Pros and Cons of temp control

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Hi guys

So i have been considering getting into temperature control for some time. I recall a while back, @Paulie tested the first DNA40 devices. Since then, the temp control devices have advanced quite a bit and I know some vapers swear by it now. But i have also heard there can be issues.

I am wondering if we will look back a year from now and say, remember when we used Kanthal and didnt control temperature... Lol

So this goes to all the vapers using temp control in their vaping. (@huffnpuff , @Paulie , @Yiannaki , @Rob Fisher and all the other guys who have these marvellous devices)

Please spare a moment to tell us your pros and cons
Also tell us how much vaping you do on temp control versus "normal non temp control"

I think this thread has the potential to help many people.
 
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Silver said:
Hi guys

So i have been considering getting into temperature control for some time. I recall a while back, @Paulie tested the first DNA40 devices. Since then, the temp control devices have advanced quite a bit and I know some vapers swear by it now. But i have also heard there can be issues.

I am wondering if we will look back a year from now and say, remember when we used Kanthal and didnt control temperature... Lol

So this goes to all the vapers using temp control in their vaping. (@huffnpuff , @Paulie , @Yiannaki , @Rob Fisher and all the other guys who have these marvellous devices)

Please spare a moment to tell us your pros and cons
Also tell us how much vaping you do on temp control versus "normal non temp control"

I think this thread has the potential to help many people.
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great idea to start this thread @Silver
I will also be keeping a close eye on this thread.
@eviltoy and @Yusuf Cape Vaper will also have some valuable input in this regard
 
Awesome idea. I'm interested in hearing this as well. I'm also considering a temperature control device but not sure if it is really worth it.
 
I have a brilliant set up for temp control with the SX Mini (which really is the best regulated and temp control device on the planet right now from all points of view) and on top I have the Taifun GT 2 (which I consider the best all round tank by a long shot because it's a very different tank to all the others I have played with and gives an awesome flavour).

OK so I have all this wonderful state of the art technology equipment... what device do I use 95% of the time and why?

I use Old Avril and new Athena the REO Grand and the new Woodvil... The reasons are two fold... the vape for me is perfect (the above setup is very close) but the maintenance and usability of the REO really works for me. I like to change wicks often and it's a piece of cake in the Cyclone... filling the bottle is a doddle!

Am I going to get rid of my SX MIni? Nope! The temp control with the Taifun is a fantastic vape and I don't have to worry about dry hits or squonking and I love playing and experimenting with kit!
 
Quite simply put you have maximum amount of wire (compared to kanthal) around wick to get maximum flavour and at a desired temperature. The dry burn thing is just a bonus as I don't really let any wick to get dry nowadays. This is certainly the future of vaping. Also tempered NI 200 is so much better to use than the standard one.
 
Andre said:
Great thread @Silver.
And now we also have Titanium wire for temperature controlled vaping.
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I was reading up on Titanium wire yesterday, and it seems there's a bit of controversy around it. I think titanium vapour (oxide?) is a known carcinogen. I'm still trying to get all the facts together, but do some research before going the titanium route...
 
Just for trivia sake; all metals oxidize over time, even Gold - some just slower than others. So I don't know whats up with the hoo-ha regarding Titanium oxidizing compared to Nickel and/or Kanthal alloy?
 
Titanuim wick! That will probably last a lifetime being used as a coil. One, you've created the perfect build, you can have it forever and never have to worry about trying to re-create the same again.
 
Great post @Silver :D

I have been using temp control almost exclusively for the last month and messing around with temp control for at least 2 months.

Pros

- No dry hits : Be it chain vaping a tank or using a dripper I no longer get any dry hits. I can just simply vape and not have to worry if I have enough juice on my wick. Not having to experience a dry hit is a winner for me.

- Great Flavour : To say that temp control flavour is better than kanthal would be a lie. It definitely is different. I can however say that it does allow for a different flavour experience. Juices I have tried on both kanthal builds and nickle builds taste slightly different. I have really enjoyed this different flavour experience.

Cons

- Can be a bit fiddly to ensure initial resistance is read correctly as the tank/rda needs to be room temp.
- Coils cannot be dry burned. So i recoil more often than I would with kanthal.
 
Yiannaki said:
Great post @Silver :D

I have been using temp control almost exclusively for the last month and messing around with temp control for at least 2 months.

Pros

- No dry hits : Be it chain vaping a tank or using a dripper I no longer get any dry hits. I can just simply vape and not have to worry if I have enough juice on my wick. Not having to experience a dry hit is a winner for me.

- Great Flavour : To say that temp control flavour is better than kanthal would be a lie. It definitely is different. I can however say that it does allow for a different flavour experience. Juices I have tried on both kanthal builds and nickle builds taste slightly different. I have really enjoyed this different flavour experience.

Cons

- Can be a bit fiddly to ensure initial resistance is read correctly as the tank/rda needs to be room temp.
- Coils cannot be dry burned. So i recoil more often than I would with kanthal.
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Useful info, thank @Yiannaki. Why can you not dry burn (maybe with the temp control off)?
 
Yiannaki said:
My one build i am running on the SX is 0.07 ohms and the SX wont fire it outside of temp mode to dry burn.
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Ok mine is at 0.11 ohms, so that's probably why my Sig will fire the coil. I still need to do a dual on my Doge V2 :D
 
Yiannaki said:
My one build i am running on the SX is 0.07 ohms and the SX wont fire it outside of temp mode to dry burn.
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Ah, I see...thanks. So, seems to me I have all your pros and none of your cons on my Reo?
 
Pros - Brilliant flavour
- No dry hits
- Technology comes in new devices
- changes are always fun
- coils last longer (less gunking)
- pre-made temp coils work really well

Cons - Some companies are advertising there products as temp devices and they dont work in temp mode (cough M80)
- DNA 40 modules are still giving trouble and are still not 100%
- Information on how to use temp mode and build coils is still not easily available or understood.
- limited to coil building setups (spaced coils only)
- To many wraps required and therefore space is a issue on RDA and RTAs (9-13 wrapps usually with 28G)
 
Yiannaki said:
Great post @Silver :D
- Great Flavour : To say that temp control flavour is better than kanthal would be a lie. It definitely is different. I can however say that it does allow for a different flavour experience. Juices I have tried on both kanthal builds and nickle builds taste slightly different. I have really enjoyed this different flavour experience.
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I agree @Yiannaki, the flavours are very different. I am currently vaping nora's dream on my sig/goliath and in my IPV4/Smok vct with nickel coils, and although the flavours coming through are different, I wouldn't say either is better (both are great). I was sceptical about getting into temp control, and it has taken me a few days of playing around to figure it out, but i am glad i have... It provides a much smoother and constant vaping experience, set to exactly what your preference is.
 
Thanks for all the info guys

Am enjoying reading this

@Yiannaki - you make a good point that the very low ohm builds cannot be dry burned on "normal" mods because they are too low. But out of interest, what happens if you turn up the temperature to the maximum and try dry burn it in temp control mode?

Also, as an aside - when we dry burn our normal kanthal builds and it glows red, I wonder what temperature the coil is reaching? I assume that is much higher than the temp control settings...
 
Silver said:
Thanks for all the info guys

Am enjoying reading this

@Yiannaki - you make a good point that the very low ohm builds cannot be dry burned on "normal" mods because they are too low. But out of interest, what happens if you turn up the temperature to the maximum and try dry burn it in temp control mode?

Also, as an aside - when we dry burn our normal kanthal builds and it glows red, I wonder what temperature the coil is reaching? I assume that is much higher than the temp control settings...
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I have actually tried this :p

I pulled out the cotton, lifted the temperature to 300 degrees Celsius/ 600 F and the coil does not glow at all. lol

I did try touching it after that to make sure its working and burned my finger :p
 
Thanks @Yiannaki - so when it glows red hot, we know its much hotter than 300 deg C then...
Pity about the burnt finger though... in the name of science...
 
How is temp control stopping dry hits? I have no knowledge of temp control.
 
Mufasa said:
How is temp control stopping dry hits? I have no knowledge of temp control.
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The resistance of Nickel wire changes with temperature. So it knows what the current temp is and how fast it is changing. If it changes too quickly then it knows there is no liquid to cool it down and it registers it as a dry hit :)
 
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