SmokTech TFV4 - Noob advise request

[Greyz]

Hi Fellow Vapers,

If this is in the wrong section I apologise - mods are welcome to move it to the correct section
I've only recently discovered the joy of Vaping after many unsucessful attempts at trying to quit using my Twisp. I was never able to stop smoking for longer than a week or so. Being new to I thought it best to seek advise on how to get the most from theTFV4 I received yesterday.

After some advise from friends I chose to purchase the EVic VTC Mini over the KangetTech Sub Box mini. I absolutely love this mod, it produces a pretty decent amount of vapour with the standard tank. This device has literally saved my life, tomorrow makes it 5 weeks without an analogue. (Didn't think I'd make it through xmas with all the drinking but I did).

My OCD had me now trawling forums looking at different tanks etc. Fell in love with SmokTech TFV4 and I ordered one online. The price was so too good to pass up, I paid $27 for the full kit. I emailed Smoktech support last night and this morning received a reply:

"Hello,valued customer

Congratulations!

Your product is authentic.

Thank you for your time."

In case any one wants here is the LINK

Now here's where things become unhinged a little.....
I jumped the gun (impulse buy brought on by the unbelievable price) and didn't do my research. Turns out my 75W eVic is just not powerful enough to run the Triple and Quad coils that came with it :'( Looks like the Trip and Quad coils only really start shine at 80 with guys reporting the best flavour in the 100W region.

So last night I wicked the coil that comes pre-installed in the RBA and I'm running that for now. I'm not wasting a Triple or Quad testing it out when I know 75W won't cut it.
The tank works great using the single coil RBA, I really didn't expect it to chuck much vapour but it does.

Here's where I'm hoping the eCigssa community will help me out.
I need advise on the correct mod for this tank and also if any of you have the TFV4 please share your wicking and coiling techniques.
I'm really looking to save some Tom and get the right mod first time and learn some tips from those in the know. I know there are tons of how to videos regarding coiling\wicking but I want some local, South Africa, advise

TL;DR
I bought a TFV4 now I need a advise on mod and coiling\wicking

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5KxY-ywG5bfdnkyT3EtZVllV00
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5KxY-ywG5bfdnkyT3EtZVllV00
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5KxY-ywG5bfdnkyT3EtZVllV00
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5KxY-ywG5bfdnkyT3EtZVllV00
Whats a thread without pics (fixed links sorry)

 

[Nimatek]

Personally I love the RBA deck for this tank. Did you get the full size or the mini ? Think the RBAs are a little different so need to know this.

Regarding mod and the stock coils - more power is better as these coils really shine on higher power. Not needed but for better results it is worth it.
In your shoes I would look at either the Joytech Cuboid or the RX200. Both well priced and going up to 200w. Not that you need that much, but it is there for when you get a little crazy

 

[MorneW]

I have the TFV4 mini and am using the TF-RCA (Clapton rebuild-able coil head). You can find it local here.
I use 24G SS 300 spaced in the one and Clapton wire in the other. Running them at 40w and it's awesome. Don't have experience with the RBA you're using. If you do buy the TF-RCA I will be more than willing to help. As for the mod. You can't go wrong with either the Wismec RX200 or Joytech Cuboid. I

 

[GlacieredPyro]

I have the full size.
The clapton RBA is great for single coil builds for the VTC.

You want a 100W mod for this tank minimum.
I vape the tri coil at 100W and it's still cool enough.

I would suggest a different drip tip. I find the tfv4 drip tip to be damn gross, uncomfortable and leaky.

 

[Greyz]

Personally I love the RBA deck for this tank. Did you get the full size or the mini ? Think the RBAs are a little different so need to know this.

Regarding mod and the stock coils - more power is better as these coils really shine on higher power. Not needed but for better results it is worth it.
In your shoes I would look at either the Joytech Cuboid or the RX200. Both well priced and going up to 200w. Not that you need that much, but it is there for when you get a little crazy`

Personally I love the RBA deck for this tank. Did you get the full size or the mini ? Think the RBAs are a little different so need to know this.

Regarding mod and the stock coils - more power is better as these coils really shine on higher power. Not needed but for better results it is worth it.
In your shoes I would look at either the Joytech Cuboid or the RX200. Both well priced and going up to 200w. Not that you need that much, but it is there for when you get a little crazy

Howzit Nimatek, thanks for replying. I purchased the full size TFV4 - you can view the item in the LINK (I durp'd earlier and messed the link up but it's fixed now). Are you using the single RBA that came with the TFV4 or have you got the dual coil RBA?
I am looking at the JoyTec 150W as I like the build quality and I like the way TC is so simple to setup and use.
I agree that 200W is crazy power but hey 5 weeks ago I thought 75W was overkill and way more than I needed - I couldn't have been more wrong

 

[Greyz]

I have the TFV4 mini and am using the TF-RCA (Clapton rebuild-able coil head). You can find it local here.
I use 24G SS 300 spaced in the one and Clapton wire in the other. Running them at 40w and it's awesome. Don't have experience with the RBA you're using. If you do buy the TF-RCA I will be more than willing to help. As for the mod. You can't go wrong with either the Wismec RX200 or Joytech Cuboid. I

Schweet!
You said you have the Mini, is this compatible with the Full size TFV4? ie. are the coils etc interchangeable?

EDIT: Looks like a single coil but has 4 screws, can you do dual Clapton on that deck?

 

[GlacieredPyro]

The full size comes with the single RBA.
The mini comes with what they call the clapton RBA (RCA).

The RCA is effectively an improved version of the single RBA.
I have all 3 the RBA and the RCA is the only one I've bothered to touch as it works well at low power.
I use the OCC coils at high power.

 

[Greyz]

I have the full size.
The clapton RBA is great for single coil builds for the VTC.

You want a 100W mod for this tank minimum.
I vape the tri coil at 100W and it's still cool enough.

I would suggest a different drip tip. I find the tfv4 drip tip to be damn gross, uncomfortable and leaky.

So sad how my 75W eVic became obsolete, literally, over night
I'm looking at the 150W joytec, I don't have any budget so to speak but if I can save a few $ why not
Any suggestions on whuch mod to get?

 

[Greyz]

The full size comes with the single RBA.
The mini comes with what they call the clapton RBA (RCA).

The RCA is effectively an improved version of the single RBA.
I have all 3 the RBA and the RCA is the only one I've bothered to touch as it works well at low power.
I use the OCC coils at high power.

Do you have a link to where I can get a dual RBA locally? I could order from eFun.top but that means a 3 week wait. I need something to occupy my OCD while I research my new mod and wait for it to arrive.

 

[Nite]

So sad how my 75W eVic became obsolete, literally, over night
I'm looking at the 150W joytec, I don't have any budget so to speak but if I can save a few $ why not
Any suggestions on whuch mod to get?

There have been one or two suggestions for the RX200 already, if you do consider to go this way one of the local vendors @Ricgt has it on sale for R750 without batteries currently, I have no advice on the technical aspects however I thought I would just give you the heads up on the sale at least
http://www.thepuffstation.co.za/collections/the-stash/products/reuleaux-rx200

 

[GlacieredPyro]

So sad how my 75W eVic became obsolete, literally, over night
I'm looking at the 150W joytec, I don't have any budget so to speak but if I can save a few $ why not
Any suggestions on whuch mod to get?

I still have my vtc and the RCA works so well on it at 35-50W depending on build.
For the stock coils or dual rba you want the power. So keep that in mind and ensure that is what you want.

As for mods. The 150W joytech looks like such an amazing mod. The V6 vtc as I like to think about it.
That or the RX. Depends on how much you want to spend.

Edit: To find the dual RBA I would make a post on the Who has stock sub forum.
Easiest fast answers from vendors to be honest.

 

[Greyz]

There have been one or two suggestions for the RX200 already, if you do consider to go this way one of the local vendors @Ricgt has it on sale for R750 without batteries currently, I have no advice on the technical aspects however I thought I would just give you the heads up on the sale at least
http://www.thepuffstation.co.za/collections/the-stash/products/reuleaux-rx200

Thanks a mil! That is a really good price for the RX200. I want one
EDIT: Black is sold out :'(

 

[Nimatek]

I have the rx200 and a vtc mini, going to replace it with the cuboid for the extra battery and smaller size than the rx200.

The rba deck is my favourite so far since the extra screws make it so easy to build on. I would suggest getting that if you don't have one and ignore the dual coil deck for now.

You really don't need it, the single coil is amazing and I rarely use more than 45w on it.

Send some photos of the decks you got and we can assist to get it working well on the vtc mini now then you can save up for a 200w device. Would be the most efficient path to take without feeling like you wasted money.

Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk

 

[Greyz]

I still have my vtc and the RCA works so well on it at 35-50W depending on build.
For the stock coils or dual rba you want the power. So keep that in mind and ensure that is what you want.

As for mods. The 150W joytech looks like such an amazing mod. The V6 vtc as I like to think about it.
That or the RX. Depends on how much you want to spend.

Edit: To find the dual RBA I would make a post on the Who has stock sub forum.
Easiest fast answers from vendors to be honest.

I'm seriously considering this mod as I'm using TC on my eVic Mini, plus I'm used to the menu and how to setup new coils etc.
But now I'm considering the Reuleaux, check the one in the link above your post, R750 is cheap for that mod.

 

[GlacieredPyro]

I'm seriously considering this mod as I'm using TC on my eVic Mini, plus I'm used to the menu and how to setup new coils etc.
But now I'm considering the Reuleaux, check the one in the link above your post, R750 is cheap for that mod.

My second mod is the Reuleaux DNA200. I love the Joytech interface though. Hence the RX200, as I mentioned, is also a great choice.
The battery life alone is something to drool over.

 

[Greyz]

I have the rx200 and a vtc mini, going to replace it with the cuboid for the extra battery and smaller size than the rx200.

The rba deck is my favourite so far since the extra screws make it so easy to build on. I would suggest getting that if you don't have one and ignore the dual coil deck for now.

You really don't need it, the single coil is amazing and I rarely use more than 45w on it.

Send some photos of the decks you got and we can assist to get it working well on the vtc mini now then you can save up for a 200w device. Would be the most efficient path to take without feeling like you wasted money.

Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk

I did get the single RBA in the kit and that's what I'm vaping on now. Chucking clouds and I'm only using 30W, tried 40W but the vape gets too warm too fast for me. The kit came with a Trip, Quad and an RBA.
I will post some more pics tonight after I re-wick the single RBA - please don't feel shy to comment if I'm doing it wrong.

The RX200 looks the part hey, @Nite linked me to an RX200 for R750. I was going to bite the bullet and order but no Black. The white and teal is okay but I work at Toyota and that white won't stay white for long.

Have you tried building a SS/Ti/Ni coil and running it in TC mode?

 

[Greyz]

My second mod is the Reuleaux DNA200. I love the Joytech interface though. Hence the RX200, as I mentioned, is also a great choice.
The battery life alone is something to drool over.

The JoyTech interface is so simple yet has all the info you need. If you don't like it, change your firmware and change the layout - LOVE it!
My mouths salivating just thinking about the flavour hit I'll get with the right mod. If the flavour is so intense with the single RBA coil then I can only imagine that the Quad coil will taste like heaven

TFV4 (Taste Furious V4)

 

[Cave Johnson]

Yo @Greyz
I love this tank. I have both the full size and mini. Wicking and coiling is pretty much the same on both of them. Some improvements on the mini but overall quite similar.
Have a look at my review thread for some tips on wicking and coiling. The dual RBA base is a must have for this tank.
http://www.ecigssa.co.za/smok-tfv4-first-impressions.t13902/

EDIT: @Frostbite can hook you up at http://www.atomixvapes.co.za/collections/coils/products/tfv4-tfr2

 

[Nimatek]

I did get the single RBA in the kit and that's what I'm vaping on now. Chucking clouds and I'm only using 30W, tried 40W but the vape gets too warm too fast for me. The kit came with a Trip, Quad and an RBA.
I will post some more pics tonight after I re-wick the single RBA - please don't feel shy to comment if I'm doing it wrong.

The RX200 looks the part hey, @Nite linked me to an RX200 for R750. I was going to bite the bullet and order but no Black. The white and teal is okay but I work at Toyota and that white won't stay white for long.

Have you tried building a SS/Ti/Ni coil and running it in TC mode?

I run either a single clapton build or I change it to SS 316L when I want Temp Control. Works exactly the same, just need to play with temp and power settings on the SS to get the taste just right

 

[Greyz]

I wanna thank everyone that replied in this thread, special mention to @Cave Johnson for the great review and wicking tips etc. As well as @Nite for the link to the RX200. I must say I'm extremely glad I chose the RX200, it's a superb device. Vaping the single coil RBA @30W produces some impressive clouds. Weird how my eVic VTC mini @30W with the same RBA and juice doesn't produce the same clouds...
The only place my Evic mini trumps the RX200 is in the display, but the RX200 display is brighter making it easier to read outdoors.

As promised below are some pics of 2 attempts at wicking the RBA (still the original coil it shipped with), have a look and let me know where I can improve please.

(The goods)
(Here I cut the wicks just long enough that the tails are in the juice channels)

(Here she is all wet )

It took a few attempts at getting the right amount of cotton but this single coil build worked amazingly well. Good amount of vapour and no leaks. Layed her down on her side for 10min and dry a bone. Seeing as the first wicking went so well I thought I maybe could do better using a different method. Needlessly I wasted my time and cotton.

(Here I used the same amount of cotton as before but followed another method where you run some cotton down the channels and spread the rest from post to post. After putting the cap on the RBA I used a tiny screw driver to spread it out more evenly)
My TFV4 did not like this wicking method, and it would leak if I was holding it at an angle. Damn wasted the last 5ml of Pomgurt I had in my juice stash

Today I'm trialing the Quad coil and so far I'm not that impressed TBH. Tried at 80W, lovely flavour but not a lot of vapour. 100W, a bit more vapour and the flavour is spot on (Hazewicks Scream), small improvement on cloud production. 120W, too hot too quick for my liking. The coils ramp up too quickly at this temp and I'm barely able to inhale for longer than a second or so.
The quads have been a bit of a let down in the cloud department, the RBA single coil produced bigger cloud volume. But I haven't written them off just yet as it could be the juice I'm using. Maybe it's the Hazewicks juice as I haven't tried it yet in the RBA so I'll reserve final judgement till I try it.

I'm really looking forward to being an active part of this online vaping community. Thanks guys for you replies

 

[Silver]

Congrats @Greyz
And thanks for giving the feedback
Enjoy the new setup

PS - when you get a chance, please upload a cool avatar pic for yourself!

 

[Greyz]

Congrats @Greyz
And thanks for giving the feedback
Enjoy the new setup

PS - when you get a chance, please upload a cool avatar pic for yourself!

Thanks Silver. I was actually busy with sorting out a sig and avatar as we speak.
Just the cool avatar part got me stuck

Damn sig banner also doesn't want to play nice...
EDIT: Got it working now.

 

[Greyz]

Her's a pic of my new setup - didn't have much choice as Ricardo only had the Pearl White and Teal in stock. I'll be visiting Sir Vape for a black sleeve during the week. This is one heavy beast of a mod LOL

 

[Silver]

Thanks Silver. I was actually busy with sorting out a sig and avatar as we speak.
Just the cool avatar part got me stuck

Damn sig banner also doesn't want to play nice...
EDIT: Got it working now.

Signature looks great and avatar is really cool!
Thanks

PS - headsup - you can load images directly into your posts and have them display inline.
Just click on the little blue button below the editing box "Upload a File" - then once it is uploaded click on "Full Image". Wherever your cursor is, it will put in the image.

Try use images of reasonable size - for example 640 by 480

Like this:



EDIT - PS - when I clicked on your google drive pic in the last post you made above, it said the image was not shared, so it didn't want to give access.

 

[Greyz]

Signature looks great and avatar is really cool!
Thanks

PS - headsup - you can load images directly into your posts and have them display inline.
Just click on the little blue button below the editing box "Upload a File" - then once it is uploaded click on "Full Image". Wherever your cursor is, it will put in the image.

Try use images of reasonable size - for example 640 by 480

Like this:

View attachment 43343

EDIT - PS - when I clicked on your google drive pic in the last post you made above, it said the image was not shared, so it didn't want to give access.

Thanks for the tip, I will use that in future. Linking to my google drive is a bit of pain for those wanting to see the pics.