Scammer alert - What was the outcome?

[Ohmen]

It seems like this story has just disappeared. If I remember correctly @ShaneW was going to investigate the alleged email from Patric West at Absa and provide some feedback with regards to it's validity. Admins please give the rest of us some feedback.

"Hi everyone,

I just want to give my side of the story with regards to the post that was made, as I feel it is fair to hear both sides of a story.

I am in no means or intended to be named a 'scammer' or am trying to be one, I placed some orders at various vendors, not trying to scam anyone by any means. I have been having issues with my bank, ABSA - where they were doing an online migration for a better looking and new system that works more efficient, but for me the website was not working the way it should be.

I had no issues in the past with any vendors, everything was perfect and working - Notice this all happened in the relatively same time period while the migration was taken place.

I would get notifications with payments that are going through, but they didn't actually pull through, I contacted my bank recently after getting numerous emails from vendors asking me whats going on - here is the reponse and I quote;

'Dear Matthew

Thank you for your email.

Please note I have received feedback from our system engineers.

Please accept our sincere apology for the inconvenience caused regarding the online banking.

Our system engineers are currently attending to the problem; we unfortunately do not have a stipulated time as to how long it will take them for resolution of the problem. I do appreciate your patience while we resolve the problem.

Please note you can also try using a different browser eg. Internet Explorer 8 or 9 or Mozilla Firefox.

Should you require further assistance, please feel free to contact me via email attechnical@absa.co.za or do not hesitate to contact the call centre again on 08600 08600 (+27 11 501 5110).

Regards

Patric West
Email Administrator
Absa Internet Banking
www.absa.co.za"


After the vendors emailed me, asking what's going on, i immediately went to my bank and that's the response I got.

With no hesitation I paid everyone the outstanding amount that was owed and I apologized to everyone involved. And I would like to do so again;

I would like to apologize to everyone that got affected by this, I tried to resolve it as soon as all of this starting arising, I apologize to the community as a whole and I ask that you accept this apology as it was by no means on purpose, and I did not mean to hurt anyone, If you were affected by this, please send me a PM or an email and I will try and resolve it ASAP.

Thanks for taking the time to read this, i would just like to give my side of the story."

 

[blujeenz]

You know how the crowd goes quiet when someone bellyflops from the top board at Sea Point Pavilion...

 

[Eequinox]

You know how the crowd goes quiet when someone bellyflops from the top board at Sea Point Pavilion...

i agree some feedback would be nice the guy was crucified ob here and i will not lie i also participated in that crucifixion

 

[blujeenz]

i agree some feedback would be nice the guy was crucified ob here and i will not lie i also participated in that crucifixion

I wouldn't feel bad at all about bringing the nails and hammer, he seemed to be trending to be vaping's first zama zama (chancer/trying of luck), ie many incidents over a period of time.

 

[Ohmen]

I'm sure the Mods have some info.

Please show yourself.

@BumbleBee @Rob Fisher @Alex @Marzuq @Gizmo @Yiannaki

 

[Eequinox]

I'm sure the Mods have some info.

Please show yourself.

@BumbleBee @Rob Fisher @Alex @Marzuq @Gizmo @Yiannaki

lol i'm sure someone will reply when they get a chance

 

[Marzuq]

I'm sure the Mods have some info.

Please show yourself.

@BumbleBee @Rob Fisher @Alex @Marzuq @Gizmo @Yiannaki

Thanks for the tag bud. The only ones who are able to shed some light on this matter is the ones that were affected. Hopefully they have all been sorted out with payment of outstanding balances. Lets wait on the vendors to respond to this thread and take it from there.
For now lets assume that the original thread has died down as a result of all issues and differences being resolved.
@ShaneW

 

[Ohmen]

Thanks for the tag bud. The only ones who are able to shed some light on this matter is the ones that were affected. Hopefully they have all been sorted out with payment of outstanding balances. Lets wait on the vendors to respond to this thread and take it from there.
For now lets assume that the original thread has died down as a result of all issues and differences being resolved.
@ShaneW

Thanks @Marzuq.

Agreed, lets wait for the affected parties to respond.

 

[Oupa]

I assume all vendors were paid in full. Not sure how other vendors will treat orders from this individual in the future... And not only orders from this individual, but all orders going forward unfortunately. Either we get a PoP directly from the bank or we wait until funds clear before sending any merchandise.

 

[Ohmen]

I assume all vendors were paid in full. Not sure how other vendors will treat orders from this individual in the future... And not only orders from this individual, but all orders going forward unfortunately. Either we get a PoP directly from the bank or we wait until funds clear before sending any merchandise.

It's sad that one rotten apple spoils the whole bunch but nevertheless it's the best option going forward.

That dude however, he is not to be trusted!

 

[andro]

personally i will leave this story where it is. Affected party hopefully been sorted and all.
For us as a community is no real interest ( unless close to gossips IMO), and the way that we deal with others here will be the same . Most of us know each other and if not do a deal face to face .

Just my 2cents

 

[Rob Fisher]

Same story as @Marzuq. I wasn't affected.

 

[Eequinox]

personally i will leave this story where it is. Affected party hopefully been sorted and all.
For us as a community is no real interest ( unless close to gossips IMO), and the way that we deal with others here will be the same . Most of us know each other and if not do a deal face to face .

Just my 2cents

i am interested to be honest i just want to know if he was brought to book

 

[Ashley A]

i am interested to be honest i just want to know if he was brought to book

...or if he was innocent?

 

[Eequinox]

...or if he was innocent?

nope i just wanted to know if the sleeze bag paid all he owed

 

[Jakey]

nope i just wanted to know if the sleeze bag paid all he owed

@Eequinox you seem 100% sure that he is guilty. im not saying hes innocent. But you seem to know something we dont. I dont think those comments arr fair, especially since the affected parties (which I dont think you were part of) have not responded.

I really think that all threads opened regarding this matter should be closed immediately if it is not from the accused or the vendors involved.

Seems like we all like a bit of drama, but im not enjoying this particular saga.

 

[Eequinox]

@Eequinox you seem 100% sure that he is guilty. im not saying hes innocent. But you seem to know something we dont. I dont think those comments arr fair, especially since the affected parties (which I dont think you were part of) have not responded.

I really think that all threads opened regarding this matter should be closed immediately if it is not from the accused or the vendors involved.

Seems like we all like a bit of drama, but im not enjoying this particular saga.

maybe you know something we don't defending a scammer innocent or not i only know what has been posted on both forums and make my own choices.I just find it peculiar that everything went dead quiet maybe he has been proved innocent and he have no idea i know it goes both ways and i am open to that and i would like to know for all we know this guy is trading here under another name

 

[stevie g]

Who cares about being kind or being mean. We want to know if the mod team has banned him or not.

 

[Eequinox]

maybe you know something we don't defending a scammer innocent or not i only know what has been posted on both forums and make my own choices.I just find it peculiar that everything went dead quiet maybe he has been proved innocent and he have no idea i know it goes both ways and i am open to that and i would like to know for all we know this guy is trading here under another name

looks like i touched a nerve there.Can you honestly say that the outcome of the saga is not of interest to the vaping community ?

 

[Jakey]

Im not defending him. Just not flat out attacking him either. But calling the guy a sleeze bag when you dont even know if he is innocent or not doesn't seem fair to me. Why wait for the vendors response when youve clearly made your mind up.

Anyways, you are entitled to your oen opinion, no matter how harsh they come across.

 

[Eequinox]

Who cares about being kind or being mean. We want to know if the mod team has banned him or not.

agreed

 

[stevie g]

Listen where there is smoke there is fire. I want to know that I can rely on the mods to make tough decisions for the good of the community.

 

[Eequinox]

Im not defending him. Just not flat out attacking him either. But calling the guy a sleeze bag when you dont even know if he is innocent or not doesn't seem fair to me. Why wait for the vendors response when youve clearly made your mind up.

Anyways, you are entitled to your oen opinion, no matter how harsh they come across.

at least we can agree to disagree .I call things as i see them of im wrong im wrong if im right im right but not gonna be all mambi pampie about it i don't have to walk on eggshells for anyone.The world is not sunshine and roses

 

[Ohmen]

Im not defending him. Just not flat out attacking him either. But calling the guy a sleeze bag when you dont even know if he is innocent or not doesn't seem fair to me. Why wait for the vendors response when youve clearly made your mind up.

Anyways, you are entitled to your oen opinion, no matter how harsh they come across.

That is why this thread was created. So that everyone else who was wondering(like me) can know what the outcome of this story was.

I said he can't be trusted and I have my reason for that.

Believe me my intention was not to start more $h#t.

 

[Christos]

This guy went out and faked proof of payments.
I'm with said bank and I know when money leaves my account. This bank story is bullshit and we all know it.

You don't spend 15k on goods and claim you didn't know money left your account.

After said person paid off debts we went and hit other vendors for a similar amount.
Why do you buy stuff you can't afford and wait till pay day to settle accounts?

This guy hit vendors a second time after accounts were settled.

I think we all know con artists are a common occurrence these days.
That being said I wish everyone happiness.
/done with this thread and scammed.