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i hope you find that vape that will keep you of the stinkies. i was a heavy smoker for 20 years and my transition to vaping was instant. mind you its only been 6 weeks but i cant see myself smoking ever again. funny thing was that i had no cravings must have been my vaping all day long that kept me to busy to even think about smoking.i now find that i cant stand the smell of smoke and cant be in the same room as someone that smokes. vaping is different for all of us and what works for me might not for you. if i where you i would hold out till the vape meet and try as much as i can then buy something. i am still using my starter evod and it still works for me but i have no backup device and will have to buy something at some point hopefully before something goes wrong. there is so many choices out there and there's new gear coming out so fast that i can understand why so many vapers have so much vaping gear. the reo seems to be very popular here on the forum and it looks like i would probably end up buying one. if not that i will probably buy a cheaper mech and a rba. hang in there and get off the stinkies all the best to you.
all the best to you.
Get the nautilus mini =)
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Hi @bwbwings
I remember when we sat together at one of the vape meets and chatted about the different options
I feel for you and can imagine how complicated the decision is. You want an awesome vape now but want to make the right decision on equipment that will last you a long time and not cost the earth. I am not going to recommend to you what to buy because what works for you may be very different to what has worked for me but I will give you some things to think about that may help you make a better decision.
I stopped stinkies on the Twisp - and remained on Twisp for about six weeks before buying better gear. Twisp had decent flavour but low throat hit. I felt Twisp was too "light" and I wanted more intensity to the vape. I vaped it like a steam train in those first few weeks
After going through a fair amount of equipment I landed up with the REO - and have been happy for the past 3 months.
However, as I posted in my REO impressions after 2 months, I think the REO is especially good for me because I like a strong throat hit - and being a dripper, the REO, or more accurately, the RM2 Reomiser atty can be set up to give a strong throat hit. More so than the Clearos, Kayfuns etc - at least in my opinion. The REO does have many other benefits like excellent flavour and reliability & practicality, but the throat hit on the vape is what does it for me. It's the dripper experience without the hassle of dripping which is keeping me very happy.
However, other folk will be happier with lower throat hit but still great flavour production on say a Nautilus Mini with the new BVC coils. So far this tank has performed the best out of the commercial non-RBA tanks I've tried. After all, if you use a Nautilus Mini with 18mg juice, most folk will say that it packs a strong punch. So you can just go higher on the nic to get more throat hit if you need.
So your choice I think does depend on where your preferences are.
- Do you need more throat hit?
- Are you after more flavour?
- Have you just not found the juices you like?
- Or are you unsure on these?
Then you get the issue of vaping as a hobby and whether you want to "play and tinker". Some people really enjoy building lots of coils and seeing what the difference is. Some enjoy massive power and blowing huge clouds. Some enjoy the actual act of building and tinkering. Dual coils, different wicks, drilling out airholes, modifying atties in drillpresses etc etc.
And lastly you get budget. Going through several devices is costly but the upside is you enjoy the journey and appreciate it more when you reach something that works for you. Trying to pick the perfect device from the start is risky and you may end up wondering "what if I had bought that." What is your budget if I may ask?
Bringing it back to your original goal of stopping stinkies, I will say that to do that one actually doesn't need awesome gear like a REO or some fancy electronic 30W mod. All it takes in my view is to find some juices you really like and a bit of willpower.
I remember when we sat together at one of the vape meets and chatted about the different options
I feel for you and can imagine how complicated the decision is. You want an awesome vape now but want to make the right decision on equipment that will last you a long time and not cost the earth. I am not going to recommend to you what to buy because what works for you may be very different to what has worked for me but I will give you some things to think about that may help you make a better decision.
I stopped stinkies on the Twisp - and remained on Twisp for about six weeks before buying better gear. Twisp had decent flavour but low throat hit. I felt Twisp was too "light" and I wanted more intensity to the vape. I vaped it like a steam train in those first few weeks
After going through a fair amount of equipment I landed up with the REO - and have been happy for the past 3 months.
However, as I posted in my REO impressions after 2 months, I think the REO is especially good for me because I like a strong throat hit - and being a dripper, the REO, or more accurately, the RM2 Reomiser atty can be set up to give a strong throat hit. More so than the Clearos, Kayfuns etc - at least in my opinion. The REO does have many other benefits like excellent flavour and reliability & practicality, but the throat hit on the vape is what does it for me. It's the dripper experience without the hassle of dripping which is keeping me very happy.
However, other folk will be happier with lower throat hit but still great flavour production on say a Nautilus Mini with the new BVC coils. So far this tank has performed the best out of the commercial non-RBA tanks I've tried. After all, if you use a Nautilus Mini with 18mg juice, most folk will say that it packs a strong punch. So you can just go higher on the nic to get more throat hit if you need.
So your choice I think does depend on where your preferences are.
- Do you need more throat hit?
- Are you after more flavour?
- Have you just not found the juices you like?
- Or are you unsure on these?
Then you get the issue of vaping as a hobby and whether you want to "play and tinker". Some people really enjoy building lots of coils and seeing what the difference is. Some enjoy massive power and blowing huge clouds. Some enjoy the actual act of building and tinkering. Dual coils, different wicks, drilling out airholes, modifying atties in drillpresses etc etc.
And lastly you get budget. Going through several devices is costly but the upside is you enjoy the journey and appreciate it more when you reach something that works for you. Trying to pick the perfect device from the start is risky and you may end up wondering "what if I had bought that." What is your budget if I may ask?
Bringing it back to your original goal of stopping stinkies, I will say that to do that one actually doesn't need awesome gear like a REO or some fancy electronic 30W mod. All it takes in my view is to find some juices you really like and a bit of willpower.
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Hi Silver,
Thanks for the great reply. We are on the ego and were so close to quitting (I was down to 2 a day) then we both got sick and the vaping was too thick on our chests so we vaped less and smoked more.
I can't help but think that a better device that gives more flavour will help push us over the edge to stopping.
It is so demoralising reading how everyone is quitting almost immediately and can't help but think that our gear is insufficient at giving us that awesome experience everyone else seems to be having.
Whilst budget is a concern I am prepared to pay a little to get what I need to stop.
I know you said you do not need fancy electronic devices but right now I am looking for something with a bit more power to give the better vapes.
Thanks for the great reply. We are on the ego and were so close to quitting (I was down to 2 a day) then we both got sick and the vaping was too thick on our chests so we vaped less and smoked more.
I can't help but think that a better device that gives more flavour will help push us over the edge to stopping.
It is so demoralising reading how everyone is quitting almost immediately and can't help but think that our gear is insufficient at giving us that awesome experience everyone else seems to be having.
Whilst budget is a concern I am prepared to pay a little to get what I need to stop.
I know you said you do not need fancy electronic devices but right now I am looking for something with a bit more power to give the better vapes.
This chart is NOT to work out the wattage on a mech. It is a chart for the Cana 30W, which has a minimum output voltage of 4.0V. It tells you the minimum wattage required for a range of resistances to attain that minimum output voltage. Thus, giving you an indication of which resistance coils to buy or build for your preferred wattages.
To work out the wattage on a mech, use Ohm's Law inputting 4.2 V (a fully charged battery) and the resistance of your coil to get Watts and Amps. There are many online calculators, e.g.: http://www.onlineconversion.com/ohms_law.htm
Oooo, wow, ok....:
1) Not too sure, maybe more flavour, something where I think "I prefer this to a cig"
2) Quite a few in various nics, even made some of my own
3) mPt2 / iClear 16/d/30 / Evod
4) Changed regularly (too often), even tried building one (totally shorted out
)As you can see I have tried almost anything I can to get a better experience out of our devices...
Hi @bwbwings
Its very tempting for me to jump out quick and say go buy this or that and you will be sorted
But by the sounds of it, you have tried quite a lot (atomiser wise) and juice wise still with no luck.
I will say that many folk have quitted stinkies on the same type of gear that you have tried.
So can understand why you feel demoralised.
But dont wory, if there is a will, there is a way
You are probably right, you need more power.
The way i see it, you have two types of routes:
A) the non-rebuildable route - Nautilus mini and say SVD at a minimum (15 watts of power). Or something more expensive like the Sigelei 20w or 30w or the Hana/cana. Advantage of the 20W or 30w is should you decide to go rebuildable later and want more power, you can
B) the rebuildable route - here the options are endless. If you get a good kayfun type clone that is known to work well, then that can work. Many are happy with that. Powering that up can be done relatively cheaply with a mech like a nemesis or similar. But you could alway use a regulated higher power device too in option A) above if you went for that.
The above are options to consider that will most likely give you a better vape than wht you have now. But finding something that is practical and can be used as a daily workhorse to suit your style is another matter.
Personal preference also comes in to play as well. Its hard to know what you prefer until you've tried it out for a while.
Hoping you can find something that works for you and that you are happy with. You are going about it the right way by doing your research, considering the options and asking for advice.
Its very tempting for me to jump out quick and say go buy this or that and you will be sorted
But by the sounds of it, you have tried quite a lot (atomiser wise) and juice wise still with no luck.
I will say that many folk have quitted stinkies on the same type of gear that you have tried.
So can understand why you feel demoralised.
But dont wory, if there is a will, there is a way
You are probably right, you need more power.
The way i see it, you have two types of routes:
A) the non-rebuildable route - Nautilus mini and say SVD at a minimum (15 watts of power). Or something more expensive like the Sigelei 20w or 30w or the Hana/cana. Advantage of the 20W or 30w is should you decide to go rebuildable later and want more power, you can
B) the rebuildable route - here the options are endless. If you get a good kayfun type clone that is known to work well, then that can work. Many are happy with that. Powering that up can be done relatively cheaply with a mech like a nemesis or similar. But you could alway use a regulated higher power device too in option A) above if you went for that.
The above are options to consider that will most likely give you a better vape than wht you have now. But finding something that is practical and can be used as a daily workhorse to suit your style is another matter.
Personal preference also comes in to play as well. Its hard to know what you prefer until you've tried it out for a while.
Hoping you can find something that works for you and that you are happy with. You are going about it the right way by doing your research, considering the options and asking for advice.
Hi @bwbwings
Its very tempting for me to jump out quick and say go buy this or that and you will be sorted
But by the sounds of it, you have tried quite a lot (atomiser wise) and juice wise still with no luck.
I will say that many folk have quitted stinkies on the same type of gear that you have tried.
So can understand why you feel demoralised.
But dont wory, if there is a will, there is a way
You are probably right, you need more power.
The way i see it, you have two types of routes:
A) the non-rebuildable route - Nautilus mini and say SVD at a minimum (15 watts of power). Or something more expensive like the Sigelei 20w or 30w or the Hana/cana. Advantage of the 20W or 30w is should you decide to go rebuildable later and want more power, you can
B) the rebuildable route - here the options are endless. If you get a good kayfun type clone that is known to work well, then that can work. Many are happy with that. Powering that up can be done relatively cheaply with a mech like a nemesis or similar. But you could alway use a regulated higher power device too in option A) above if you went for that.
The above are options to consider that will most likely give you a better vape than wht you have now. But finding something that is practical and can be used as a daily workhorse to suit your style is another matter.
Personal preference also comes in to play as well. Its hard to know what you prefer until you've tried it out for a while.
Hoping you can find something that works for you and that you are happy with. You are going about it the right way by doing your research, considering the options and asking for advice.
Hi Silver,
Thank you for this, I trust your feedback and you have validated the direction I am leaning towards. I am considering getting the Sigelei 20/30w and or cana 30w.
I want to see how my current atomisers fare on the new device otherwise may look at getting nautilius/mini will see how that works.
Thank you again for the great advise as always.
Looking forward to seeing you at the Meet
Have done a bit of Googling and from what I infer the minimum output voltage of the Sigelei 20 and 30W is 3.1V in real life. That is quite low and will easily give you the lower power ranges should you desire - of course the higher power ranges is available as well. The Cana 30W is 4.oV, which is high - if you have a lower resistance coil on it, you might not get to the lower power you might desire. The IPV 50 W is 3.7V, which will give you access to intermediate power ranges.
Thus, if on you Twists you have only been using the lower settings, go for a Sigelei. If you have been using the higher settings exclusively, the IPV 50W is a good bet.
HRH is using the IPV 50W with a Mini Nautilus. The coils for the Mini Nautilus is 1.8 ohms, but the IPV reads it as 2.0 ohms, allowing HRH to go down to 7W (3.7V). This is working perfectly for her. This Mini Nautilus can, however, be vaped at very high power as well and the IPV 50W is also perfect for rebuildables, if that is in your future.
Taken all you have said above into consideration, my recommendation for you would be the IPV 50W with a Mini Aspire Nautilus. As far as I know only www.vapeclub.co.za stocks the IPV 50 W. They also have the Mini Nautilus and replacement coils for it. Here is a picture of HRH's setup.
Thus, if on you Twists you have only been using the lower settings, go for a Sigelei. If you have been using the higher settings exclusively, the IPV 50W is a good bet.
HRH is using the IPV 50W with a Mini Nautilus. The coils for the Mini Nautilus is 1.8 ohms, but the IPV reads it as 2.0 ohms, allowing HRH to go down to 7W (3.7V). This is working perfectly for her. This Mini Nautilus can, however, be vaped at very high power as well and the IPV 50W is also perfect for rebuildables, if that is in your future.
Taken all you have said above into consideration, my recommendation for you would be the IPV 50W with a Mini Aspire Nautilus. As far as I know only www.vapeclub.co.za stocks the IPV 50 W. They also have the Mini Nautilus and replacement coils for it. Here is a picture of HRH's setup.
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Have done a bit of Googling and from what I infer the minimum output voltage of the Sigelei 20 and 30W is 3.1V in real life. That is quite low and will easily give you the lower power ranges should you desire - of course the higher power ranges is available as well. The Cana 30W is 4.oV, which is high - if you have a lower resistance coil on it, you might not get to the lower power you might desire. The IPV 50 W is 3.7V, which will give you access to intermediate power ranges.
Thus, if on you Twists you have only been using the lower settings, go for a Sigelei. If you have been using the higher settings exclusively, the IPV 50W is a good bet.
HRH is using the IPV 50W with a Mini Nautilus. The coils for the Mini Nautilus is 1.8 ohms, but the IPV reads it as 2.0 ohms, allowing HRH to go down to 7W (3.7V). This is working perfectly for her. This Mini Nautilus can, however, be vaped at very high power as well and the IPV 50W is also perfect for rebuildables, if that is in your future.
Taken all you have said above into consideration, my recommendation for you would be the IPV 50W with a Mini Aspire Nautilus. As far as I know only www.vapeclub.co.za stocks the IPV 50 W. They also have the Mini Nautilus and replacement coils for it. Here is a picture of HRH's setup.
Wow Andre, that is alot to absorb. Thank you for taking the time to lay it out like that.
I am not too sure between higher power and lower power, all I know is I screw on a mPt2 twist the voltage until I get a semi-decent vape and hope it all works.
These hight power options are fairly new to me, thus I am so torn.
What would you recommend between the Sigelei 30w vs the IPV 50w? Quality of build, etc?
I have not had either of these @bwbwings , but bear in mind the shapes. The Sig is a tube and this is a box
The tube looks cool but is much larger and when you put it on a table, it easily falls over
The box is shorter, sits a bit better on a table, doesnt roll and in my view is a more practical shape.
I have never had a Sigelei. @Rob Fisher has one and is most satisfied. From what I have seen on the Internet they are solid mods. Had a Cana 30W and have an IPV 50W, prefer the IPV 50 for quality of build, looks and the lower minimum output voltage. In principle, I prefer box mods - they will stand on the table and not roll around. Of course, it will be amiss of me not to mention above all of these, a Reo is the best.
I personally don't think it's as simple as "get quality vape=quit smoking". There is still the mental side to deal with. There's a mind set change that needs to happen. I've quit smoking cigarettes countless times and the withdrawals were hectic and long. Whereas with vaping(and I started on the twisp), they weren't nearly as severe and lasted two days at the most. Gather the willpower and force yourself to go cold turkey (or cold vaping?), I'm sure you'll realise it's not as bad as you were expecting.
Best of luck, mate.
Best of luck, mate.
And just to throw a spanner in the works... I used a mate's cana and prefer my eVic over it. They are all great mods, my preference is cylindrical. In other words you would probably not go wrong with any of your choices. 
One would never guess that from your avatarAnd just to throw a spanner in the works... I used a mate's cana and prefer my eVic over it. They are all great mods, my preference is cylindrical. In other words you would probably not go wrong with any of your choices.
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Hi @bwbwings
I have a Sigelei 20W, it was my 1st big buy on my vape journey and i don't regret it one moment. The majority of the weight seems to be more in the bottom so that it does not fall over so easy but if you push it it will fall. Build quality is outstanding
The vape:
On my mPT2 with stock coils 2 Ohm DIY 50/50 juice the coil does not wick fast enough and over 9watt you get a burned taste after the second drag. With my own build coils. 1.2ohm Rayon wick i can push it a bit more to 11 watt
What i like is when i want to taste some juice i just made, i pop my iGoW on there push the Sigelei to 20 watt and the iGo purs like a kitten
Battery last me about 36hours if i just use the tanks with my own coil. Green panasonic (it think 3200mah)
I have a Sigelei 20W, it was my 1st big buy on my vape journey and i don't regret it one moment. The majority of the weight seems to be more in the bottom so that it does not fall over so easy but if you push it it will fall. Build quality is outstanding
The vape:
On my mPT2 with stock coils 2 Ohm DIY 50/50 juice the coil does not wick fast enough and over 9watt you get a burned taste after the second drag. With my own build coils. 1.2ohm Rayon wick i can push it a bit more to 11 watt
What i like is when i want to taste some juice i just made, i pop my iGoW on there push the Sigelei to 20 watt and the iGo purs like a kitten
Battery last me about 36hours if i just use the tanks with my own coil. Green panasonic (it think 3200mah)
Great advice from real practice. Would love to hear how your mAN fares on the Sigelei.
Presume you mean "cannot wait"....for it to arrive?That was my 2nd big buy and can wait
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