Calling all DIY'ers

Greyz said:
How is the Creme de Menthe, I see it's at 3.5% in this recipe. I found it over powering in the Cuprian recipe (and that has Cd'M at a lower percentage) - while I could enjoy the first tank of it by half way through the 2nd I'm gatvol of the creme de menthe :(

I'm hoping and praying you say the other flavours help balance it because I have an almost full bottle of Creme de Menthe at home and there aren't any other recipes calling for it.
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The CDM does not take over at all. I think because of the relative high and equal proportions of the other ingredients, they compliment one another just so.

Yes, you can safely make a decent dent in your CDM stock with this one.

Added bonus is that it's a shake and vape - so make a 10ml and if you don't fancy it you can cull it straight away. I'm really enjoying it and have just about polished 20mls since 16h30... I think it is because it is such an unusual combination that it it is so intriguing that you just want to have more...


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Rude Rudi said:
The CDM does not take over at all. I think because of the relative high and equal proportions of the other ingredients, they compliment one another just so.

Yes, you can safely make a decent dent in your CDM stock with this one.

Added bonus is that it's a shake and vape - so make a 10ml and if you don't fancy it you can cull it straight away. I'm really enjoying it and have just about polished 20mls since 16h30... I think it is because it is such an unusual combination that it it is so intriguing that you just want to have more...


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Thanks @Rude Rudi - I'll give this a bash at 50ml. If I like it then I'll be glad I mixed up 50ml and not 10ml. If I don't like it I have a brother that's loves Cuprian so I'm sure he will like this too.
 
Rude Rudi said:
So, I whipped this baby up earlier and it is a keeper! Instant creaminess thanks to the banana cream and fresh cream with no steep time!
The flavours work surprisingly well together and not one flavour dominates another, making this a perfect ADV.
The Creme de menthe blends seamlessly to produce a perfectly balanced mouth-orgasm.

The biggest pro here is off course that I have another use for me Creme de Menthe after the Caprian hangover!

Give it a go, you will not regret it...
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Ag I checked and I have LA Banana Cream, not TFA.

I'll try it with LA anyway.
 
Deckie said:
Rule #1 applies to me.... no CAP French Vanilla. Think I can sub with TFA French Vanilla?
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Try and by all means please report back. I am in the same boat as you, got TFA French Vanilla not CAP #RULE1ofDIY
 
Greyz said:
Try and by all means please report back. I am in the same boat as you, got TFA French Vanilla not CAP #RULE1ofDIY
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what rule is this?
 
Dietz said:
Thanks! very true
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Our Vape store have the ingredients except Cap French Vanilla the have FA Madagascar Vanilla maybe take the gamble and try it if it don't work only R40 down the drain.
 
I don't think FA Madagascar will be a good sub for French Vanilla, it is a thin vanilla pod flavour whereas French Vanilla is a cream/custard. From Reddit's flavour notes on TFA French Vanilla Deluxe:

Flavor Description: Buttery, rich caramelized french style custard. Super smooth custard created with the richness of egg yolks and cream, which provides that unique buttery silky custard. Even with that, I don't taste any egg here. Heavy warm vanilla notes with caramelized sugar. Balanced just on the edge of caramel with a slight nutty note. This is a very complex and dense custard, and makes an excellent single flavor with a pleasing and tempting characteristic aroma.

Notes: This has a lovely mouth feel, not as thick on the tongue as CAP V1, but more buttery and silky.
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And French Vanilla Creme:

Mouth Feel - Very heavy on the tongue, and light on the nose giving it a very dense mouth feel. I would give it 9 out of 10. no throat hit.

Flavor Properties- Smooth and rich vanilla with a heavy Dairy, very buttery, and a well-balanced sweetness that really makes the vanilla pop.

Relatable Flavors - Reminds me of vanilla custard ice cream. ( may even be a suitable substitution for vanilla custard v1 cap.)
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Seeing as both notes reference Cap Vanilla Custard, that would probably be a fairly close sub.

And now, having been a smartarse about subs, I have to confess my abysmal failure to make up a FW Creme de Menthe sub for Em's shake. Her recipe notes read:

FW Creme de Menthe - This is the perfect mint flavor for this mix. It has a soft nuanced creaminess to the mint that just works so well as a milkshake. The slight vanilla notes further add to the accuracy of this milkshake along with the cooling sensation it provides that pushes this mix over the edge into milkshake land. Creme de Menthe also provides most of the sweetness for this recipe and makes it so darn enjoyable to vape.
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So we want soft creaminess with a bit of mint, some vanilla and added sweetness. I used 2% Cap Vanilla Whipped with 0.5% FW Candy Cane, 0.4% FW Hazelnut (extra creaminess and to complement the Banana) and 0.5% TFA Marshmallow (bit of sweetness and mouth feel). In addition, Wayne used TFA Vanilla Bean Gelato and Cap Marshmallow for a soft vanilla mint vibe in Pillow Talk, so I thought I was in the ballpark. Well...

...I wasn't. :p Man, that was rank. I think the problem was the Candy Cane, it's probably too up-front and nowhere near CdM. With three creams in the mix, I should probably have given it a steep. But it was so bad as a SnV that it went down the drain. FW CdM might be subbable in this recipe but it will take greater talents than I possess.
 
RichJB said:
I don't think FA Madagascar will be a good sub for French Vanilla, it is a thin vanilla pod flavour whereas French Vanilla is a cream/custard. From Reddit's flavour notes on TFA French Vanilla Deluxe:



And French Vanilla Creme:



Seeing as both notes reference Cap Vanilla Custard, that would probably be a fairly close sub.

And now, having been a smartarse about subs, I have to confess my abysmal failure to make up a FW Creme de Menthe sub for Em's shake. Her recipe notes read:



So we want soft creaminess with a bit of mint, some vanilla and added sweetness. I used 2% Cap Vanilla Whipped with 0.5% FW Candy Cane, 0.4% FW Hazelnut (extra creaminess and to complement the Banana) and 0.5% TFA Marshmallow (bit of sweetness and mouth feel). In addition, Wayne used TFA Vanilla Bean Gelato and Cap Marshmallow for a soft vanilla mint vibe in Pillow Talk, so I thought I was in the ballpark. Well...

...I wasn't. :p Man, that was rank. I think the problem was the Candy Cane, it's probably too up-front and nowhere near CdM. With three creams in the mix, I should probably have given it a steep. But it was so bad as a SnV that it went down the drain. FW CdM might be subbable in this recipe but it will take greater talents than I possess.
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So nice to have a Vape store that stock concentrates but also disappointing when you need that 1 ingredient and the don't have it. Will keep that recipe on file you never know maybe in a month I can make it.
 
Rude Rudi said:
So, I whipped this baby up earlier and it is a keeper! Instant creaminess thanks to the banana cream and fresh cream with no steep time!
The flavours work surprisingly well together and not one flavour dominates another, making this a perfect ADV.
The Creme de menthe blends seamlessly to produce a perfectly balanced mouth-orgasm.

The biggest pro here is off course that I have another use for me Creme de Menthe after the Caprian hangover!

Give it a go, you will not regret it...
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Made a batch of this last night, wow! Best part is that it doesn't require a steep (for real):aaaaa:
 
I don't want to put this in the tobacco thread, but I will try it and then list it there if its good.
I know the mixer is good, so I would bet this would be worthy.

I am a little surprised at the percentage of the 7 Leaves, but...

By Reddit DIY'er wh1skeyk1ng

LEGEND

A fruity tobacco. Quoting the mixer: "Tobacco heads love it. Tobacco haters say "Wow, that's tasty!"https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5xx8do/legend_a_recipe_for_tobacco_lovers_or_anyone/

FA 7 Leaves Ultimate 6%
FA Desert Ship 1.5%
FA Fuji 1%
FA Blackcurrant 0.75%

70VG 14 Day Steep

Rate it on ATF
 
Thanks @rogue zombie, no Rule 1 here and not many recipes that use those ingredients (other than Fuji) so I'll definitely make that. 7 Leaves at 6% does sound potent, though. I had it standalone at 3% and it was more than strong enough.

Is it just me or are FA flavourings gradually getting less potent? Recent releases like Zeppola and Soho are weak for FA flavourings, with % going as high as 7-10%. We were speculating in Discord about Inw pulling Waffle. It's probably because of diacetyl but Vurve offered that it's just not a profitable concentrate for Inw.

As good as Inw Waffle and Raspberry, FA Honey and MTS Vape Wizard, and Flv Rich Cinnamon are, they are so ridiculously potent that one bottle will last you for years. How long will it be before manufacturers realise they are just shooting themselves in the foot? White goods manufacturers have realised that a fridge, washing machine or microwave that lasts you 30 years is dumb. They want you to buy a new one every five years, that is the only way to keep driving sales volumes. So they engineer in medium-term component failure. As long as the appliance reaches the end of the warranty period, that's where their legal obligation ends. It sucks but it's capitalism. Maybe DIY is still too new, or doesn't constitute enough of the flavour houses' business, for manufacturers to have come to the cynical conclusion that a concentrate which requires only 0.2% isn't very good for sales. But it is surely only a matter of time before they do?
 
rogue zombie said:
I don't want to put this in the tobacco thread, but I will try it and then list it there if its good.
I know the mixer is good, so I would bet this would be worthy.

I am a little surprised at the percentage of the 7 Leaves, but...

By Reddit DIY'er wh1skeyk1ng

LEGEND

A fruity tobacco. Quoting the mixer: "Tobacco heads love it. Tobacco haters say "Wow, that's tasty!"

FA 7 Leaves Ultimate 6%
FA Desert Ship 1.5%
FA Fuji 1%
FA Blackcurrant 0.75%

70VG 14 Day Steep

Rate it on ATF
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Yeah, I saw that and was thinking of mixing it, but am afraid it might be too sweet for my taste and I am normally not a Fuji fan. Looking forward to your impressions.
Saw a post on here recently (could have been another forum) of someone using 7 leaves at an even higher percentage standalone.
 
I kinda like Supreme's 7 Foglie designation. It makes it sound more Italian and thus tastier. :p
 
Andre said:
Yeah, I saw that and was thinking of mixing it, but am afraid it might be too sweet for my taste and I am normally not a Fuji fan. Looking forward to your impressions.
Saw a post on here recently (could have been another forum) of someone using 7 leaves at an even higher percentage standalone.
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Oh really. So then 7 Leaves can be used higher. Good to know.

I shall let you know about the sweetness then... in 2 weeks :) (joys of DIY)

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Hi All

I haven't yet experimented with Menthol concentrates. Looking for recommendations on a good menthol concentrate to buy? One that pairs well with fruits preferably.

Thanks
 
Isn't menthol like sucralose, i.e. a substance rather than a flavour. HIC says he tastes no difference between FA's Menthol and other brands. Cooling agents like Koolada, Polar Blast, Extreme Ice all have different tastes but I think the menthols are much of a muchness.
 
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