Bad news on LG HG2s

[JakesSA]

Don't get me wrong @ShaneW the battery clearly is fake and I [LOUDLY] applaud all your efforts to make this transparent, the problem is the photo of that sticker may be somewhat misleading for other people who had sourced their batteries from elsewhere. This thread is now in the general section and it may not be apparent to some that it applies to your shipment specifically.

 

[ShaneW]

Don't get me wrong @ShaneW the battery clearly is fake and I [LOUDLY] applaud all your efforts to make this transparent, the problem is the photo of that sticker may be somewhat misleading for other people who had sourced their batteries from elsewhere. This thread is now in the general section and it may not be apparent to some that it applies to your shipment specifically.

Cool, point taken and OP edited

 

[Silver]

Have moved several of the above posts (from @ShaneW 's post onwards) to this existing thread
Will be helpful to monitor this issue all in one place -

 

[jlw777]

I will be bringing in sizable amounts of VTC5 and 25R's straight from factory. But I have to sea freight them. Will be for vendors only.

Sticker on the battery is required for air shipment, no stick for sea freights. Hope this device would verify the authenticity of the batteries to put all vendors at ease.

 

[KB_314]

Stop the bus right here please.

Lots of the fake vs real info at the top is incorrect or highly subjective. Please take the time to read the full article quoted at battery bros. Sorry to have to say it but removing the wrapper is required to make a proper judgement based on appearance.

@ShaneW, please remove the image comparing the the white stickers on the outside of the battery. These are applied after the fact by the wholesalers as per IATA airfreight regulations and can take any format. It is also not mentioned anywhere by battery bros comparison.

Be careful of trusting the kitchen scale for measurements. The MSDS from LG which I compare our batteries against, shows the following:
Max 48 grams 44-45 grams actual. If you are within a gram of that you are likely already stretching the limits of kitchen scale accuracy.

The darker inner ring on the positive side is the easiest way to detect the real version together with the markings mentioned in the article, both of these require removing the insulator. Rubbing your nail against the white insulator will show if its smooth or not.

I would like to see all vendors affected by this please post the name of their wholesalers in China so that these criminals can be avoided. There is no middle layer between the manufacturer and the wholesalers so if the battery is fake the wholesaler is most likely responsible.

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I hear you. The article was very detailed and everyone should read it properly. (Even still though, the differences seem like things that can be addressed by counterfeiters relatively easily). Unfortunately for me, it just reaffirms my suspicions. I recently re-wrapped some HG2's with wraps that are slightly translucent. In this pic, (2 batteries from 2 different vendors) the newer one is on the left and is one that I was underwhelmed by.

 

[Feliks Karp]

What is the general consensus are these batteries just inferior in performance or are they unsafe?

Isn't that the same thing when you expect a particular CDR and get much less?

 

[JakesSA]

I will be bringing in sizable amounts of VTC5 and 25R's straight from factory. But I have to sea freight them. Will be for vendors only.

Sticker on the battery is required for air shipment, no stick for sea freights. Hope this device would verify the authenticity of the batteries to put all vendors at ease.

VTC5s? I'd tread lightly if I was you ..

 

[jlw777]

VTC5s? I'd tread lightly if I was you ..

I've being importing solar power generating equipments and deep cycle batteries (100 ah up to 250ah) and I go direct to the factory and not through any resellers or distributors.

I know it will be original, I just need this machine to prove to my customers

 

[JakesSA]

No offense but VTC5s are very controversial batteries. There are letters with Sony letterheads floating around on Reddit stating that they no longer manufacture these batteries.

 

[JakesSA]

PS: Do you bring in solar panels?

 

[jlw777]

PS: Do you bring in solar panels?

Thanks for the VTC heads up. I will confirm with the factory. They were telling me that panasonic has the best battery tech, is that true?

I got 250w panels that puts out healthy amount of volts and amps. If you interested let me know

 

[JakesSA]

Panasonic has no high current draw batteries that I am aware of. However I understand Tesla uses 18650 Panasonic cells which may not have been considered for the vaping market yet.

Good news on the panels, I am looking at putting up a 2KW grid tied set with load limiting inverter. Will send you a pm.

 

[Christos]

Panasonic has no high current draw batteries that I am aware of. However I udnerstand Tesla uses 18650 Panasonic cells which may not have been considered for the vaping market yet.

Good news on the panels, I am looking at putting up a 2KW grid tied set with load limiting inverter. Will send you a pm.

I'm also interested in a grid tied system.
Would love to see the pricing though.

 

[Baker]

@JakesSA , what about those 0's?

 

[Migs]

I hate how china wants to clone everything, they don't even think about the complication a fake battery can have on a series mech mod...

 

[RichJB]

I got 250w panels that puts out healthy amount of volts and amps.

Do they come with a 510 connector?

 

[JakesSA]

@JakesSA , what about those 0's?

Sorry which 0s?

 

[Baker]

Sorry which 0s?

You must've missed my post a little higher up...

There is a comment on the battery bro article noting that the 0's on the fake cell is different. It's clear to me too. Do u think this could be a definitive sign of a fake? If so, it could be the easiest way to tell.

Different compared to the authentic batteries that is.

 

[SpiralSequence]

I have had issues now with my HG2 battery. I am using a ipvd 2 and at about 40% the mod kicks out check battery. My Samsung 25r don't have these issues.

I am curiously considering returning this battery as this is not performing up to standard. When I put in to charge it says it's pretty flat. But still OK in the mod.

Couple of pictures of my LG battery.

 

[BuzzGlo]

Hi guys got these from a forum member who got them from a forum member who got them from sir vape apparently. Cant be sure. I did some whatapping after I found out about LG issue.

Can anyone advise me if I have anything to worry about. I cant tell at all.



p.s: I know I need new battery wraps.

 

[zadiac]

Take a closer pic of the positive insulators. Can't see with this pic.

 

[BuzzGlo]

better?

 

[JakesSA]

Scratch your nail across the white insulator lightly, are they smooth or does it have a slight texture to it?

 

[BuzzGlo]

Scratch your nail across the white insulator lightly, are they smooth or does it have a slight texture to it?

They are coarse, textured... That means they legit, right?

 

[JakesSA]

It's likely, considering the evidence at hand.