, i never go higher than 11w with it. I use a kayfun 3.1 and a Russian as my rba's, 1ohm is my sweet spot. Funnily enough, my kayfun on my mech at 1ohm is roughly 16w on a fully charged battery but i never liked the kayfun at 15w on the svd. It just tastes different to me.

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[Dr Evil]

Hey Alex,

Please forgive my ignorance, how do you know what watts the Nemesis goes up to? Is it totally related to the battery?

Use this chart to workout the wattage on a mech, it all depends on the build you use.


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[bwbwings]

The svd can go up to 15w, for me personally, i never go higher than 11w with it. I use a kayfun 3.1 and a Russian as my rba's, 1ohm is my sweet spot. Funnily enough, my kayfun on my mech at 1ohm is roughly 16w on a fully charged battery but i never liked the kayfun at 15w on the svd. It just tastes different to me.

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Hi Dr Evil,

Thanks for the update. I think I'll go for something with alittle more power so that I have more options. Do you enjoy your Kayfun? Any bad experiences?

 

[Dr Evil]

Hi Dr Evil,

Thanks for the update. I think I'll go for something with alittle more power so that I have more options. Do you enjoy your Kayfun? Any bad experiences?

I love it hey, just make sure you buy a good clone, decent build and nice juice channels. Vapeking sells a good clone from Yeahsmo and it's not badly priced at all, @PeterHarris did a video review on it which is linked to it on the vapeking website.

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[bwbwings]

I love it hey, just make sure you buy a good clone, decent build and nice juice channels. Vapeking sells a good clone from Yeahsmo and it's not badly priced at all, @PeterHarris did a video review on it which is linked to it on the vapeking website.

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Awesome stuff, thanks for your experiences, will take a look at the review.

Thanks you for taking the time to help

 

[Nightfearz]

Don't go spending all your money before vapemeet...

 

[bwbwings]

Don't go spending all your money before vapemeet...

You know, this is such a tough one, on one hand I want to hold out for the Vape meet cause there are bound to be specials, on the other I want to quit the stinkies so badly and hoping if I get the device it will help.... awe shucks.... there are just far too many decisions...lol