Eleaf Lemo RTA
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I got mine at eCiggies, but they've sold out unfortunately...they are getting more stock soon though.
Vape Club also has some incoming - but their's is the "Lemo Drop" version which has a smaller tank.
Best bet would be to monitor the forum or PM @JakesSA (Vape Club) or @Silverbear (eCiggies) to find out specifics.
I see the shop in Melrose arch sells them for R.1000 ! Same guys that took the Istick price down from R.1200 to R.800. You get free delivery and some KY with your order I think.
It's been long overdue
I got the Lemo working finally.
I tried the initial build out the box but it was terrible despite the coil looking so pretty and the cotton being so nicely packed in.
2 sunlight washes later and standing for a while to dry I finally got round to coiling this famous RTA
Bottom line initial impression - I don't like the taste. I probably need more experimentation.
Just a bit of background. I wanted this tank as an easy grab n vape solution at my desk for a lowish power on one of my mentholated fruity juices instead of my Evod1 which I have to refill too often.
Initial build:
28g Vapowire
7 wraps
1.5mm iD
Came out at 1.1 ohms
I wicked with organic cotton. Did it according to RipTripper. Snipped at about chimney height then tucked in and lubed it nicely.
Using the Smok M50
The mighty evod1/MVP lurks in the background
Juice in both is identical. Vapour Mountain Strawberry 18mg with added VM Menthol Concentrate drops.
The taste is bleh. I'm not getting a nice crisp taste like on the Evod1. Not getting that cold menthol blast nearly like in the Evod1. Maybe it's the cotton in the Lemo vs the silica wick in the Evod1.
15 Watts seems to be the best setting for this setup. The least bleh. 10 watts is too low. 20 watts is ok but I start getting some afterburner. And at 30 Watts it's a bit of a burnt taste.
Unless my wicking is really bad I am thinking my Lemo experience is probably just going to be an interesting experience and not what I had hoped for.
By the way, the Lemo is dumb in many ways. Airflow control that changes by itself. Not easy to trap the coil on the screws. Fill port that needs a syringe or a thin tip bottle. And of course, trying to empty the tank if I want to rewick. What a pain compared to my usual REO setups.
I don't doubt that the Lemo could be set up better than I have it but at this point I can say despite me trying hard and being careful, the vape is not as good as my Evod1 and nowhere near my REO/RM2.
I got the Lemo working finally.
I tried the initial build out the box but it was terrible despite the coil looking so pretty and the cotton being so nicely packed in.
2 sunlight washes later and standing for a while to dry I finally got round to coiling this famous RTA
Bottom line initial impression - I don't like the taste. I probably need more experimentation.
Just a bit of background. I wanted this tank as an easy grab n vape solution at my desk for a lowish power on one of my mentholated fruity juices instead of my Evod1 which I have to refill too often.
Initial build:
28g Vapowire
7 wraps
1.5mm iD
Came out at 1.1 ohms
I wicked with organic cotton. Did it according to RipTripper. Snipped at about chimney height then tucked in and lubed it nicely.
Using the Smok M50
The mighty evod1/MVP lurks in the background
Juice in both is identical. Vapour Mountain Strawberry 18mg with added VM Menthol Concentrate drops.
The taste is bleh. I'm not getting a nice crisp taste like on the Evod1. Not getting that cold menthol blast nearly like in the Evod1. Maybe it's the cotton in the Lemo vs the silica wick in the Evod1.
15 Watts seems to be the best setting for this setup. The least bleh. 10 watts is too low. 20 watts is ok but I start getting some afterburner. And at 30 Watts it's a bit of a burnt taste.
Unless my wicking is really bad I am thinking my Lemo experience is probably just going to be an interesting experience and not what I had hoped for.
By the way, the Lemo is dumb in many ways. Airflow control that changes by itself. Not easy to trap the coil on the screws. Fill port that needs a syringe or a thin tip bottle. And of course, trying to empty the tank if I want to rewick. What a pain compared to my usual REO setups.
I don't doubt that the Lemo could be set up better than I have it but at this point I can say despite me trying hard and being careful, the vape is not as good as my Evod1 and nowhere near my REO/RM2.
Maybe try a 2mm ID or larger?
That's terrible news
I honestly can't see anything wrong in the description of your build, and it really should have turned out at least on par with the EVOD1, but actually 10x better in my experience. Almost this exact setup is my favourite for Strawberry Snap (which is similar to the juice you have in there, just maybe a little less mentholy) - I have not been able to beat the taste of it in the Lemo with a 1.0 to 1.3 Ohm coil and cotton wicking @ 14-18W. For this I set the airflow fairly closed off (not all the way, just about 3 full turns from closed).
In fact, I just rebuilt mine today - from the 0.5 para coil I had in there for a week or so, back to my trusty 1.1 Ohm 2.0mm 28G 7Wrap coil. And the result was an immediate success for me - flavour is off the charts with the Nilla Custard I just popped in.
I just don't know what to advise, as with this build of yours everything should be great in my experience
As @Riddle said, maybe try a 2.0 ID build and see if that improves it
Thanks for your impressions. Yeah, I also tried a few RTAs, but always too much trouble compared to bf even if the taste is good.
I have had this discussion a few times and despite trying a billion other setups the bottom line is that nothing and simply nothing can beat the taste and vape of a REO with a Cyclone with a 1,5mm micro coil with Tropical Ice in it...
While the Sub Tank has potential for the lung hitters I can't get near the taste of the Cyclone... not even close!
I think I may be at the end of the road of testing both hardware and juices...
I still remember @Andre telling me a long time ago to stop buying everything that moves and get a REO... he was right.
Next purchases are the new REO with the new 510 connection and the new Woodvil and the new REOsin (Resin REO)!
While the Sub Tank has potential for the lung hitters I can't get near the taste of the Cyclone... not even close!
I think I may be at the end of the road of testing both hardware and juices...
I still remember @Andre telling me a long time ago to stop buying everything that moves and get a REO... he was right.
Next purchases are the new REO with the new 510 connection and the new Woodvil and the new REOsin (Resin REO)!
What is the big deal with the Reo? Its just a dripper, without the need to drip, right? in terms of the vape quality, I mean.
For me, that was it. You get all the flavour of dripping without the inconvenience of dripping.
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Ok, I rewicked with Rayon
My organic cotton wick looked a bit measly when I opened it up but it was all juiced up
I put in slightly more wick than I did before
First half hour it was much better!
Flavour better
I opened the AFC to fully open so I can do lung hits (not as open as the Atlantis but still okay)
Seemed a lot better. Not wow, but much better and I actually quite enjoyed it
Then I put the mod down for a bit and about half an hour later i picked it up and took a puff, it first growled a bit at me and then a puff or two later I got a bit of a dry hit.
I put it down again. Then tried again later. Ok - a bit of growling - then a seriously bad dry hit.
I am on 15 Watts
The vape quality is deteriorating so I suspect there is something wrong with the wick. Or maybe my AFC wide open is not feeding enough juice. Damn, I wish I could rewick but its such a pain to open it up again.
I really cant figure out whats wrong because I watched Rip Tripper again and studied his wicking very carefully.
Sorry guys, but this is starting to remind me of my not so fun Kayfun days. Maybe RTAs and me are just not well suited
I will try again when I gey a chance with another coil and wick and see if its better but right now i am quite sad I cant get this friggin thing to do what I want. I dont mind the dry hits (i assume that can be fixed) but even when it was working fine the first half hour it wasnt that great to my taste.
I vape this strawberry menthol juice on two other devices and have been doing so for some time:
- Atlantis wide open with the same juice on the CF mod is just plain sailing straight out the box. Superb lung hitting. Nice crisp flavour and massive airflow with massive clouds. Last part of the inhale is epic with the menthol. Ok, this is 30 Watts or thereabouts so perhaps not a fair comparison. But heck, it works like a dream.
- Evod1 for mouth to lung only at 7.5 Watts has never let me down in many months. Flavour is crisp, granted not as much vapour but the tight draw pulls lots of flavour and the menthol kicks nicely. Ask @Yiannaki
But this Lemo is just not performing yet. Flavour still seems off - at least from what I know. And its not nearly as crisp so far.
My organic cotton wick looked a bit measly when I opened it up but it was all juiced up
I put in slightly more wick than I did before
First half hour it was much better!
Flavour better
I opened the AFC to fully open so I can do lung hits (not as open as the Atlantis but still okay)
Seemed a lot better. Not wow, but much better and I actually quite enjoyed it
Then I put the mod down for a bit and about half an hour later i picked it up and took a puff, it first growled a bit at me and then a puff or two later I got a bit of a dry hit.
I put it down again. Then tried again later. Ok - a bit of growling - then a seriously bad dry hit.
I am on 15 Watts
The vape quality is deteriorating so I suspect there is something wrong with the wick. Or maybe my AFC wide open is not feeding enough juice. Damn, I wish I could rewick but its such a pain to open it up again.
I really cant figure out whats wrong because I watched Rip Tripper again and studied his wicking very carefully.
Sorry guys, but this is starting to remind me of my not so fun Kayfun days. Maybe RTAs and me are just not well suited
I will try again when I gey a chance with another coil and wick and see if its better but right now i am quite sad I cant get this friggin thing to do what I want. I dont mind the dry hits (i assume that can be fixed) but even when it was working fine the first half hour it wasnt that great to my taste.
I vape this strawberry menthol juice on two other devices and have been doing so for some time:
- Atlantis wide open with the same juice on the CF mod is just plain sailing straight out the box. Superb lung hitting. Nice crisp flavour and massive airflow with massive clouds. Last part of the inhale is epic with the menthol. Ok, this is 30 Watts or thereabouts so perhaps not a fair comparison. But heck, it works like a dream.
- Evod1 for mouth to lung only at 7.5 Watts has never let me down in many months. Flavour is crisp, granted not as much vapour but the tight draw pulls lots of flavour and the menthol kicks nicely. Ask @Yiannaki
But this Lemo is just not performing yet. Flavour still seems off - at least from what I know. And its not nearly as crisp so far.
What @eviltoy said
Plus I will add that for mouth to lung, the RM2 is a classic flavour and throat hit producer
Well, the Reo is just the bottom feeding device actually, which gives you the ease and the convenience and the ruggedness. The bottom fed dripper on top is, as you rightly point out, is what makes the vape. And yes, dripper quality vape, with one slight difference: must less wicking required and much less juice in the juice well. You squonk, the wick is saturated, the extra juice is sucked back into the bottle, you vape. So, fresh juice on the wick all the time.
Of course, not everybody's cup of tea, which is perfectly human. Some prefer cleoromizers, some prefer RTAs, some RDAs, some bottom fed RDAs on Reos.....whatever works best for your personal taste and circumstances.
Thanks @n0ugh7_zw - I appreciate the suggestion
All i want is a tank with a bigger capacity than the Evod1 (which only has 1.5ml) that I can vape my fruity menthol juices in while I am at the computer. Nothing hectic just clean crisp flavour that will last a while.
Looks like I am just going to have to resort to a few Evod tanks loaded and ready
The reason for my need is twofold. Firstly, I have found my Reo/RM2 is excellent for the tobacco juices and the richer complex juices but it doesnt produce the taste i like for the simple fruity ones. Thats just me though. And second, when I am at the computer i sometimes just want a grab n vape solution for mindess vaping without the need for squonking and that doesnt knock me out throat hit wise
I'm still Lemoless, hope to have one soon. I'm going for the Lemo Drop, it's geared more toward flavour. I don't mind the smaller tank as I rarely vape more than about 2ml of a juice before switching flavours. This is one tank I'm really itching to try, this and the SubTank, because it looks so darn cool
Lol @Raslin
I used to build coils for the Evod. In fact, @BhavZ and i spent many long phone calls this time last year debating the merits of grommets and how to wick it. Lol, those were great times.
But i am now using the Evod with stock 1.8 ohm Kanger coils. And i have found that for the mentholated simple fruity juices it just produces such marvellous flavour. Could be the plastic, could be the shape of the driptip or the tight draw. And very possibly the silica wick that is doing it for me in the stock coils.
I am not suggesting that the Evod is better than the Lemo. Just for this juice and for my taste and application. (Mindless vaping)
I was hoping to tune the Lemo into a larger capacity Evod. But i guess that is not going to be easy.
@Silver thanks for your impressions, always interesting to read.
Interestingly I had quite the opposite experience with the lemo drop.
As you may recall, I was very enamored of the atlantis originally, but since I got my lemo drop I have barely touched the atlantis, besides side by side comparisons using the same ohmage coil and the same juice.
I found that while the atlantis has "bigger air", which I loved, the lemo has far better flavour.
The atlantis appears "harsh" by comparison now.
My favorite configuration so far on the lemo, is 5 spaced wraps of 28 gauge around 2.5mm, with a fat rayon wick and airflow turned wide open. (works out to between 1 and 1.1 ohm)
Give this configuration a try if you play with the lemo again, it may give you a more satisfactory vape.
Just remember if you do wick with rayon to use more wick than you normally would have done with cotton. Cotton expands when you add juice to it, rayon contracts, so you need at least 30 - 50% more than a cotton wick.
Some of the cons you mention are definitely valid, however re. the airflow control, if you are OK with the airflow wide open, take a pair of tweezers and turn it open to it's fullest, hard, I found this lodges the ring open. (only valid if you are happy with the airflow wide open.)
When trapping the wire under the screws, make sure that you wind the wire around the screws in the same direction as the screw tightens, (clockwise) as this "pulls" the wire in and holds it as you tighten. If you wind the wire the opposite way around the screw, it tries to push the wire out from under the screw as you tighten.
Tiny fill port and having to empty out juice to rewick/rebuild are valid, altough even the kayfun only solves this in version 4. (which I cant wait for)
Just a thought, have you tried a tighter (more restrictive) drip tip? Ones with a smaller diameter tend to improve flavour slightly
Lol, after writing all these posts I just picked up the Lemo
Turned it down to 12.5 Watts and vaped about 10 puffs (not in a row)
No more dry hits
Strange
Turned it down to 12.5 Watts and vaped about 10 puffs (not in a row)
No more dry hits
Strange
I vape my lemo on 60watts with no dry hits. Its all about the coil.
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