SXK Supbox Sevo 70W Box Kit

What grinds my gears is when they try and sell it as an original. That is just being fake, but being sold as a cheaper alternative, as a cloned product, not too phased personally. People still by the Originals, it is brands with a cult following, producing exceptional quality products in limited numbers. They will always have their market. Other people are ok with having a product that might not use titanium or a cheaper stainless. They just want to experience it. With today's technology, there should be no difference in performance on most 1:1 clones. But I'm not going to delve into this too much. It's like a tradition, at least once a year the Clone Debate comes up on the forum, a big typing match ensues, people are mad at each other for weeks, and then we all move on and continue vaping as normal, those with clones and those without. If you are content to own a clone, get one, vape on and be happy.
So is our yearly debate over now???
 
what blows my mind is how quick a clone is made and ready for sale

I'm talking specifically RTA's & RDA's
 
Mostly because the Chinese see industrial espionage the same way footballers see diving in the box. If it wins you the game, all is good. After all the Japanese did it for decades as did the Russians. Reverse engineering is a now a career.

I am in the camp of if it is not copyrighted or patented, then it is fair game and if I buy rubbish, that's my bad and my wasted money. Perhaps a little selfish of me but I want the choice if I can't afford the original. I understand intellectual capital but it gets out of hand when guys like Harley Davidson want to patent the exhaust noise.

I do however agree that they should never ever be sold or marketed as an original, that is fraud.
 
Agree, Auth BB's are sold out faster than what they are being produced :rolleyes: "But clones are hurting them" o_O
That's why i see both sides of the
Agree, Auth BB's are sold out faster than what they are being produced :rolleyes: "But clones are hurting them" o_O
Yep and this is done on purpose as with all high end products to keep demand higher than supply so they can ask a premium price only it's not genuine supply and demand where they can't keep up with production but rigged to make it that way so i have no sympathy with high end manufacturers because they don't care about mainstream vapers but on purpose keep their products out of the reach of those that don't have never ending wallets! Laugh is i see so many who look down on clone owners yet will quite happily mix a cloned e-liquid, i got told i shouldn't spout the word hypocrisy about so looked through my Oxford English Dictionary, but no i am using the correct word!
 
Mostly because the Chinese see industrial espionage the same way footballers see diving in the box. If it wins you the game, all is good. After all the Japanese did it for decades as did the Russians. Reverse engineering is a now a career.

I am in the camp of if it is not copyrighted or patented, then it is fair game and if I buy rubbish, that's my bad and my wasted money. Perhaps a little selfish of me but I want the choice if I can't afford the original. I understand intellectual capital but it gets out of hand when guys like Harley Davidson want to patent the exhaust noise.

I do however agree that they should never ever be sold or marketed as an original, that is fraud.
Yes agree 100% and any clone owner i have come across has the same opinion and many have both high end originals and clones like me.
 
I still maintain that the clone market is actually benefiting the high end producers. No person who can afford authentic high end gear will ever buy a clone, but how many times have we seen people save up and invest in an authentic after using (and liking) a clone?
 
I still maintain that the clone market is actually benefiting the high end producers. No person who can afford authentic high end gear will ever buy a clone, but how many times have we seen people save up and invest in an authentic after using (and liking) a clone?
I agree but that's implying that this is a clone which is many peoples view while they Lord the Abyss. This is the first time a Boro Tank can be used on a standard type device! The Abyss allows for a Bridge to fit into a tank which was done ages ago with the Tell! So this is the innovative device not the Abyss! It's sad that this review thread has turned into a thread about clones while the Abyss thread about "Innovation" and "game changing" which is BS and narrow mindedness!
 
I agree but that's implying that this is a clone which is many peoples view while they Lord the Abyss. This is the first time a Boro Tank can be used on a standard type device! The Abyss allows for a Bridge to fit into a tank which was done ages ago with the Tell! So this is the innovative device not the Abyss! It's sad that this review thread has turned into a thread about clones while the Abyss thread about "Innovation" and "game changing" which is BS and narrow mindedness!
Just to clarify, after the first sentence i was generalising, not personally aimed at you mate!
 
For those who're interested (and there have been a couple since this device came out) @YeOldeOke has the 70W kit on preorder right now at a VERY good price.

Needless to say, my order is in :)
 
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