SXK BILLET BOX - Reviews & Discussions

Yes really! By a whole 4 years.
Think you need a billet box first lol!

First of many Q's:
I built the insider with a 3mm 26g ss 316 7wrap 0.6ish ohms. Lined it up with the taller post and haven't had any dry hit or leaking issues, the only trouble is the flavour isn't as good as I expected. I am running the same juice in my trusty serpent 25 in dual coil and the flavour is just soooooo much better? What am I doing wrong?
The other Q is regarding the insider vs exocet (I'm sure it has been discussed somewhere), which is the airier and more flavourful? (I only have the smaller of the two chimneys for the insider for a point of reference).

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Seems there is no direct answer to this question. How would either of these compare to the STM RBA that comes supplied with the BB? Got both the Exocet and Insider in my shopping cart at the moment and need to make a decision. I am having trouble deciding which one...

Thanks
 
Seems there is no direct answer to this question. How would either of these compare to the STM RBA that comes supplied with the BB? Got both the Exocet and Insider in my shopping cart at the moment and need to make a decision. I am having trouble deciding which one...

Thanks

So I am going to add my 2 cents here for you bud even though I am most definitely NOT a BB expert all considering if have only had mine like 2 days now.

I had some good advice from @TheV last night about wicking the Insider as that is the only RBA I have for mine at the moment. I subsequently wicked it according to that and must say the flavour has jumped up quite a few levels to the stage where it is acceptable without any dry hits. I think though that my problem though is my wire choice which at this stage is normal Ni80 round wire. I am getting some Fused Clapton Ni80 tomorrow which I read in an earlier post by @GerritVisagie, does help to improve the flavour but I can only confirm this tomorrow for you.

In terms of general feedback I have read in the posts, the Exocet is a more forgiving RBA in terms of getting right with the wicking etc whereas the Insider does take a bit more finesse and patience to get right. According to some, the flavour is pretty much the same on both but as vaping goes, this is subjective as our styles and expected outcome of vaping differ from person to person.

I think if you are in the position to take both the Excocet as well as the Insider, It might not be a bad thing as you can compare them side by side and see which one you prefer.

I will report back tomorrow morning on what the results are with me using a different wire in my build but bear in mind, I can’t give you a comparison as I only have the insider.

And after all of that.... no real answer to your question


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So I am going to add my 2 cents here for you bud even though I am most definitely NOT a BB expert all considering if have only had mine like 2 days now.

I had some good advice from @TheV last night about wicking the Insider as that is the only RBA I have for mine at the moment. I subsequently wicked it according to that and must say the flavour has jumped up quite a few levels to the stage where it is acceptable without any dry hits. I think though that my problem though is my wire choice which at this stage is normal Ni80 round wire. I am getting some Fused Clapton Ni80 tomorrow which I read in an earlier post by @GerritVisagie, does help to improve the flavour but I can only confirm this tomorrow for you.

In terms of general feedback I have read in the posts, the Exocet is a more forgiving RBA in terms of getting right with the wicking etc whereas the Insider does take a bit more finesse and patience to get right. According to some, the flavour is pretty much the same on both but as vaping goes, this is subjective as our styles and expected outcome of vaping differ from person to person.

I think if you are in the position to take both the Excocet as well as the Insider, It might not be a bad thing as you can compare them side by side and see which one you prefer.

I will report back tomorrow morning on what the results are with me using a different wire in my build but bear in mind, I can’t give you a comparison as I only have the insider.

And after all of that.... no real answer to your question


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@shaun2707, I'm really glad to hear that you are seeing better results :D That is awesome!
I'll copy/paste that part of our conversation ... maybe it can be of use to someone else here as well:
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So I build using 6 wraps 2.5mm 30x3+38 Ni80 @ ~0.62Ω
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I position the coil so that rod is perfectly over the wicking ports.

I use streaky cotton and wick it as tight as I can get it without mangling the coil.
I initially cut the wick about 1cm off the deck and start fluffing it with my fingers <- I take my index finger and just flick it back and forth over the cotton from the side. I don't comb it or stroke it or press it. Just flick it. This will puff up the cotton in a natural bow tie.
Once it is proper fluffed up I cut the top of the bow tie flat, level with the top of the coil (either side).
Then I cut from the top down, against the base of the Insider. This will leave somewhat of a triangle type shape. The top part being a bit fat and fluffy, the little tip going down (pretty much over the wicking channels) being naturally thinned out.
Because you placed the coil over the wicking channels, those tips being over the wicking channels are perfect where they are.
I just put the cap over the whole show as is, give it a half twist in reverse and start winding it down.
I chuck some juice through the top on the coil and tail ends that stick out just to pre-saturate it... its still on a mod or tab, so I fire and drip on the coil, making sure its pulled juice in properly.
And that is pretty much it... make sure all the orings are lubed, chuck it in the tank, larger chimney goes on, fill the tank and let it stand for a minute or so.

That gives me a consistent vape that doesn't drop off in flavor or vapor until it is pretty much empty.
It bubbles after every pull.
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Update on the tricky boro glass issue:
I opened and closed the tank repeatedly last night, probably about 10 times, it's much easier to open today. Now I'm a happy BB vaper :)
 
@shaun2707, I'm really glad to hear that you are seeing better results :D That is awesome!
I'll copy/paste that part of our conversation ... maybe it can be of use to someone else here as well:
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So I build using 6 wraps 2.5mm 30x3+38 Ni80 @ ~0.62Ω
KTttgfJ.jpg

I position the coil so that rod is perfectly over the wicking ports.

I use streaky cotton and wick it as tight as I can get it without mangling the coil.
I initially cut the wick about 1cm off the deck and start fluffing it with my fingers <- I take my index finger and just flick it back and forth over the cotton from the side. I don't comb it or stroke it or press it. Just flick it. This will puff up the cotton in a natural bow tie.
Once it is proper fluffed up I cut the top of the bow tie flat, level with the top of the coil (either side).
Then I cut from the top down, against the base of the Insider. This will leave somewhat of a triangle type shape. The top part being a bit fat and fluffy, the little tip going down (pretty much over the wicking channels) being naturally thinned out.
Because you placed the coil over the wicking channels, those tips being over the wicking channels are perfect where they are.
I just put the cap over the whole show as is, give it a half twist in reverse and start winding it down.
I chuck some juice through the top on the coil and tail ends that stick out just to pre-saturate it... its still on a mod or tab, so I fire and drip on the coil, making sure its pulled juice in properly.
And that is pretty much it... make sure all the orings are lubed, chuck it in the tank, larger chimney goes on, fill the tank and let it stand for a minute or so.

That gives me a consistent vape that doesn't drop off in flavor or vapor until it is pretty much empty.
It bubbles after every pull.
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@TheV all I can say is thank you!!!
Flavour is much better, wicking is on point and I didn't even change the build. Next step is to put a flapton/clapton build in her and I should be sorted.

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@TheV all I can say is thank you!!!
Flavour is much better, wicking is on point and I didn't even change the build. Next step is to put a flapton/clapton build in her and I should be sorted.

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Awesome @@cliff! Really glad this helped :D
I believe @shaun2707 is now also happy with his Insider after following the above and recoiling with fused clapton wire :)
 
Awesome @@cliff! Really glad this helped :D
I believe @shaun2707 is now also happy with his Insider after following the above and recoiling with fused clapton wire :)

Yeah man.... definitely found the flavour and vape on mine got better with a nice Fused Clapton build rather than the round wire. Obviously wicked right and it’s banging!! Enjoying it plenty

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Great to see @shaun2707
How would you describe the difference in the vape on it between the round wire and the fused clapton?
 
Yeah man.... definitely found the flavour and vape on mine got better with a nice Fused Clapton build rather than the round wire. Obviously wicked right and it’s banging!! Enjoying it plenty

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Awesome pic dude! And many happy vapes on the new build :)
 
Great to see @shaun2707
How would you describe the difference in the vape on it between the round wire and the fused clapton?

Thanks @Silver. I was saying to @TheV the other day that I found with round wire I was getting more of a menthol only tase when vaping XXX and seemed to be still lacking in a “full” vape.

As soon as I put the Fused Clapton wire build, I then got the litchi notes as well as menthol in the vape and just and all round more fuller vape.

I must say though, I do find the Insider to be a dryer vape that what I am used to when using an RDA for example. Would be interested to see or hear from the others if this is the case with the Exco or even the Flo for that matter.


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Thanks @Silver. I was saying to @TheV the other day that I found with round wire I was getting more of a menthol only tase when vaping XXX and seemed to be still lacking in a “full” vape.

As soon as I put the Fused Clapton wire build, I then got the litchi notes as well as menthol in the vape and just and all round more fuller vape.

I must say though, I do find the Insider to be a dryer vape that what I am used to when using an RDA for example. Would be interested to see or hear from the others if this is the case with the Exco or even the Flo for that matter.


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That's interesting @shaun2707 - thanks
I can understand the fuller vape part of it given the surface area increase
But the different flavour notes is something I am curious to experiment more with
Maybe slightly different temperatures on parts of the clapton coil leading to bringing out the different flavours. I know these flavours tend to be temperature dependent to a degree.

Reason I am asking is that I am still vaping on my original fused Clapton coil from RiaanRed in my BB. And I want to try a normal round wire
Will get to it at some point - but am enjoying the fused clapton thoroughly.
 
So, another update, the glass slides sooo smoothly now. The draw is absolutely perfect, the flavour is great (on XXX, have yet to try other flavours), battery life is excellent and it's so easy to maintain. I rate this as a well rounded device, might just buy another. I still need to test the insider as well as some of my more complex flavours.

So all of you other BB users, how do you find more complex flavours in the BB? Also, please mention Insider or Exocet.
 
So, another update, the glass slides sooo smoothly now. The draw is absolutely perfect, the flavour is great (on XXX, have yet to try other flavours), battery life is excellent and it's so easy to maintain. I rate this as a well rounded device, might just buy another. I still need to test the insider as well as some of my more complex flavours.

So all of you other BB users, how do you find more complex flavours in the BB? Also, please mention Insider or Exocet.

@JB1987 - although the BB makes XXX shine, other juices also perform in there. I actually vaped a few different juices in my BBs today - mostly some of my DIY experiments - some fruity and some smooth sweet juices. The BB performed percent with all. I do find that I up the wattage for some juices from my normal 25W to 31-32W to get the better flavor however. I use the Exocet in one and the Insider in another.

I use normal rounded Ni80 normally between 0.45 and 6 ohm always a 2.5mm ID and have not had any issue with flavour.


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I just opened the BB to check the battery and my screen isn't working. Mod still fires though. Any ideas?
 
I just opened the BB to check the battery and my screen isn't working. Mod still fires though. Any ideas?
If you lock and unlock the mod do you get anything on the screen?
Maybe you got it into Stealth mode?
 
I don't get anything on the screen. How do you get it out of stealth mode?
 
The screen mode is a selection in the menu(enter by press holding the up:facing boro: and fire button) then using the arrow keys go to the screen mode and press fire = screen then should be off.

If you are in screen off mode. Just by entering the menu will swith this function off. When in menu. Pressing the fire button 3 times exits the menu.
 
Hope I am posting in the correct thread.

Just received and set up my SXK Insider in the SXK BB. I have been using the supplied STM type RBA until now.

9 winds 26AWG SS316L ID 2.5mm for 0.6 Ohms. Running on TC at 25W.
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I wicked as one of the honorable forum members suggested, basically laying the wick ends on top of the juice ports.
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Assembled it without the afc as I like a fairly open draw.
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There is more air than with the standard RBA and to my relief no leaking and excellent juice flow. Flavor is crisp and satisfying.

Just polished my last bit of XXX which I was saving for the insiders arrival and it was worth it.

@Dexter305, It is an improvement on the standard RBA but not knowing the Excocet I can not comment on a comparison. I had both in the basket but chose the Insider as it seems to provide more airflow. I may be wrong on this though.

Regards
 
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