Dvarw RTA DL from KHW Mods in Hungary

[Silver]

Just to clarify , you put the cap with wicking holes on first and then wick ? That means u dont have to struggle with fitting the top cap with wick in the coil........if thi is the case i must try it.

Yes, thats correct @morras
Put the cap on first and then feed the wick through
Its a bit trivky getting it through the final wick hole - but it appears to work better because the wicks are then nicely seated in the wicking holes - and you trim it afterward

Before i did it the "bunny ears" method, where you put the cap on over the wick bunny ears pointing upward and then poke them into position afterward.

Thanks to Dvarw gurur @Rob Fisher for this technique

i think this method is better

 

[Rob Fisher]

Just to clarify , you put the cap with wicking holes on first and then wick ? That means u dont have to struggle with fitting the top cap with wick in the coil........if thi is the case i must try it.

Nope... I find it easier to wick it first and then place the cap on. Most important to lube the O-Ring of course.

 

[Silver]

Nope... I find it easier to wick it first and then place the cap on. Most important to lube the O-Ring of course.

Lol Rob, maybe i misunderstood you on the call last night
Haha

Anyway i put the wick through the wicking hole, then the coil, then the other wicking hole - and it worked great!

 

[Rob Fisher]

Lol Rob, maybe i misunderstood you on the call last night
Haha

Anyway i put the wick through the wicking hole, then the coil, then the other wicking hole - and it worked great!

I really must do a video for it as well as using Titanium Fibre Cotton.

 

[Christos]

Lol Rob, maybe i misunderstood you on the call last night
Haha

Anyway i put the wick through the wicking hole, then the coil, then the other wicking hole - and it worked great!

I found the wicking with the cap on tends to produce some leakage in the air intake for me.

Cap off wicking and then placing cap on and trimming etc has resolved my leaking issue.

 

[Silver]

I found the wicking with the cap on tends to produce some leakage in the air intake for me.

Cap off wicking and then placing cap on and trimming etc has resolved my leaking issue.

I got no leaks yet with this method last night @Christos - will keep a weary eye on it though.

Lol, it was probably my misundstanding of Rob last night combined with my haste because it took me ages to do the Dvarw and i was getting tired and neglecting the fam. Haha

 

[Christos]

I got no leaks yet with this method last night @Christos - will keep a weary eye on it though.

Lol, it was probably my misundstanding of Rob last night combined with my haste because it took me ages to do the Dvarw and i was getting tired and neglecting the fam. Haha

Nicotine fix before fam otherwise fam gets grumpy man....

 

[DougP]

If I may ask the question.

I am seeing coils built both ways (above the legs and hanging below legs)

Which way is best/recommended ?
Given this effects how close to the airflow hole the coil sits and the effect it could (?) have on the flavor and performance

 

[Silver]

Good point @Blends Of Distinction
Which way do you guys do it?
Coil legs on bottom (so coil is higher up) or coil legs on top (so coil is lower down)?
Which is best?

I've done both my coils lower down (with the coil legs on top) and although I think the flavour is good I think it should be better and am keen to improve it

 

[DougP]

Good point @Blends Of Distinction
Which way do you guys do it?
Coil legs on bottom (so coil is higher up) or coil legs on top (so coil is lower down)?
Which is best?

I've done both my coils lower down (with the coil legs on top) and although I think the flavour is good I think it should be better and am keen to improve it

We anxiously await Uncle Robs recommendations as he is the Jedi Master of this RTA

 

[Silver]

We anxiously await Uncle Robs recommendations as he is the Jedi Master of this RTA

Indeed !
Lets just tag him so he sees it - @Rob Fisher - we need your jedi skills here

 

[Christos]

@Blends Of Distinction and @Silver,
I think the approach you take is based on what works best for you.
If you like a more restricted airflow and the coil lower down then legs at the bottom so when you press your coil down it is in tension. (How I like it).

If you were to put your legs on top this gives you more room to move the coil upwards to put the coil in tension.

 

[Rob Fisher]

I put the legs at the bottom... that way they don't interfere with the Exocet wicking method...

 

[Christos]

@Silver and @Blends Of Distinction,
How I do it.

 

[RenaldoRheeder]

I also do the legs at the bottom, otherwise the vape is to airy for my vaping style and preference.

So I don't think there is a right or wrong way



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[Christos]

I also do the legs at the bottom, otherwise the vape is to airy for my vaping style and preference.

So I don't think there is a right or wrong way



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I fully agree. I like the coil restricting the airflow.

 

[kev mac]

Great to see and hear @Andre !
Good news indeed

This one has my attention!

 

[DougP]

Thanks to everyone for the feedback on my question

 

[Christos]

Thanks to everyone for the feedback on my question

Please let us know what you go with...

 

[SAVapeGear]

@Silver and @Blends Of Distinction,
How I do it.
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I think it is time for new coils

 

[Christos]

I think it is time for new coils

Twas pre ultrasonic coils

 

[BioHAZarD]

I think it is time for new coils

i second that

 

[Silver]

@Silver and @Blends Of Distinction,
How I do it.
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@Christos, I can't see the gap between the bottom of the coil and the airflow hole.
Perhaps next time you can take a photo of it from a side angle so we can see
I see your coil legs are at the bottom, so does that mean your coil is a bit higher up?

 

[Christos]

@Christos, I can't see the gap between the bottom of the coil and the airflow hole.
Perhaps next time you can take a photo of it from a side angle so we can see
I see your coil legs are at the bottom, so does that mean your coil is a bit higher up?

Will do but I push the coil as low as possible which restricts the airflow on the atty.

If you are lucky you will get a pic tomorrow.

 

[DougP]

This is gonna be a little long winded but an interesting read.
I have been swept away by the hype of this RTA (once again uncle Rob is to blame for this) and decided to jump on the bandwagon feet first.
I managed to get my hands on the DL version from a forum member on Thursday.
Taking possession of the RTA I felt like that 14 year boy back in the 70’s that just got his first Scope magazine, without stars on the Boobies, from his school mate who found it under his dads bed. I rushed home eager to try out my new found cherish possession (not the scope magazine but my newly purchased dvarw DL)
Carefully I opened it up and installed my coil. This will be a breeze I thought as I had trained myself to expert level on the sub tank mini’s. All said and done this should be the same principle.....
Yeah right ....
I swear these post screws were designed to never hold a coil wire. Slowly tighten (yes yes its tight) and dam it jumped out again. Hour later and I had the post screws tight. For the first time in my life I found the design flaw in us human coil builders, why the hell weren’t we blessed with three hands. If I just had one more hand I could have tightened those dam wires in a jiffy.

Excitement building I slapped the cap on and filled the tank, sat back and prepared myself for vaping bliss.
35 watts and a deep lung draw and I got 5 mls of juice straight down my throat, on my shirt and everywhere.
Yip I shall take my place in the que ...

After a cleanup (whoever invented paper towels I salute you) and rewick (this time with cap fitted) it was time to try again
Wow
Wow
Wow
Dam remember that scope magazine without the stars, well let me be honest,
the absolute euphoria of vaping on this RTA far surpassed the euphoria of staring at those rossie little (......) on those ladies in that scope magazine.

On Saturday morning I bumped into a fellow dvarw master who built me a superb coil and showed me how to wick with perfection
All I can say uncle Rob, this is not chicken dinner this is CHICKENS dinner (like 50 chickens devoured concurrently without stopping to chew).
Finally I had got to the ultimate,
I had climbed the “Everest” of vaping

Then it happened .....
On Saturday evening I decided to rewick and try a different juice
As I removed the wick I tugged it to hard and yip it happened, my nemesis, that dam wire came out of the post.
And the emotional roller coaster ride started again.....
Gently screw, yes yes clamped ... no no it jumped out .... After a half an hour I had definitely earned my Sergeant Major strips. I could swear and curse just like the best of them.
Finally the coil was secured.
I then made that unforgivable mistake .... never ever try and tighten those post screws to tight.
As I cranked it tighter it happened. The post screw snapped inside the post.
The emotional roller coaster hit the big downhill dip (the one where the whole world comes crashing down around you)

I was completely devastated. Looking at the damage I quickly realized my dvarw days had come to an abrupt end a mere 48 hours later
Bitterly disappointed I went to bed last night my world had crashed. I thought the most disappointing time of my life was back to that scope magazine where I eagerly paged through it excited to get to the center spread just to find it had been removed.
This morning (Sunday) I woke up and decided to call the one person who I knew could possibly save me. If anybody could save this RTA it would be Rowan Francis.
I called up Rowan and he collected my RTA this morning. I honestly had little to no hope that he could fix it given the complex and intricate task at hand.
How do u remove a piece of threaded metal jammed solid in a hole less that a 1mm wide sitting half a millimeter deep in that hole.

This afternoon at 4 pm Rowan phones me to say my RTA is fixed and I can come and fetch it. I was gobsmacked

Working from home, in his garage, Rowan had managed to drill right through the stuck piece of metal and then remove it.
I just have to say this again, working with tolerances in microns and having to drill absolutely dead straight he did this. Here he was drilling knowing that if he was not absolutely perfectly dead center and perfectly lined up he would completely ruin this RTA by damaging the thread and render it completely useless. This takes nerves of steel and demonstrates an absolute master at his best

These pictures show the piece that was removed by drilling down right through the middle of it to remove it
Mr Francis, you Sir are a master and I salute you. I never ever thought this could be done using a drill press.

So here we are again....
RTA fitted with new screws taken from “Insider RTA”

And a very emotional draining lesson learnt ... I shall never ever ever crank tight those screws again....

Right now I’m in vaping Nevara again.
All I’m now missing is that dam center spread from the scope magazine (issue 24 dated 20 Sept 1974) if anybody has a copy of that for me

And guess it’s Dvarw group award time.
I get the honorary award for being the first person to snap off a post screw deep in the post