Wotofo Serpent Mini 25mm

Got my first RTA and it's the SM25.
Took me a few tries to build as it's my first time and thanks to the all the advice and the great video, I finally got it right and my oh my is the flavor awesome!
 

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Must say, best flavour build for me has also been single alien coil, 3mm, 5 wrap. I build it pretty low +- 3mm from airhole, wicked with cotton bacon. Happy days
 
I would love a flavour battle-off.
Ten of the most popular tanks, same wire, same wick and same juice. Builds depend on the owner. :)

What follows is pure opinion ............

I am fairly confident that RDA's will kick ass. Tried the limitless, SM, azeroth, griffin, tornado's and a crapload of RDA's.
I could only get the flavour of how it was meant to be of a specific recipe out of a RDA.
Both the Goon and Sapor 25mm deliver on that special flavour.
Of course a MTL vaper has a different approach but for direct lung hits NOTHING beats a well constructed RDA.

Ps. Yet to try the Avocado :)
 
I would love a flavour battle-off.
Ten of the most popular tanks, same wire, same wick and same juice. Builds depend on the owner. :)

What follows is pure opinion ............

I am fairly confident that RDA's will kick ass. Tried the limitless, SM, azeroth, griffin, tornado's and a crapload of RDA's.
I could only get the flavour of how it was meant to be of a specific recipe out of a RDA.
Both the Goon and Sapor 25mm deliver on that special flavour.
Of course a MTL vaper has a different approach but for direct lung hits NOTHING beats a well constructed RDA.

Ps. Yet to try the Avocado :)
Have you tried the Pharaoh yet?
 
I suspect the Little OL16 will beat all it's actually so simple look at the RM2.... Still the best flavour atty to this day even after three years and counting....
 
How does the SM22 compare with the SM25 and is it difficult to wick and how does it compare with a baby beast

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How does the SM22 compare with the SM25 and is it difficult to wick and how does it compare with a baby beast

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The two Serpents are similar in flavour to me, with the 25 providing much more airflow. I bought the baby beast with rba and it lives in its box - simply cannot compare on flavour.


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Hey guys.

With my Serpent mini 25 it only seems to wick right when I open the top fill cap and then bubbles appear... Any help?
If you are useing round wire then chances are you have too much cotton in the juice wells/coils, if you are using clapton/fancy wire i recommend removing the juice ring(im not sure what its called, the ring clamping the cotton in place, it really makes a difference
 
What an awesome tank! Almost wish I had the means to buy another one, but then again, it won't fit on my Pico and I only have one RX200s. Wicked up, first try, no leaks, no dry hits, flavor for days on Rhodonite, and great clouds. Running the air 1/3 open, 3.5mm ID coil, 24 awg Nichrome 80, 8 wraps. Comes to 0.75 ohm, preheat to 45W for 1 second, then to 35W and I love it! Unfortunately it seems the @hands tip I ordered from the sirs is not as in the photo, so while I'm trying to sort that out, I'm rocking a green tip.

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Just some feedback about removing the rings. I tried it on both my SM25's and had juice peeing out of the airflow holes. So I re built with the rings back on. Doesn't work for me. I also tried duel coils at 3.5 ID with 22 Ga Kanthal, my favorite wire. Too big, causes shorts. My most effective and leak proof build is Nichrome 80, 24 Ga, 3.0 ID, 8 wraps coming out at 0.30 to O.32 Ohms. Cotton: organic cotton pads rolled the Scottish method. The Vape is awesome.


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Just some feedback about removing the rings. I tried it on both my SM25's and had juice peeing out of the airflow holes. So I re built with the rings back on. Doesn't work for me. I also tried duel coils at 3.5 ID with 22 Ga Kanthal, my favorite wire. Too big, causes shorts. My most effective and leak proof build is Nichrome 80, 24 Ga, 3.0 ID, 8 wraps coming out at 0.30 to O.32 Ohms. Cotton: organic cotton pads rolled the Scottish method. The Vape is awesome.


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Hi @Waine

I rewicked last night and took out the wick ring for the first time - i got a very bad leak too!

I have a single coil in there that has worked very nicely for some time. On the odd refill I would get a tiny leak but it would subside.

After refilling last night, it leaked heavily. Not sure where it was coming out of because I was worried it would damage my hotcig 150 so i was clamouring for toilet paper to wipe it up and take off the tank. I chatted to Rob Fisher who has more experience than me on this tank and he suggested I remove the base seal o ring and reseat it, which i did. (The one just above the base when you screw off the base to access the deck) It looked like it was seated fine but I did it anyway.

That seemed to fix it and its working fine now with no leaks on this current tankful

Not sure why it did that leak. Dont know if it was the removal of the wick ring or the way I wicked it but I pretty much did it exactly the same as i have done before when the wick ring was there.

I have a single 24g NI80 3.5mm ID coil with Cotton Bacon wick

The one thing that puzzles me with some rebuildable tanks is the way they sometimes behave - and unless you are an expert you never really know what you did wrong so you redo things a few times till it works and you just hope for the best. Not the best feeling.... Lol...
 
@Rob Fisher I took these photos after wicking without the wick ring last night. Before the leak.

Was meaning to post them for you to have a look.

The one looks better than the other. I was trying to get it so that the wick just touches the floor of the wick channels.

This side doesn't look that good. Not very even.
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This side looks better
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How does it look to you? This is after lubing it up with juice

The tanks is vaping beautifully though.
 
I've had similar experience with this tank never thought about the o-ring seal thanks for the tip. I kind of feel the same one must always fiddle and fidget with some RTAs which gets annoying and I'm already not the most patient being.... Anyway just need to get me another mod and I will try out the Serpent again (hmmm now I wonder why they called it the Serpent one wrong move and it bites you...)
 
@Rob Fisher I took these photos after wicking without the wick ring last night. Before the leak.

Was meaning to post them for you to have a look.

The one looks better than the other. I was trying to get it so that the wick just touches the floor of the wick channels.

This side doesn't look that good. Not very even.
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This side looks better
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How does it look to you? This is after lubing it up with juice

The tanks is vaping beautifully though.

Looks great Hi Ho @Silver... I am also testing one of my SM25's where the tails don't go all the way into the juice channels... I watched Grimm Green's wicking of the SM22 and thought I would give that option a test... it also seems to work... will see how we go with it today...
 
Looks great Hi Ho @Silver... I am also testing one of my SM25's where the tails don't go all the way into the juice channels... I watched Grimm Green's wicking of the SM22 and thought I would give that option a test... it also seems to work... will see how we go with it today...
Howsit Rob,

I thought I was going to have to sell my SM 25 because I kept getting leaks and dry hit no matter how I wicked it.
I probably wicked this thing 30 times before changing to a 5 wrap 3mm alien build with the wicks just resting on the Juice channels.... And I must say this thing is amazing and I cant get over how intense the flavour is.
 
Howsit Rob,

I thought I was going to have to sell my SM 25 because I kept getting leaks and dry hit no matter how I wicked it.
I probably wicked this thing 30 times before changing to a 5 wrap 3mm alien build with the wicks just resting on the Juice channels.... And I must say this thing is amazing and I cant get over how intense the flavour is.

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner! :b1:
 
Howsit Rob,

I thought I was going to have to sell my SM 25 because I kept getting leaks and dry hit no matter how I wicked it.
I probably wicked this thing 30 times before changing to a 5 wrap 3mm alien build with the wicks just resting on the Juice channels.... And I must say this thing is amazing and I cant get over how intense the flavour is.

@Jasonjardine07 what wicking material have you been using? If you are not using Cotton Bacon or The Cotton Collection that makes a HUGE difference!
 
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