More discussion on clones

[jm10]

The only reason you will know someone paid R2000 for a bottle of whiskey, is because he will tell you.

It wasnt bought because it makes you drunk faster, or taste better than the R300 bottle

Lmao but my Lagavulin does taste better then j&b to me i also dont tell people to boast about it but to get others to join me in the taste sensation.


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[CeeJay]

Agreed my brother, agreed 110% but some instances, the clones, particularly the Mech mods, are not built with safety in mind, now you tell a noob that look here buddy, here’s a mod that cost 5k example and I’ve got a replica that will cost you 900 and it’s just the same, and in pics you’ll reach fomo level one billion and then there poor guy has the mod short or something worst in his hand, then what?

All vapes and vaping are bad because a bad thing happened to some guy with one and apparently it’s one of the best most expensive ones money can buy? Then what?

We’re having a tough time as it is in terms of legislation in this country do we need bad press right now?

Everyone’s entitled to their opinion granted, and everyone can be pro choice, all I’m saying is educate one another that some clones no matter how good they might look are in fact dangerous!




UV

I agree with a lot of the things you say in terms of piracy. But saying the 5k mod is safer than the 900 mod is far from the truth. Most clones are literally 1:1 especially the mechs. Some clone mechs have better threads than the authentic and actually perform better. Does this make it right? Not at all. It's not clones that's going to give vaping a bad name. It's the NOOB with mech FOMO building 0.05 because he saw Grimm Green doing it and use his prettiest 30Q that was on charge. If you take all this 'kill the clone' enthusiasm and put it into something like educating the uneducated in safety it will have a more positive impact on the vaping community. I feel you're creating unnecessary ripples amongst us peaceful forumites. The clone debate has had its days here. If a Clone can get people away from tobacco products then no harm done in my books.

 

[UzziTherion]

My apologies to ALL, I did NOT intend to start a shit storm, nor did I intend to cause a divide!

My opinion is my opinion and I do NOT look down on anybody in our community, for those of you that know me, you will know where is stand on ALL gear, the main aim as Christos said is to keep off the cigarettes.

I will not say anything further on the clone issue, I personally hate them and will not endorse them or their use, I have no issue with those that use them, choice is yours, just don’t tell me they’re better then the real thing and I over paid, I know what I own and why I spent what I did on it, and I’m happy with MY CHOICE!

I love our community and I do my best to educate and help others, everyone’s entitled to their own opinions and like all things in this crazy mixed up world we live in, no people will ever agree on everything. One thing is for sure, vaping brings us together and the friends and relationships I’ve forged from vaping have become some of my best, EVER, I mean it!

So I apologize unreservedly if I upset or offended anyone, that was not my intention.

Happy Vapes Fam!




UV

 

[Huffapuff]

Just a question: how many HE manufacturers have gone out of business because of clones?

As far as I've seen they sell all of their product pretty smartly. In fact it gets to the point where you can't buy the original and are left with the only options of buying the clone or trawling the classifieds.

Same goes for pirated movies and music - ever seen a poor movie star or pop star or Hollywood studio?

I don't buy this argument that clones steal money from the original creator - it's a fallacy based on the line fed to us by record executives and movie studios protecting their massive profit margin.

 

[jm10]

@clydern


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[Jean claude Vaaldamme]

Just a question: how many HE manufacturers have gone out of business because of clones?

As far as I've seen they sell all of their product pretty smartly. In fact it gets to the point where you can't buy the original and are left with the only options of buying the clone or trawling the classifieds.

Same goes for pirated movies and music - ever seen a poor movie star or pop star or Hollywood studio?

I don't buy this argument that clones steal money from the original creator - it's a fallacy based on the line fed to us by record executives and movie studios protecting their massive profit margin.

Lagavulin

 

[Resistance]

Politics...?
Cool

 

[jm10]

Just a question: how many HE manufacturers have gone out of business because of clones?

As far as I've seen they sell all of their product pretty smartly. In fact it gets to the point where you can't buy the original and are left with the only options of buying the clone or trawling the classifieds.

Same goes for pirated movies and music - ever seen a poor movie star or pop star or Hollywood studio?

I don't buy this argument that clones steal money from the original creator - it's a fallacy based on the line fed to us by record executives and movie studios protecting their massive profit margin.

Good point, i have tried many times for randomisers but cant get in, also they never have stock cause its sold out so fast.

I dont think they have any worries because they are not supplying the same target market at the Cloners.

Remember we are talking globally with thousands upon thousands of HE buyers and they produce a few hundered at a time so there is always a shortage for popular HE gear.


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[jm10]

Politics...?
Cool

We were bored


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[Resistance]

There is a place for clones. Because not all people are cheap.some really can't afford it even when second hand.
Like jm10 said look at the real problem in our country.
Even those that can afford the high life buy Chinese clones and boast

 

[Resistance]

And that includes cars and tech.wiring and cables.fridges, freezers. Tell me no one has never used foreign labour?
And some of that same people that said I just bought me a Ferrari is the same guy that boast how little he pays his workforce.and how cheaper it is to have foreign labour.

 

[Silver]

There is a place for clones. Because not all people are cheap.some really can't afford it even when second hand.

I respectfully disagree with this comment @Resistance

Let's say someone is on a budget and wants to buy a clone of the Skyline. Why do they need the cloned Skyline to stay off the stinkies? Surely there are several other authentic RTAs that are affordable (around the price of the clone Skyline) that would give a great vape as well?

What I am trying to say is that clones are not the only way possible for a vaper to vape when on a budget.

 

[jm10]

And that includes cars and tech.wiring and cables.fridges, freezers. Tell me no one has never used foreign labour?
And some of that same people that said I just bought me a Ferrari is the same guy that boast how little he pays his workforce.and how cheaper it is to have foreign labour.

Agreed, its just like @KZOR said- there is no one that is innocent and that hasn’t done something that others consider wrong.


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[Jean claude Vaaldamme]

Havent used a clone but was thinking.
Lets say you take a recurve rda and out it on a R800 clone and vape at 55watts
Now will you get a better flavour and cloud if you put that recurve on an R20 000 mod at 55watts, that was made out of a piece of wood cut from a tree that some indigious tribe's chief's grandmother planted two days before, the second last dodo in the world, fell out a tree on here head, killing her instandly, the wood was then polished with ashes from the vulcano that claimed the chielf's father after he ate rotten marulas, then polished with cocnut oil mixed with the foreskin of the chief's son, that died 6 days and seven nights after the ceremony?

 

[BioHAZarD]

Havent used a clone but was thinking.
Lets say you take a recurve rda and out it on a R800 clone and vape at 55watts
Now will you get a better flavour and cloud if you put that recurve on an R20 000 mod at 55watts, that was made out of a piece of wood cut from a tree that some indigious tribe's chief's grandmother planted two days before, the second last dodo in the world, fell out a tree on here head, killing her instandly, the wood was then polished with ashes from the vulcano that claimed the chielf's father after he ate rotten marulas, then polished with cocnut oil mixed with the foreskin of the chief's son, that died 6 days and seven nights after the ceremony?

Dude this is possibly your best post yet.
Almost wet myself laughing.

 

[Silver]

Havent used a clone but was thinking.
Lets say you take a recurve rda and out it on a R800 clone and vape at 55watts
Now will you get a better flavour and cloud if you put that recurve on an R20 000 mod at 55watts, that was made out of a piece of wood cut from a tree that some indigious tribe's chief's grandmother planted two days before, the second last dodo in the world, fell out a tree on here head, killing her instandly, the wood was then polished with ashes from the vulcano that claimed the chielf's father after he ate rotten marulas, then polished with cocnut oil mixed with the foreskin of the chief's son, that died 6 days and seven nights after the ceremony?

I don't think the exotic wood you are talking about would make any difference to the vape @Jean claude Vaaldamme
If the electronic board inside and the contacts and batteries are the same, then I think the vape would be identical.

 

[jm10]

Havent used a clone but was thinking.
Lets say you take a recurve rda and out it on a R800 clone and vape at 55watts
Now will you get a better flavour and cloud if you put that recurve on an R20 000 mod at 55watts, that was made out of a piece of wood cut from a tree that some indigious tribe's chief's grandmother planted two days before, the second last dodo in the world, fell out a tree on here head, killing her instandly, the wood was then polished with ashes from the vulcano that claimed the chielf's father after he ate rotten marulas, then polished with cocnut oil mixed with the foreskin of the chief's son, that died 6 days and seven nights after the ceremony?

Well that was very detailed


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[BioHAZarD]

My apologies to ALL, I did NOT intend to start a shit storm, nor did I intend to cause a divide!

My opinion is my opinion and I do NOT look down on anybody in our community, for those of you that know me, you will know where is stand on ALL gear, the main aim as Christos said is to keep off the cigarettes.

I will not say anything further on the clone issue, I personally hate them and will not endorse them or their use, I have no issue with those that use them, choice is yours, just don’t tell me they’re better then the real thing and I over paid, I know what I own and why I spent what I did on it, and I’m happy with MY CHOICE!

I love our community and I do my best to educate and help others, everyone’s entitled to their own opinions and like all things in this crazy mixed up world we live in, no people will ever agree on everything. One thing is for sure, vaping brings us together and the friends and relationships I’ve forged from vaping have become some of my best, EVER, I mean it!

So I apologize unreservedly if I upset or offended anyone, that was not my intention.

Happy Vapes Fam!




UV

Now that is @UzziTherion we all know and love.
Humble to the last.

 

[UzziTherion]

Now that is @UzziTherion we all know and love.
Humble to the last.

We’re family here and families have their disagreements but at the end of the day it’s nothing but love

Thanx my brother


UV

 

[jm10]

We’re family here and families have their disagreements but at the end of the day it’s nothing but love

Thanx my brother


UV

I know you hate me and everything right now but can i have your Pellucid now




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[Adephi]

Just a question: how many HE manufacturers have gone out of business because of clones?

As far as I've seen they sell all of their product pretty smartly. In fact it gets to the point where you can't buy the original and are left with the only options of buying the clone or trawling the classifieds.

Same goes for pirated movies and music - ever seen a poor movie star or pop star or Hollywood studio?

I don't buy this argument that clones steal money from the original creator - it's a fallacy based on the line fed to us by record executives and movie studios protecting their massive profit margin.

Completely agree.

If the manufacturer's bread and butter depend on it, why would they make it impossible for 99% of the vaping community to get their product? You make your product more affordable to sell more and in turn make more profit.

 

[UzziTherion]

I know you hate me and everything right now but can i have your Pellucid now




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I don’t hate you my brother or anyone else in our community for that matter

Which one, I have 2


UV

 

[Resistance]

True @Silver.
But and yes there's a but...if you make the kayfun sound that good,someone would want to try it even if they can't afford it.
Same as in when it can't afford an authentic car...or are really cheap you buy a Toyota,hyundai,cherry,tata etc.with features of authentic cars.lol

 

[lesvaches]

True @Silver.
But and yes there's a but...if you make the kayfun sound that good,someone would want to try it even if they can't afford it.
Same as in when it can't afford an authentic car...or are really cheap you buy a Toyota,hyundai,cherry,tata etc.with features of authentic cars.lol

"authentic cars"

 

[Resistance]

"authentic cars"

In the 70s and 80's that was a huge topic.Japanese and Chinese cars that stole from the supposedly authentic brands.
Maybe they should do what they did and merge with clone manufacturers and become huge enterprises.