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Oooh, top tip from skiddlz: if you're adding to a mixing bottle and your scale doesn't react and stays at 0 after a few drops, tap the scale lightly. It should then 'catch up' and show the correct reading. This happens to me often, I'll try it next time. But it seems to work, he did it live on camera and the scale corrected itself.

Thanks @RichJB ! This happens to me more often than I would like to admit. Sometimes when you're mixing up a 10ml sampler and you need 0.09gr or such, which is typically only 2 drops or so, but then after the 3rd drop and it still shows 0.... well, a type of panic kinda sets in.
 
Thanks @RichJB ! This happens to me more often than I would like to admit. Sometimes when you're mixing up a 10ml sampler and you need 0.09gr or such, which is typically only 2 drops or so, but then after the 3rd drop and it still shows 0.... well, a type of panic kinda sets in.
Sometimes even tapping the scale doesn't make it catch up. So what I started doing is, immediately add 3 drops in quick succession / all at once (the chances of needing less than 3 drops in any mix is almost nil). 3 drops are enough to make the scale register a difference. After that, you can add the drops 1 by 1 if you want.

Also, if things really go south then I work on average drop weight (which is 0.02g per drop). This obviously depends on the flavour compound and van vary, but it's at least a fallback if everything else goes to hell. So if I add 3 drops right away and the scale still shows 0, then I know I have approximately 0.06g of flavour in there. For 0.10 I would then add 2 more drops and leave it be.
 
Sometimes even tapping the scale doesn't make it catch up. So what I started doing is, immediately add 3 drops in quick succession / all at once (the chances of needing less than 3 drops in any mix is almost nil). 3 drops are enough to make the scale register a difference. After that, you can add the drops 1 by 1 if you want.

Also, if things really go south then I work on average drop weight (which is 0.02g per drop). This obviously depends on the flavour compound and van vary, but it's at least a fallback if everything else goes to hell. So if I add 3 drops right away and the scale still shows 0, then I know I have approximately 0.06g of flavour in there. For 0.10 I would then add 2 more drops and leave it be.
I fixed this my not tarring my scale.. Just adding the required amounts on top of the reading on tbe scale.

Havent had the issue since.. It seems Only to happen when the scale is reset on mine

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Oooh, top tip from skiddlz: if you're adding to a mixing bottle and your scale doesn't react and stays at 0 after a few drops, tap the scale lightly. It should then 'catch up' and show the correct reading. This happens to me often, I'll try it next time. But it seems to work, he did it live on camera and the scale corrected itself.

It happens to me 2 but I am not very happy with just pressing the scale lightly. The results I have seen does not look perfectly correct to me.
 
Normally 8-12 weeks, not because it needs it but because that's how far my mixing is ahead of my vaping. tranceinate reckons 4 days but my experience is that mixers often recommend the point where it loses initial harshness/imbalance, not the point where it no longer improves. There is also a tendency to underplay the steeping time as developers want everybody to mix their recipe and impatient mixers are more likely to choose short steepers. With a custard and Vienna cream in it, I wouldn't give it less than two weeks. But the longer, the better. It just gets more delicious with time.
 
Normally 8-12 weeks, not because it needs it but because that's how far my mixing is ahead of my vaping. tranceinate reckons 4 days but my experience is that mixers often recommend the point where it loses initial harshness/imbalance, not the point where it no longer improves. There is also a tendency to underplay the steeping time as developers want everybody to mix their recipe and impatient mixers are more likely to choose short steepers. With a custard and Vienna cream in it, I wouldn't give it less than two weeks. But the longer, the better. It just gets more delicious with time.
Fantastic. Going to make sure it has an uninterrupted 2 week nap.

Much appreciated.
 
Fantastic. Going to make sure it has an uninterrupted 2 week nap.

Much appreciated.
FWIW, I noticed that the mix got darker pretty quickly after about 2 weeks. Quite a sudden change after 10 days, actually. I'd agree that 2 weeks is a safe minimum.
 
So, in the search for a good Dulce de Leche flavour, I was a bit depressed but not surprised by last night's Noted podcast that the hosts couldn't find a good one among existing DDL concentrates. Most seem to be plain caramels with a chocolate note, which is not what I want.

Chrisdvr1 swears by JF DDL but ID10-T noted that it, too, misses the mark and is really more of an alternative to TFA Brown Sugar. Skiddlz came up with his own Dulcestone which sounds promising, I'll mix that up and see if it hits the spot. At the very least, it won't have the chocolate note. I will also try @Andre's recipe but need to get Flv Cream in first.

I still haven't tried the local Cloud Burst and TFM DDL concentrates but my sense is that if TFA, FW and JF can't nail it, it's unlikely that anybody will. Inw and FA don't make one and while Flv Milk and Honey is great, it's not really DDL on its own.
 
@RichJB is there a difference between TFA Dragonfruit and CAP Dragonfruit? Cos I see blckvapour don't stock the TFA Dragonfruit

And what is the difference between the v1 and v2 for certain flavas?
 
@RichJB is there a difference between TFA Dragonfruit and CAP Dragonfruit? Cos I see blckvapour don't stock the TFA Dragonfruit

And what is the difference between the v1 and v2 for certain flavas?
v1 is the older version containing diketones, while v2 is usually the diketone-free version of the flavour. Generally (and I say generally because it's not always the same) v1's steep faster. Many people dislike the v2's taste too, but personally I find it to be pretty close in a lot of the flavours.
 
v1 is the older version containing diketones, while v2 is usually the diketone-free version of the flavour. Generally (and I say generally because it's not always the same) v1's steep faster. Many people dislike the v2's taste too, but personally I find it to be pretty close in a lot of the flavours.
Cause I notice that some v1's are more expensive than the v2's
 
Cause I notice that some v1's are more expensive than the v2's
I also noticed on vape hyper site that cap sugar cookie v1 is quite a bit more than v2...

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I also noticed on vape hyper site that cap sugar cookie v1 is quite a bit more than v2...

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Yup, think it's because they don't produce as much of them? Not sure.

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I haven't tried the Cap Dragonfruit. I like TFA for its use as an emulsifier in blending flavours together, even if it's not rated as being a very realistic dragonfruit representation. If you want realistic dragonfruit, Inw is apparently the one.

Some of the original Cap flavours are no-fly which is why the V1 is more expensive. Cap designated this not just with V1/V2 but also with RF. If you buy original Cap Sweet Strawberry (V1 even though it wasn't called that), it will be more expensive than the RF Sweet Strawberry (reformulated or V2 if you will) that we usually get here. Same with Sweet Tangerine. In summary:
* if an original Cap flavour didn't contain DAAP but needed to be reformulated in order to be flyable, it will be called RF
* if an original Cap flavour did contain DAAP and needed to be reformulated both to be flyable and to be DAAP-free, it will be called V2.
* Cap V2 flavours that cost the same as V1 flavours were reformulated for DAAP, not because they were no-fly.

That is my understanding, don't shoot me if I'm wrong. Although you can beat me lightly about the face and neck if you wish.
 
I haven't tried the Cap Dragonfruit. I like TFA for its use as an emulsifier in blending flavours together, even if it's not rated as being a very realistic dragonfruit representation. If you want realistic dragonfruit, Inw is apparently the one.

Some of the original Cap flavours are no-fly which is why the V1 is more expensive. Cap designated this not just with V1/V2 but also with RF. If you buy original Cap Sweet Strawberry (V1 even though it wasn't called that), it will be more expensive than the RF Sweet Strawberry (reformulated or V2 if you will) that we usually get here. Same with Sweet Tangerine. In summary:
* if an original Cap flavour didn't contain DAAP but needed to be reformulated in order to be flyable, it will be called RF
* if an original Cap flavour did contain DAAP and needed to be reformulated both to be flyable and to be DAAP-free, it will be called V2.
* Cap V2 flavours that cost the same as V1 flavours were reformulated for DAAP, not because they were no-fly.

That is my understanding, don't shoot me if I'm wrong. Although you can beat me lightly about the face and neck if you wish.
My understanding too. "RF" denotes "reduced flashpoint" if I remember correctly.
 
All these things are way too complicated for me ...
Buy flavours...
Mix flavours...
Vape flavours...
Hahaha

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@RichJB is there a difference between TFA Dragonfruit and CAP Dragonfruit? Cos I see blckvapour don't stock the TFA Dragonfruit

And what is the difference between the v1 and v2 for certain flavas?
Massive difference between TFA and CAP Dragonfruit. I hardly even taste TFA Dragonfruit and use it to punch up other flavors. CAP Dragonfruit is a solid in your face, slightly bitter dragonfruit flavor. In my experience they cannot be subbed for each other. They are very distinctly different. YMMV
 
I haven't tried the Cap Dragonfruit. I like TFA for its use as an emulsifier in blending flavours together, even if it's not rated as being a very realistic dragonfruit representation. If you want realistic dragonfruit, Inw is apparently the one
@RichJB You must get stock of TFA DragonFruit please
 
Richio has stock of it. So do I. The difference is that you can buy Richio's, mine is not for sale. I'm not sure which vendor you're referencing, @herb1 but just for clarity, I'm not a DIY vendor. I'm just an oke.
 
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