Calling all DIY'ers

[RichJB]

I've been very good so far, hence me only making the two fruit recipes out of the 28 submitted. There are others among the 28 that sound good but I'm not buying new concentrates for them. The judges were raving about atommcree's Forbidden Fruit and Apexified's Lingonberry. But I ain't getting Inw Cherries and Two Apples, and TFA's Cranberry and Huckleberry, to make them. Apexified has more than 800 flavours apparently and he can still only make around 70% of the recipes on ATF. It's madness.

But the search for ADVs continues. I'm still stuck on just two: Funfetti and Simply Cannoli. I've had other good juices since but nothing that has made the cut. It's weird when you start looking at concentrates in ADV terms rather than just in general reputation terms. FW Butterscotch Ripple is the bomb as a standalone Butterscotch but I haven't found an ADV that uses it. By contrast, everybody hates FA Joy with a passion (as standalone) but it's in both of my ADVs so far. That has given me a new perspective on concentrates.

 

[Faheem777]

I've been very good so far, hence me only making the two fruit recipes out of the 28 submitted. There are others among the 28 that sound good but I'm not buying new concentrates for them. The judges were raving about atommcree's Forbidden Fruit and Apexified's Lingonberry. But I ain't getting Inw Cherries and Two Apples, and TFA's Cranberry and Huckleberry, to make them. Apexified has more than 800 flavours apparently and he can still only make around 70% of the recipes on ATF. It's madness.

But the search for ADVs continues. I'm still stuck on just two: Funfetti and Simply Cannoli. I've had other good juices since but nothing that has made the cut. It's weird when you start looking at concentrates in ADV terms rather than just in general reputation terms. FW Butterscotch Ripple is the bomb as a standalone Butterscotch but I haven't found an ADV that uses it. By contrast, everybody hates FA Joy with a passion (as standalone) but it's in both of my ADVs so far. That has given me a new perspective on concentrates.

Hey @RichJB what percentage do you recommend FW Butterscotch Ripple as a standalone? I've only ever used it as a supporting flavour.

 

[RichJB]

I wouldn't vape it as a standalone, what I mean by 'standalone' is that it's a superior Butterscotch on its own merits. But it would still need to be in a mix imo. However, if you want to try it standalone, I reckon 5% would be about right. It's not the most potent flavour and even in mixes it's often used up to around 4% or so.

That said, an experienced mixer was telling me yesterday that he only considers Ripple the best in creams and bakeries. For other uses, he reckons Flv Butterscotch is unbeatable. I don't have it and won't get it unless I can find some multi-5 star recipe with it which promises to be an ADV. But I'll keep it in mind.

 

[therazia]

Yay, I can make 3 of the flavours from the contest.

 

[Effjh]

So I had my first mishap with Nicotine today. I dispense my nic through a plastic bottle with one of those "KKK hat" top screw caps. It works great, however today, while I was unscrewing the "hat" part, I wasn't paying attention while looking at the % on my screen and instead unscrewed the whole cap with it.

As I picked it up to pour the cap came off and I dumped a 1/4 bottle of nic on my leg. Following an epic combo of F-bombs I quickly ran to the shower and washed it off. All within about 15 seconds. Felt a little flushed after that, but all in all I was fine, so yeah 36mg nic is pretty safe if you wash it off straight away. The worst part of it is simply the financial loss as Nic is the most expensive ingredient.

So if you ever spill 36mg nic on yourself, wash it off and chill, you'll be just fine.

 

[RichJB]

Eeew, those witch's hat caps. I've done that too, but fortunately just dunked a whole dumpload of juice into my dripper rather than pure nic. I want to transition to PET bottles with twist caps now. I prefer the idea of a cap that doesn't come off but just seals and unseals with a twist.

 

[Dolfie]

Eeew, those witch's hat caps. I've done that too, but fortunately just dunked a whole dumpload of juice into my dripper rather than pure nic. I want to transition to PET bottles with twist caps now. I prefer the idea of a cap that doesn't come off but just seals and unseals with a twist.

Are you talking about these bottles

 

[RichJB]

Yep, that's the one. They're not ideal for tank users because the nozzle is quite thick. But I only drip so it's not a problem for me.

 

[Dolfie]

Yep, that's the one. They're not ideal for tank users because the nozzle is quite thick. But I only drip so it's not a problem for me.

Stupid question do you find there is difference in taste if you steep juice in plastic or glass bottles. I got about 15x30glass bottles but I don't like them they always leaks at the top. The plastic ones for me much better. My new name for you is Steep Master always see you have the patience to let it steep for long.

 

[RichJB]

I have noticed no difference. I mix, steep and drip from both plastic and glass and will use whatever is to hand. I reuse plastic and glass bottles and pick up no taste or odour traces from the previous concentrate or juice in the bottle. That said, I can taste strawberries, I've never had vaper's tongue, I get no pepper from TFA VBIC or White Choc, I have never had harsh or peppery nic, no sinus problems, no nosebleeds, no PG sensitivity, no severe throat hit from Peach, don't feel that wicking material taints my juice. So something not affecting me is no guarantee that it won't affect others.

 

[Caveman]

Stupid question do you find there is difference in taste if you steep juice in plastic or glass bottles. I got about 15x30glass bottles but I don't like them they always leaks at the top. The plastic ones for me much better. My new name for you is Steep Master always see you have the patience to let it steep for long.

I've found with menthol that non HDPE plastic leaves a weird taste after a while. HDPE bottles don't have that issue though

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[therazia]

Hehe, once the hiding/steeping is no longer required, give us your impressions please. Chocolate concentrates are notoriously difficult to work with.

Okay so I decided to make some juice then discovered my batch of Milk Chocolate recipes. I might have Vapers Tongue due to that insane Grapefruit Soda that was posted but these seem to be coming along nicely. Tasted some in my Petri and it's vapable but not there yet. For me saying something with chocolate is vapable says a lot. I'm one of those lucky guys who tastes burnt popcorn when vaping chocolate or coffee.

Will report again on them in a week.

 

[RichJB]

Fans of Unicorn bottles might be interested in Geoff's new range. R5 a pop and you can even mix and match your tops. You just know vapers are going to love matchy-matchy. I like these although I'm not sure how well your juice level will show up in, for eg, the black one. I think I'll just go with clear. With black caps. I like living on the edge.

 

[Rude Rudi]

Fans of Unicorn bottles might be interested in Geoff's new range. R5 a pop and you can even mix and match your tops. You just know vapers are going to love matchy-matchy. I like these although I'm not sure how well your juice level will show up in, for eg, the black one. I think I'll just go with clear. With black caps. I like living on the edge.

Thanks Richard - good find!

 

[Andre]

Man, how badly does the First Rule suck? I was looking forward to the recipes from the First Round of Wayne's World Mixing competition, because:
1) It's pure fruits, which I don't mix much and would like to try more of, and
2) It was a max of three flavours from
3) Only the Big Five of TFA, FA, FW, Cap, Inw

With more than 160 flavours in my arsenal, I figured there'd be a bunch of new stuff I could try. Well, of the 28 recipes posted, I can make... two. Luckily, one of them is the top-rated recipe of the first round, Chapel's Deep Passion. The other is boogenshizzle's Strapplactus, which didn't make it through but did receive positive comments from the judges. So at least I should get two good recipes.

Wayne is really pushing the contestants. For the next round, they have three days to come up with a candy that emulates a real-life candy already on the market, only uses four flavours max (plus Sweetener if they want), and only uses Cap or TFA flavours. That should throw up some really good recipes which I'll again be watching closely as candies is another profile I'd like to expand. But, of course, it will be Jolly Ranchers, Hershey bars, Tootsie Rolls and other stuff we don't get here and thus have no reference for.

The chances of me being able to mix any of the recipes is almost zero. I don't have any Cap candy flavours - no Double Choc, no mints, no Marshmallow, nor Jelly Candy, Caramel, Bubble Gum, Taffy, Milk Chocolate Toffee, nada. All my Cap stuff is creams, bakeries, fruits. I wish they'd gone FW instead, at least I have some of their candies. Oh well.

Thank you! I do not follow DOD (usually only sweet stuff), but this is exciting. Only fruits, no creams, no sweeteners - right up my alley. Went through the recipes and will mix a few for sure. Fortunately I am not a candy fan, so can relax for the next round.

 

[Dolfie]

Thank you! I do not follow DOD (usually only sweet stuff), but this is exciting. Only fruits, no creams, no sweeteners - right up my alley. Went through the recipes and will mix a few for sure. Fortunately I am not a candy fan, so can relax for the next round.

Any thoughts on this and maybe a clone in the future

 

[rogue zombie]

Any thoughts on this and maybe a clone in the future

Sounds yum!

 

[Andre]

Any thoughts on this and maybe a clone in the future

Sounds divine, but not something I would try to mix as sweet stuff is rather low on my radar.

 

[RichJB]

Only fruits, no creams, no sweeteners - right up my alley. Went through the recipes and will mix a few for sure.

Yeah, some exciting stuff there. Although I think competitions like this have limited potential for really killer recipes. Wayne wants to stress the mixers and give them severe limitations to test their innovation and flavour knowledge. For this round, only three ingredients were allowed. I'm sure a lot of the mixers were happy with their submissions but also felt that a fourth ingredient would have improved the recipe dramatically. I think the real value of this competition won't necessarily be in the entries themselves but rather in the limitation-free adaptations that are developed once the competition is over.

 

[RichJB]

Wragtig, this is now a thing. From the Beeb:

US and Indian scientists say a mystery illness that killed more than 100 children a year in northern India was caused by eating lychees on an empty stomach.

For more than two decades, apparently healthy children in a region of Bihar suffered sudden seizures and lost consciousness.

Almost half died, baffling doctors.

New research, published in the medical journal The Lancet, now suggests they were poisoned by the fruit.

Most of the victims were poor children in India's main lychee-producing region who ate fruit that had fallen on to the ground in orchards, the journal said.

Lychees contain toxins that inhibit the body's ability to produce glucose, which affected young children whose blood sugar levels were already low because they were not eating dinner.

They woke screaming in the night before suffering convulsions and losing consciousness as they suffered acute swelling of the brain.

So there you have it. There is probably 0% actual lychee in our concentrates. But for those who eat lychees, it's good to know that it can inhibit the body's ability to produce glucose. Some vapers have blood sugar problems so I thought I'd just pass this along.

 

[Andre]

How can one not try this one :

"This DIY FlavourArt ejuice recipe is not for the prudish.It produces an ORGASMIC FLAVOR EXPLOSION that makes your mouth water with every puff.

"I spelunked in my gosh darn trousers. Didn't see that coming! I didn't know what to tell Grandma and Aunt Betty. Great juice!"- Bob Jordan from Toledo Ohio

This ain't one of your grampa's e-liquid recipes. It's aBOLDand creamy fruity recipe that's been known to cause embarrassing orgasms in public places like bus stops, the sidewalks in front of coffee shops, designated smoking areas near classroom buildings, upscale restaurant patios, strip clubs and karaoke bars. If you have a silly sex face, you're more likely to run into problems. However, if you keep your cool, this magic ejuice elixir might just get you laid.

Flavors(percentages are in the recipe below): FA Catalan Cream, Strawberry, Black Cherry and Forest Fruit.

The Catalan Cream (creme brulee) provides a "full" and satisfying, milky, spicy and sweet flavor with hints of cinnamon, caramel and vanilla.

I only used FlavourArt flavorings with cult followings and tons of 5 star reviews. Steeping is not necessary, but it does bring out some highly titillating notes. Cherry, strawberry and Catalan Cream are dominant in the aftertaste.

My recipes are the ones the so-called "experts" warn you about. You know, the wimps who say that you can't make flavourArt recipes with 25% flavoring concentration. They're fake news. Don't worry about them. This is 2017, and they don't matter anymore.

Hot Creamy Fruit Orgy Recipe:

74% PG/PV/Nic

5% FlavourArt Black Cherry concentrate

5% FA Strawberry

10% FA Forest Fruit Mix

3% FA Catalan Cream

3% Sucralose Sweetener

Note: This was mixed with 50/50 VG/PG and 18mg/ml nicotine.

You may share this post elsewhere online. Please give credit to YoMajesty and do the proper austerities to Yours Truly when making this magic elixir recipe. No weak girlymon versions will be worthy of the name Hot Creamy Fruit Orgy. Cutting the flavoring in half is grounds for expulsion from the Kingdom, and we make our tar nice and hot. The feathers are nice and soft for sleeping on the hard ground, though. Thanks for your understanding.".

 

[Rude Rudi]

If it tastes as good as the description, it should be a winner!
Thanks for sharing!


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[GregF]

Thanks @Andre that sounds interesting but what interests me more is how you found this...... what was the search phrase

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[Andre]

Thanks @Andre that sounds interesting but what interests me more is how you found this...... what was the search phrase

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Hehe, I went incognito!

 

[RichJB]

I'm thinking of mixing up some of the Beginner Blending Round 2 juices because they're mostly dessert banana cream recipes which is right up my alley. Unfortunately they all contain FA Soho which I'm not buying because it doesn't appeal to me and there's hardly anything else that uses it. Almost none of the entrants used it as a tobacco but more as a 'spice' or enhancer for their dessert recipes.

In his interview on the podcast, KRUCIAL said he likes the flavour but would still prefer to use TFA RY4 Double as a tobacco-ish note in a non-tobacco flavour. So I'm thinking I'll just sub Soho with RY4. They are both quite weak flavours, being commonly used at 7-10% where needed as a top note. So I think I'll just sub 1:1. My other option is just to leave it out but these guys are mixing at a level where leaving out ingredients is not likely to work.

Do you guys reckon the direct sub will work or is there some ghastly clashing chemistry that I'm Inawera (unaware of )? Only one way to find out, I guess. If there are loud spluttering noises from my general direction, you will know that it's not a great sub.