Lockdown diaries - COVID-19 matters!
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So I read more and more articles of people predicting we will probably wear masks in public spaces for the rest of our lives
I can't see it happening. Have a look at the mask opposition in the USA - 'FREEDOM!!!!!!'.
As if being slightly uncomfortable is somehow worse than showing the slightest amount of concern for one's fellow human.
https://theconversation.com/covid-19-herd-immunity-its-not-going-to-happen-so-what-next-165471
COVID-19 herd immunity. It’s not going to happen, so what next?
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The only sustainable solution is to learn to live with the virus.
This will require ensuring that we get the majority of individuals, especially adults, and particularly those at a higher risk of developing severe COVID-19 and dying, vaccinated as quickly as possible. In my view this could be achieved in South Africa with 20 million people vaccinated – not the 40 million target set by the government. But the 20 million would need to include 90% of people above the age of 60, and 90% of people above the age of 35 who have co-morbidities.
If South Africa achieved this milestone, it could get back to a relatively normal lifestyle even with the virus continuing to circulate and causing the occasional outbreak. It would also ensure a threshold that guaranteed its healthcare systems weren’t going to be overwhelmed, and that people were not going to die in large numbers.
We are simply going to have to become comfortable with the idea that SARS-CoV-2 is going to be like one of the numerous other viruses that circulate that cause respiratory illness each day. Usually mild infections, and less often a severe disease.
So people will, unfortunately, continue dying of COVID-19, but certainly not at the magnitude that’s been seen over the past 18 months. A major advance would be for COVID-19 to be no more severe than what is seen every influenza season (10,000 to 11,000 deaths) in South Africa.
The UK experience is where we should be heading. That is getting back to a relatively normal lifestyle, provided that we’ve got a adequate number of people vaccinated, and particularly people who are at higher risk of developing severe COVID-19.
The UK is currently close to 85% of adults that have already received at least a single dose of the vaccine. As a result they’re able to remove almost all restrictions.
The UK is seeing an increase in number of cases of the Delta variant. But they’ve seen very nominal changes when it comes to hospitalisation and death. The vast majority of people (97%) who still end up being hospitalised and dying of COVID-19 in the UK are those who decided not to be vaccinated.
COVID-19 herd immunity. It’s not going to happen, so what next?
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The only sustainable solution is to learn to live with the virus.
This will require ensuring that we get the majority of individuals, especially adults, and particularly those at a higher risk of developing severe COVID-19 and dying, vaccinated as quickly as possible. In my view this could be achieved in South Africa with 20 million people vaccinated – not the 40 million target set by the government. But the 20 million would need to include 90% of people above the age of 60, and 90% of people above the age of 35 who have co-morbidities.
If South Africa achieved this milestone, it could get back to a relatively normal lifestyle even with the virus continuing to circulate and causing the occasional outbreak. It would also ensure a threshold that guaranteed its healthcare systems weren’t going to be overwhelmed, and that people were not going to die in large numbers.
We are simply going to have to become comfortable with the idea that SARS-CoV-2 is going to be like one of the numerous other viruses that circulate that cause respiratory illness each day. Usually mild infections, and less often a severe disease.
So people will, unfortunately, continue dying of COVID-19, but certainly not at the magnitude that’s been seen over the past 18 months. A major advance would be for COVID-19 to be no more severe than what is seen every influenza season (10,000 to 11,000 deaths) in South Africa.
The UK experience is where we should be heading. That is getting back to a relatively normal lifestyle, provided that we’ve got a adequate number of people vaccinated, and particularly people who are at higher risk of developing severe COVID-19.
The UK is currently close to 85% of adults that have already received at least a single dose of the vaccine. As a result they’re able to remove almost all restrictions.
The UK is seeing an increase in number of cases of the Delta variant. But they’ve seen very nominal changes when it comes to hospitalisation and death. The vast majority of people (97%) who still end up being hospitalised and dying of COVID-19 in the UK are those who decided not to be vaccinated.
Considering the 1918 flu was the progenitor to every other flu pandemic ( a hundred years later), yes, this thing is probably here to stay, we will likely never have a SARS-COV-02 free world. We'll have to keep advancing our responses, and other technology, and people will have to get on board with vaccines and the like. They are working on several universal vaccines for influenza and SARS-COV, so I hope that gets done, then we'll get those jabs a few times a year and adapt.
I can feel your pain.
What do you think, what stage is now predominant in our "modern" and "civilized" societies around a globe?
You can now get a PCR test in two hours at OR Tambo – but it will cost you
https://www.businessinsider.co.za/or-tambo-now-has-2-hour-pcr-testing-on-site-2021-8
5 August 2021
"... The Next Pathology division of Next Biosciences this week launched a lab-in-a-box at the Intercontinental Johannesburg OR Tambo Airport hotel, just opposite the international arrivals hall.
There, says the company, it will have a nurse on duty between 06:00 and 22:00 every day to take swabs. Those samples are processed in the same conference room, with results by SMS and email two hours later.
Airline passengers who intend to cross borders are still advised to arrive at the airport at least two hours ahead of departure, though airlines will typically require proof of a negative test at check-in, rather than at boarding.
Many countries require a PCR test less than 48 hours old at the time of arrival
The service is designed for passengers with a connecting flight out of Johannesburg, or who are staying over ahead of transit, Next told Business Insider South Africa.
The company charges R850 for its routine PCR test, with a 24-hour turnaround.
The completely automated rapid test "is a much more expensive technology and therefore only really suitable for those people requiring rapid turnaround times," it said...
Tests must be pre-booked, via travel@nextpath.co.za or 011 697 2931."
https://www.businessinsider.co.za/or-tambo-now-has-2-hour-pcr-testing-on-site-2021-8
5 August 2021
"... The Next Pathology division of Next Biosciences this week launched a lab-in-a-box at the Intercontinental Johannesburg OR Tambo Airport hotel, just opposite the international arrivals hall.
There, says the company, it will have a nurse on duty between 06:00 and 22:00 every day to take swabs. Those samples are processed in the same conference room, with results by SMS and email two hours later.
Airline passengers who intend to cross borders are still advised to arrive at the airport at least two hours ahead of departure, though airlines will typically require proof of a negative test at check-in, rather than at boarding.
Many countries require a PCR test less than 48 hours old at the time of arrival
The service is designed for passengers with a connecting flight out of Johannesburg, or who are staying over ahead of transit, Next told Business Insider South Africa.
The company charges R850 for its routine PCR test, with a 24-hour turnaround.
The completely automated rapid test "is a much more expensive technology and therefore only really suitable for those people requiring rapid turnaround times," it said...
Tests must be pre-booked, via travel@nextpath.co.za or 011 697 2931."
It’s available in some European airports for around 200 euros. So it’ll probably cost around 2 to 2.5k
Bad news about Covid-19 herd immunity in South Africa
''Peddling the concept of herd immunity creates a misconception that we are actually going to get to a stage where this virus is going to be eliminated. That’s unlikely to happen. It will continue circulating.''
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/scie...ty-in-south-africa.html?utm_source=newsletter
''Peddling the concept of herd immunity creates a misconception that we are actually going to get to a stage where this virus is going to be eliminated. That’s unlikely to happen. It will continue circulating.''
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/scie...ty-in-south-africa.html?utm_source=newsletter
All the best. Keep well. It's frightening how easy it is to pick it up.
Just relax and catch up on some Netflix. And follow dr's orders. Not much else you can do.
does a lord of the rings marathon count?
Can't think of a better way. I watched the Loki series and I honestly feel like I wasted a big part of my quarantine.
I’m halfway through the fellowship at the moment. Mini me is nagging to watch them all.
I might do a Star Wars marathon as well.
This is the way
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https://www.france24.com/en/france/...ment-coronavirus-health-pass-despite-protests
France expands locales requiring a Covid-19 'health pass'
"The health pass is generated in a QR code either by a full course of vaccinations, a recent negative virus test or a recovery from Covid-19."
So technically you don't have to have the vaccine, just be virus free, which is understandable.
https://time.com/6088861/marburg-virus/
Haven't heard from this one in a while
France expands locales requiring a Covid-19 'health pass'
"The health pass is generated in a QR code either by a full course of vaccinations, a recent negative virus test or a recovery from Covid-19."
So technically you don't have to have the vaccine, just be virus free, which is understandable.
https://time.com/6088861/marburg-virus/
Haven't heard from this one in a while
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