More discussion on clones

Geeze i thought the internet was exploding .... was actually just @Constantbester doing the rounds.

must be the most lovable fellow around these parts :)
 
jm10 said:
You dont see spar customers fighting checkers customers because spar has a problem with checkers.
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This. If some in the community feel an obligation to fight battles on behalf of vaping manufacturers, that is their decision. My approach is that it's not my business. I have no doubt that FMCG is a very dirty sector in which companies pull unethical dirty tricks on each other continually. When I walk into PnP with my trolley, I don't care. The items are on the shelf, they are legal, I'm going to buy the items that appeal to me, not the items that pass the ethical purity test.

I don't accept that HE companies are losing sales due to clones. As others have said, HE items sell out within 3.75 seconds of being offered on FB. They are not losing sales for the simple reason that they have no stock to sell. If they want to sell more products and make more money, maybe they should do larger production batches, such that mortals are able to access the item without having to know someone on the inside or winning a random draw on FB.

The companies who are losing sales due to clones are the budget OG companies like Vandy Vape, Wotofo, DigiFlavor, etc. They don't seem to have a problem with clones. And if they do, it's up to them to sort it out, not me. This is why regulation is required and why it exists in the first place. It's so that consumers don't need to worry about or get involved in these matters.
 
RichJB said:
This. If some in the community feel an obligation to fight battles on behalf of vaping manufacturers, that is their decision. My approach is that it's not my business. I have no doubt that FMCG is a very dirty sector in which companies pull unethical dirty tricks on each other continually. When I walk into PnP with my trolley, I don't care. The items are on the shelf, they are legal, I'm going to buy the items that appeal to me, not the items that pass the ethical purity test.

I don't accept that HE companies are losing sales due to clones. As others have said, HE items sell out within 3.75 seconds of being offered on FB. They are not losing sales for the simple reason that they have no stock to sell. If they want to sell more products and make more money, maybe they should do larger production batches, such that mortals are able to access the item without having to know someone on the inside or winning a random draw on FB.

The companies who are losing sales due to clones are the budget OG companies like Vandy Vape, Wotofo, DigiFlavor, etc. They don't seem to have a problem with clones. And if they do, it's up to them to sort it out, not me. This is why regulation is required and why it exists in the first place. It's so that consumers don't need to worry about or get involved in these matters.
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Exactly it has zero to do with us and the HE manufactures crying need to handle their own business.

Good point on vandy/wotofo......


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I am going to repeat myself here :)

This discussion has nothing to do with whether clones are good or bad. On the other hand it also has nothing to do with whether authentic is good or bad.

The main point is that we as vapers want to be free to choose. If you want to punt exclusivity to a particular camp - do it elsewhere. If you want to market you allegiance to anything but fee choice then do it elsewhere.

If you want to vape and be happy doing it then by all means punt away :)

Hopefully nobody see’s this as trolling. We can’t have that again. The space under the bridge is just getting sooooo crowded. I will however bully anyone that wants to be bullied. You just need to ask :) Maybe even some folk that just deserve it :)

CB:demon7:
 
BioHAZarD said:
I am going to repeat myself here :)

This discussion has nothing to do with whether clones are good or bad. On the other hand it also has nothing to do with whether authentic is good or bad.

The main point is that we as vapers want to be free to choose. If you want to punt exclusivity to a particular camp - do it elsewhere. If you want to market you allegiance to anything but fee choice then do it elsewhere.

If you want to vape and be happy doing it then by all means punt away :)

Hopefully nobody see’s this as trolling. We can’t have that again. The space under the bridge is just getting sooooo crowded. I will however bully anyone that wants to be bullied. You just need to ask :) Maybe even some folk that just deserve it :)

CB:demon7:
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Thank you for steering the train back onto the right track, we got caught up but you are right, freedom of choice was the whole point.

You seem to be very calm and the voice of reason now days and its freaking me out


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jm10 said:
Thank you for steering the train back onto the right track, we got caught up but you are right, freedom of choice was the whole point.

You seem to be very calm and the voice of reason now days and its freaking me out


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I am a very calm, level headed person ... sometimes .... just sometimes there are situations/individuals that get under my skin a little and the devil comes out :)

But don’t worry ... he is on standby :)
 
BioHAZarD said:
I am going to repeat myself here :)

This discussion has nothing to do with whether clones are good or bad. On the other hand it also has nothing to do with whether authentic is good or bad.

The main point is that we as vapers want to be free to choose. If you want to punt exclusivity to a particular camp - do it elsewhere. If you want to market you allegiance to anything but fee choice then do it elsewhere.

If you want to vape and be happy doing it then by all means punt away :)

Hopefully nobody see’s this as trolling. We can’t have that again. The space under the bridge is just getting sooooo crowded. I will however bully anyone that wants to be bullied. You just need to ask :) Maybe even some folk that just deserve it :)

CB:demon7:
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i didn’t ask for it but received it in abundance...
 
One and a half years down the line and we still debating about clones and overpriced gear.

:FACEPALM:

Feels like I'm watching(Reading) 'Days of our Lives' here. You can skip a whole year and the jump right back in and feels like you haven't missed a episode.
:SADWHY:whhhhhhyyyy.....
 
Clouds4Days said:
One and a half years down the line and we still debating about clones and overpriced gear.

:FACEPALM:

Feels like I'm watching(Reading) 'Days of our Lives' here. You can skip a whole year and the jump right back in and feels like you haven't missed a episode.
:SADWHY:whhhhhhyyyy.....
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Ground hog vape


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What a lekker vape I'm having right now on my clone Dvarw MTL .

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Then I got my clone Dvarw DL back at work which I love.
I must be honest I had a Authentic Dvarw DL which I sold and I get better flavour from my clone Dvarw DL. I think it's the sweet taste of not being ripped off :-D
 
BioHAZarD said:
Maybe you should give it to @Martin Narainsamy or @Daniel for a review. Bday special :)
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Its weird, i expected more voices about this opinion but it never happened, if someone reads this thread it may seem alittle one sided which we never wanted so please the no clone followers, the floor is yours.

Please remember we want a healthy debate and lets all keep calm about it.

We dont want any resentment so speak your minds guys.


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Time for me to go eat some clone Wilards chips and drink some clone Pepsi.
Simba and Coka-Cola is to HE for me :-D
 
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