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But we NEED THE VAPOORZZZ!!!

Exactly, right there is a secret recipe. One good way to protect the juice from being cloned.

Well you're running at twice my watts at half the resistance and your batteries only have 500mAh more than mine...sooo you're about on par. 230 pufffs sounds correct. Drop your watts and raise your resistance and you'll get +- equal puffs to mine. That is 400 puffs. 1500 sounds sketchy. That...

So then what's the problem? If they're not 1-1 copies of the ejuice then it shows that the vendors product is over engineered and the people would be willing to make a sacrifice on quality for cost saving. Then they're not buying a "copy" they're buying a different , but very similar, product.

Granted that is true. But if those processes weren't obvious then the juices wouldn't be easy to copy(or figure out how to copy) and we wouldn't be discussing this.

I'm not saying they are, I'm merely stating that moaning about vendors copying recipes and reselling isn't going to solve anything as it's a free market. *snip*

It's not piracy if it's not patented/copyrighted.

We can start a seperate thread to dicuss this.

Yeah I did derail this thread. Only because I'm so frustrated with Ejuice makers price locking. My apologies. no more from me.

yeah and even with those fictional figures you came to a lower number than the actual price of ejuice. R50 - R100 per hour seems more like it. say you make 1L an hour(if not more , this is easily achievable). and it costs R15 for the ingredients.(including bottle and label) per bottle then it's...

Hourly rate of R1000???? Jesus I'm a qualified software engineer and I don't make that in a day of work. let alone an hour. This is where greed and price fixing comes in.

I agree.But: 1)Their products aren't a consumable. 2) They have patents. 3) They have a unique design that works and can't easily be copied.(also because of the nature of the product , requiring highly specialised equipment to manufacture.) Everything ejuice doesn't have. quick summary of...

That's fine and dandy. But then no one can complain when someone else is willing to make juice for less per hour. If it's taking that long to make juice , then maybe something needs to change in the process used to make the juice. I mean goodness, it's literally stirring like 10 ingredients...

I have a cuboid. I run 2x Samsung 25R's in it and get around 400 puffs @ 4 secs a puff. Velocity RDA with a 0.4 ohm dual coil @ 45-50 Watts.

That's simply not true. bread,sugar, petrol , rent, cars are only at a similar price because that's the lowest they can go and still make a profit. Should we get a surplus of bread tomorrow, then the market will react . Bread will go on special, prices will drop. You won't see PnP keeping their...

While we're at it . Juice makers are going to have a rude awakening when someone else comes along and offers juices at a far lower price. There's no such thing as a "Benchmarked" price in a free market. The reason you're losing money to the copiers is because the consumer doesn't give two shits...

Adapt your business model or stop selling juice. What happened in Software when companies were fighting off piracy? They either : 1) Made it very difficult to copy their software with DRM, etc. 2) Made a new business model that made the software free to use with added extras costing you.(most...

Please note in your picture the Samsung 25R's are the blue batteries. But in your OP you label them as green.

Alas I have already purchased a mech mod. Thanks for the offer though.

Thanks for the safety tips...but I don't have a hybrid device( I have a Nemesis mech mod).I should mention that my nemesis has a top cap, with a screw in pin that connects to the atty's positive post. But it's still appreciated as someone else might find that link useful. I'll add it to the...