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When steeping a Cream and fruit.
Do you allow the cream to steep first or mix both and wait for the mix a week later

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I mix them together in the hopes that it'll keep steep time to a minimum. Unless I'm doing it wrong?
 
When steeping a Cream and fruit.
Do you allow the cream to steep first or mix both and wait for the mix a week later

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When I mix a cream or a custard into anything, I allow it to steep a minimum of 14 days. Would also like to know if there is another way.
 
I mix everything all at once and let it steep.

There might be something to Layered Steeping but I'm pretty sure it will only be in very specific cases. The creams will need to react with the fruit flavors so as soon as you add the fruit you will have extra reactions starting to take place. Logic tells me that this will Increase steeping time cause the creams will need to react with the fruit now. You might get a really nice flavor right after adding the fruit though (Semi Steeped cream and full flavored fruit) but then a limited time to vape before it would taste as though you added them at the same time.
 
Any1 that can help

I've been mixing them together
Is there another way.

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I have come across just one person that does layered steeping, but that is usually for complex recipes. Not for me - I would rather steep longer than do it that way. Layered steeping, as I see it, means adding some concentrates to your VG/PG/Nic, let those steep, then add more ingredients, shake and let the mix steep and so on.

There is another way (concentrates steeping) where you mix just your concentrates. E.g. for a Strawberry shake you mix say a total of 10 ml of concentrates (all FA) as follows: Strawberry 70% (7 ml), Cream Fresh 15% (1.5 ml), Catalan Cream 5% (0.5 ml), Vanilla Bourbon 10% (1.0 ml). Then you let the concentrate mix steep for 3 to 5 days. Only then do you mix your PG/VG/Nic to which you add your chosen percentage of the concentrate mix, e.g. 5 %. Once you have added the concentrate mix, you can just shake and vape (except for custards). This method seems to require the shortest steep time. This is the way FlavourArt UK recommends. See their reasoning and some recipes (example above comes from there) here.
 
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I mix everything all at once and let it steep.

There might be something to Layered Steeping but I'm pretty sure it will only be in very specific cases. The creams will need to react with the fruit flavors so as soon as you add the fruit you will have extra reactions starting to take place. Logic tells me that this will Increase steeping time cause the creams will need to react with the fruit now. You might get a really nice flavor right after adding the fruit though (Semi Steeped cream and full flavored fruit) but then a limited time to vape before it would taste as though you added them at the same time.
Which I have been doing.
Steeping them together

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I have come across just one person that does layered steeping, but that is usually for complex recipes. Not for me - I would rather steep longer than do it that way. Layered steeping, as I see it, means adding some concentrates to your VG/PG/Nic, let those steep, then add more ingredients, shake and let the mix steep and so on.

There is another way (concentrates steeping) where you mix just your concentrates. E.g. for a Strawberry shake you mix say a total of 10 ml of concentrates (all FA) as follows: Strawberry 70% (7 ml), Cream Fresh 15% (1.5 ml), Catalan Cream 5% (0.5 ml), Vanilla Bourbon 10% (1.0 ml). Then you let the concentrate mix steep for 3 to 5 days. Only then do you mix your PG/VG/Nic to which you add your chosen percentage of the concentrate mix, e.g. 5 %. Once you have added the concentrate mix, you can just shake and vape (except for custards). This method seems to require the shortest steep time. This is the way FlavourArt UK recommends. See their reasoning and some recipes (example above comes from there) here.
Layers sounds like a Huge mission.
But is possible and is done.

But I say as a DIYer all at once will be fine

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I have this old Milk Tart Recipe that some of you may like. It tastes pretty good and I have had many compliments for it but its major downfall is that it does not steep well. Shake and Vape but almost no good after about 4 weeks. The Cinnamon looks a bit high but it works. You could try and reduce it but to me it took away from the end result and also did not solve the steeping problem. This is a high flavour percentage juice from way back but if you keep the ratios the same and reduce it may still work fine. VM = Vapour Mountain, and can not be subbed. If you mix it let me know what you think!

PG/VG 30/70

TFA French Vanilla 5%
VM Custard 5%
VM Cinnamon 3%
EM 10% - 1%
VM Cream 2%
VM Shortbread 2%
 
I have this old Milk Tart Recipe that some of you may like. It tastes pretty good and I have had many compliments for it but its major downfall is that it does not steep well. Shake and Vape but almost no good after about 4 weeks. The Cinnamon looks a bit high but it works. You could try and reduce it but to me it took away from the end result and also did not solve the steeping problem. This is a high flavour percentage juice from way back but if you keep the ratios the same and reduce it may still work fine. VM = Vapour Mountain, and can not be subbed. If you mix it let me know what you think!

PG/VG 30/70

TFA French Vanilla 5%
VM Custard 5%
VM Cinnamon 3%
EM 10% - 1%
VM Cream 2%
VM Shortbread 2%

Thank you very much!
 
Haha well it's just the sugar cookie, the others are readily available locally, no?

Interestingly no one is freaking out at local flavour vendors over the price differential between 100ml vanilla custard from the UK vs locally.. just saying… :rolleyes:
Wait for import tax...
 
Wait for import tax...

I don't expect much in the form of import tax (that's my order Method1 was referring to), my experience is it's around R60 per $20. My total order was came to around R800, or $50 at the time, I'm expecting to pay between R120 to R150.
 
I don't expect much in the form of import tax (that's my order Method1 was referring to), my experience is it's around R60 per $20. My total order was came to around R800, or $50 at the time, I'm expecting to pay between R120 to R150.
I have been nailed with insane duties. It all depends what comes in, music gear for example is duty free no tax on a guitar from the UK, but I did get whapped with R1000 for a t-shirt before. I told them to keep it.
 
Can only say good thing about FA Watermelon, TFA Watermelon not so good IMO. I sub out TFA Watermelon with FA, I just half the percentages ie. if the recipe calls for 4% TFA Watermelon I add 2% FA Watermeon.
TFA Watermelon Candy, steer clear as it adds a whollop of TH to any juice. Smells amazing but it makes 3mg juice burns your throat like your running 12mg Nic.
 
My go to Watermelon would be FA to.

I havent tried FW or INW though.

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Most of my go to fruits are FA actually, they are really some of the nicest and haven't had a bad one from them yet.

Capella seems to be the same for creams, their creams, custards, yougurt etc seem to be the Most consistent.
 
It surprises me how little FA concentrates get used. We've had the "how to make top-rated juices as a n00b" thread in the last few days and I looked through their recipes. It's TFA for days, quite a bit of Cap, not very much FA or Inw at all. I can understand the Inw as not that many vendors stock the full line and it's quite pricey. But I'd have thought that DIYers globally would be on FA like a cheap suit.
 
Most of my go to fruits are FA actually, they are really some of the nicest and haven't had a bad one from them yet.

Capella seems to be the same for creams, their creams, custards, yougurt etc seem to be the Most consistent.
Yip FA is really good with Fruits. Just Strawberry, I prefer both the TFA ones.

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