Rayon Cellucotton Wicking Tutorial And Review

[Silver]

Thanks to @Rob Fisher , I got some Rayon at the Vape Meet.

Here are my initial impressions after about a tank of use in my REO Mini with VM Choc Mint, a juice I know very well.

Initial Rayon Impressions
- its good, but regarding the vape itself, I still prefer organic cotton slightly.
- I wicked it just like I did with cotton. It's a 1.5mm 1.3 ohm 28g coil, so nothing too hot or powerful
- the flavour is pretty much the same as cotton
- to me the throat hit feels a bit less. This is a negative for me.
- it feels to me that the draw is a bit tighter. As if its very slightly choking. Or if the cotton is airier than the Rayon. Not sure.
- I find that it doesn't vaporise as smoothly as cotton. A bit more spluttering going on. When I take off the driptip, there is more juice droplets at the base of the driptip than with cotton. Cotton seems to vaporise the juice crisper and more "cleanly" if that's the correct way of describing it. I found this spluttering got worse as the tank got toward the end.
- When it starts getting dry it "pops" and crackles a bit. This does not happen with cotton.

Despite these minor negatives, the vape is still good and the flavour is good. I have had no dry hits, but then again, I am quite a diligent squonker so I hardly have dry hits with organic cotton either. And this not a high power coil.

I will continue using it and see if it lasts longer. With organic cotton I tend to rewick after about 5ml of juice since I can observe a drop off in flavour. Lets see how long the flavour of Rayon lasts.

I still need to experiment with a bit more and a bit less Rayon in this coil

Please bear in mind that these are initial impressions. I will persevere and try it in a few different setups. Just wanted to jot down and share my initial thoughts.

 

[Alex]

Thanks to @Rob Fisher , I got some Rayon at the Vape Meet.

Here are my initial impressions after about a tank of use in my REO Mini with VM Choc Mint, a juice I know very well.

Initial Rayon Impressions
- its good, but regarding the vape itself, I still prefer organic cotton slightly.
- I wicked it just like I did with cotton. It's a 1.5mm 1.3 ohm 28g coil, so nothing too hot or powerful
- the flavour is pretty much the same as cotton
- to me the throat hit feels a bit less. This is a negative for me.
- it feels to me that the draw is a bit tighter. As if its very slightly choking. Or if the cotton is airier than the Rayon. Not sure.
- I find that it doesn't vaporise as smoothly as cotton. A bit more spluttering going on. When I take off the driptip, there is more juice droplets at the base of the driptip than with cotton. Cotton seems to vaporise the juice crisper and more "cleanly" if that's the correct way of describing it. I found this spluttering got worse as the tank got toward the end.
- When it starts getting dry it "pops" and crackles a bit. This does not happen with cotton.

Despite these minor negatives, the vape is still good and the flavour is good. I have had no dry hits, but then again, I am quite a diligent squonker so I hardly have dry hits with organic cotton either. And this not a high power coil.

I will continue using it and see if it lasts longer. With organic cotton I tend to rewick after about 5ml of juice since I can observe a drop off in flavour. Lets see how long the flavour of Rayon lasts.

I still need to experiment with a bit more and a bit less Rayon in this coil

Please bear in mind that these are initial impressions. I will persevere and try it in a few different setups. Just wanted to jot down and share my initial thoughts.

@Silver, the spluttering is a sure sign that you don't have enough going through the coil, next time make it a bit tighter. Unlike cotton which expands when wet, the Rayon does not.

 

[NickT]

I have 4 metres of the stuff arriving on my doorstep tomorrow. I really hope it is all it's generally cracked up to be.

 

[Yiannaki]

Thanks to @Rob Fisher , I got some Rayon at the Vape Meet.

Here are my initial impressions after about a tank of use in my REO Mini with VM Choc Mint, a juice I know very well.

Initial Rayon Impressions
- its good, but regarding the vape itself, I still prefer organic cotton slightly.
- I wicked it just like I did with cotton. It's a 1.5mm 1.3 ohm 28g coil, so nothing too hot or powerful
- the flavour is pretty much the same as cotton
- to me the throat hit feels a bit less. This is a negative for me.
- it feels to me that the draw is a bit tighter. As if its very slightly choking. Or if the cotton is airier than the Rayon. Not sure.
- I find that it doesn't vaporise as smoothly as cotton. A bit more spluttering going on. When I take off the driptip, there is more juice droplets at the base of the driptip than with cotton. Cotton seems to vaporise the juice crisper and more "cleanly" if that's the correct way of describing it. I found this spluttering got worse as the tank got toward the end.
- When it starts getting dry it "pops" and crackles a bit. This does not happen with cotton.

Despite these minor negatives, the vape is still good and the flavour is good. I have had no dry hits, but then again, I am quite a diligent squonker so I hardly have dry hits with organic cotton either. And this not a high power coil.

I will continue using it and see if it lasts longer. With organic cotton I tend to rewick after about 5ml of juice since I can observe a drop off in flavour. Lets see how long the flavour of Rayon lasts.

I still need to experiment with a bit more and a bit less Rayon in this coil

Please bear in mind that these are initial impressions. I will persevere and try it in a few different setups. Just wanted to jot down and share my initial thoughts.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the rayon @Silver . Taking into consideration that these are only your initial impressions, it's interesting to note how different people's preferences are.

I'm with @Alex on the idea of being a little bit more generous with the rayon going through the coil.

I think for me, I realised how great it was after vaping it exclusively for 3 days and then going back to cotton. I found that I missed the rayon. I felt as if the flavour coming through on the rayon was a lot sharper, almost as if the cotton altered the flavour somewhat in comparison to it.

Keep us posted on your thoughts and findings

 

[Riaz]

@Silver I'm going to have to agree with the other guys here. I most appreciated the rayon when I tried cotton again afterwards.
To me the rayon is more crispier and flavorful, again this is compared to cotton.
Use it for a couple of days then try out cotton again and see if you notice a difference.


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[Silver]

Thanks for all the feedback guys
Thanks @Alex, I will try with a little bit more rayon and see if the splutter goes away
Thanks @Riaz, I will use the rayon for a while on that device, then go back to cotton and compare

 

[Marzuq]

howist guys. has anyone noticed that rayon has a sweeter taste to it. its not the sweetness of the juice coming out. jst a sweeter taste in general

 

[Yiannaki]

howist guys. has anyone noticed that rayon has a sweeter taste to it. its not the sweetness of the juice coming out. jst a sweeter taste in general

Can't say that i've noticed that man.

 

[Gazzacpt]

howist guys. has anyone noticed that rayon has a sweeter taste to it. its not the sweetness of the juice coming out. jst a sweeter taste in general

Some folks do say that cotton filters out some nuances in ejuice so you might be onto something

 

[BumbleBee]

I've been using rayon for a few weeks now, after @Silver's first impressions review and the comments that followed I thought I'd give some cotton a go again. I changed out the rayon to cotton on my 1.0 ohm 28g coil on my dripper last night. I didn't really notice a big change in flavour but the clouds almost seem a little more dense, the vape is slightly softer on the inhale. What I definitely noticed though is that the vapour off rayon is more moist, cotton is drier.

 

[Silver]

Hi all, just a quick Rayon update

Its now been 2 days of use on the Reo mini and RM2 with the 1.3 ohm coil and VM Choc Mint

I tried rewicking it a tiny bit tighter, i.e. with a little bit more rayon. Thanks @Alex for the tip, the spluttering is almost gone.

While its a bit better, I still think it feels like its not vaporising as much and the draw is definitely a little bit tighter. In reaction I find myself trying to press the fire button a bit harder. Lol.

Flavour is good, but cant say any better than cotton.
Throat hit seems a bit less

Could be the VM Choc Mint juice that doesnt work well with Rayon but I doubt it. Maybe its the 1.5mm iD that is too small. But I doubt that too.

I will continue for another day or two and see what the longevity is like.

 

[Silver]

PS - what I forgot to mention in my previous post, is that I have noticed with the Rayon I get more puffs between squonks than with organic cotton

Instead of 4 or 5 and then starting to taste the dryness (with organic cotton), I am easily getting 8 to 10 puffs, without tasting any dryness.

This is a positive thing since you don't have to squonk as often.

Perhaps it's because it absorbs more juice.

But maybe it's because it doesn't vaporise as much juice per puff. This may also explain the slightly lower throat hit I'm observing. Not sure though. Just trying to piece it together.

 

[Marzuq]

PS - what I forgot to mention in my previous post, is that I have noticed with the Rayon I get more puffs between squonks than with organic cotton

Instead of 4 or 5 and then starting to taste the dryness (with organic cotton), I am easily getting 8 to 10 puffs, without tasting any dryness.

This is a positive thing since you don't have to squonk as often.

Perhaps it's because it absorbs more juice.

But maybe it's because it doesn't vaporise as much juice per puff. This may also explain the slightly lower throat hit I'm observing. Not sure though. Just trying to piece it together.

i think you might be onto something there @Silver.
initially i thought that with rayon being more absorbent id be running through alot more juice as more would be vaporized with each vape. bbut thats not the case at all. i also noticed more gurgling occuring with rayon but then when i expected the rayon i found that i needed to squonk less as the rayon held onto the juice for longer.

very good observation !

 

[Silver]

Hi all

Something went wrong with my Rayon wick - after about 5,2ml of vaping on the Reo Mini (2 bottles worth)
It wasn't vaporising properly, so when I refilled I checked out the wick and discovered that on the one side, it was much thinner.

Very strange, since when I wicked it this second time, I made sure it was a bit tighter and I put a bit more Rayon in than I would have done with cotton.

Here is the photo - not so easy to see - but the left side of the coil is where it has "thinned" out quite a bit.


Maybe this VM Choc Mint is not too good for Rayon. I know it does murder coils and wicks because it's quite dark. I will try again with another flavour at a later point.

Anyway, I have reverted back to cotton for now - to see the difference.

Not much flavour difference
Better vaporisation so far

I will try Rayon again soon

 

[Yiannaki]

Hi all

Something went wrong with my Rayon wick - after about 5,2ml of vaping on the Reo Mini (2 bottles worth)
It wasn't vaporising properly, so when I refilled I checked out the wick and discovered that on the one side, it was much thinner.

Very strange, since when I wicked it this second time, I made sure it was a bit tighter and I put a bit more Rayon in than I would have done with cotton.

Here is the photo - not so easy to see - but the left side of the coil is where it has "thinned" out quite a bit.
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Maybe this VM Choc Mint is not too good for Rayon. I know it does murder coils and wicks because it's quite dark. I will try again with another flavour at a later point.

Anyway, I have reverted back to cotton for now - to see the difference.

Not much flavour difference
Better vaporisation so far

I will try Rayon again soon

@Silver is it maybe possible the rayon burnt in the middle and the thinned out area is slipping out of the coil?

I had an issue the other day where i burnt the rayon and one side started slipping out of the coil. I think it was a lack of saturation that caused it.

I do remember you saying you always squonk regularly so I'm not sure if that was the cause though.

 

[Silver]

@Silver is it maybe possible the rayon burnt in the middle and the thinned out area is slipping out of the coil?

I had an issue the other day where i burnt the rayon and one side started slipping out of the coil. I think it was a lack of saturation that caused it.

I do remember you saying you always squonk regularly so I'm not sure if that was the cause though.

You know what @Yiannaki - I think you may be right.
When I pulled out that Rayon, I recall the two sides came out separately to one another.
This means that it could have burned in the middle.
Strange though, since I don't recall a dry hit taste on that wick while I was using it.
Maybe the Rayon pulled apart slightly and thats what caused the lower vaporisation.

Whatever the case, thanks for the suggestion. That was sharp!

Next time I wick with Rayon I will be extra careful and make sure that all is in tact.

 

[Reonat]

I have a confession. .. I tried Tampax once again and this time it worked beautifully. I may have been too new at the whole coil business the first time I tried it and fried it a bit. So for anybody in a bind ... you have options.

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[johan]

LOL, can you imagine me standing at the till with a box of Tampax. I'd honestly rather vape wickless.

 

[annemarievdh]

I have a confession. .. I tried Tampax once again and this time it worked beautifully. I may have been too new at the whole coil business the first time I tried it and fried it a bit. So for anybody in a bind ... you have options.

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Hahahaha Tampax? Really?


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[Yiannaki]

You know what @Yiannaki - I think you may be right.
When I pulled out that Rayon, I recall the two sides came out separately to one another.
This means that it could have burned in the middle.
Strange though, since I don't recall a dry hit taste on that wick while I was using it.
Maybe the Rayon pulled apart slightly and thats what caused the lower vaporisation.

Whatever the case, thanks for the suggestion. That was sharp!

Next time I wick with Rayon I will be extra careful and make sure that all is in tact.

Its a pleasure Glad i could help/advise you for a change

 

[Silver]

Its a pleasure Glad i could help/advise you for a change

By all means, please go ahead, not just for now - but for always!
The more help we give each other - the better our vaping experience

 

[Reonat]

Hahahaha Tampax? Really?


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Yup for real. .. takes a bit of disentangling as there are layers of Rayon within cotton gauze type stuff but it worked.

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[annemarievdh]

Wow, i'm gona get me some Tampax tomorrow


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[Yiannaki]

Yup for real. .. takes a bit of disentangling as there are layers of Rayon within cotton gauze type stuff but it worked.

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Wow, i'm gona get me some Tampax tomorrow


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I foresee a 'Tampax Wicking Tutorial And Review" thread popping up soon!

 

[annemarievdh]

I foresee a 'Tampax Wicking Tutorial And Review" thread popping up soon!

Hahaha that is so funny!!!


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