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and of 10000 units sold, say they get feed back on 3000. Thats still vastly more than what a western based company that makes authentics would possibly get. That means every element of the chinese companies product will get really thoroughly tested.
 
where i think we'll run into a downer, with Chinese companies becoming more prominent, with things like the wattage arms race.

the SMY 260W is plainly unnecessary, I'm getting one purely because it'll be the one ultra high powered device i own, and i'll use it for making super large clouds. but for most vapers, its plain dangerous. That said, i bet you in 6 months or less we'll see 300W.

Also one wonders, what their focus on safety is like compared to a western company like Evolv
 
That's true, and unfortunately the way our modern world works...always moving forward even if we're approaching a cliff :eek:
 
Because after all, it only takes one vaper setting him/herself on fire in public to make us all look, like we're playing with things we don't understand.
 
That is a sad fact. Someone is going to overdo it publicly in a big way and that will forever be our Chernobyl :(
 
even the big chinese companies like Aspire. Are pretty irresponsible in this regard.

The Atlantis uses 0.5 ohm coils. For a fact, if you stick it on a cheap EVOD knock-off battery, it will make the battery overheat, and bad s*** will ensue.

Despite this, there are no warnings of any kind on the packaging of the atlantis, or its coils
 
I think they only way they'll learn this lesson, is by the nose dive sales will take when someone blows off limbs or sets them selves on fire again. Though sadly, i think it'll take quite a number of cases of this for them to get the message. Vaping is a niche activity, and they need to do everything they can, to insulate newcomers from doing dangerous stuff, before they've acquired the relevant knowledge.
 
That is so true. I do think the manufacturers need to endorse some batteries for use in their products. Like most companies do. It could even earn them some kickback from the battery manufacturer.

Unfortunately, as you say, it's going to take a minor nuclear explosion before they start doing that.

Installing the alarm after the house has been robbed :(
 
I'm all for regulation on these devices...I just wish they would be level headed when doing so.

Currently they just want to kill off all the smaller companies for the sake of control.
 
the problem, could actually even be solved as easily as this.

Option 1 (Vape shops up here, will not do this)
Educate the guys behind the counters in vape shops to ask their customers a few questions before selling them something like an atlantis, so that they can assess, their skill level, and make sure that the client is making a safe purchase.

Option 2
Include the infographics that are available for free on the Zamplebox website, in the box for the Aspire Atlantis
 
Someone who works at a vape shop here, told me, that the eLeaf iStick is the most powerful mod ever made. Worse, that the Aspire Atlantis" that he's getting next month, will work just fine on the iStick as well as his selection of kangertech EVOD/eGo batteries.
 
When I tried to set him straight, his first reaction was to dismiss what I had said, be cause he assumed he knew more than me. His second reaction was to get offended.
 
That's just sad.

This is why I think it's up to the manufacturers to add a big "Warning: This sh1t can blow up in your face" label like on cigarettes :nod:

But they won't because they might miss a sale :(
 
That's the other problem with China...they play by their own rules. Only a sales ban would really affect them.
 
There also needs to be some stricter criteria from the manufacturers on who they allow to sell their products. I can't speak for vendors down there, as i hear only good things. but up here, you can easily end up with a situation where the guy behind the counter really isn't interested in what he's selling you, and really just wants your money and you to be gone ASAP.

would such a situation be allowed in a gun shop? or a pharmacy? or a bar?
 
Absolutely...I do hope that some decent form of regulation happens before somebody melts their face off.

I just hope they don't go overboard and end up suppressing the innovation this industry has been showing.
 
Thats the saddest part. if the big players in the industry self regulated. Then the risk of having uncomfortable laws formed would be non-existent. But unfortunately, I don't think any of them have learnt the golden rule of chess. "Always think 3 steps ahead"
 
Spot on...I just wish they had some common sense.

Self regulation works really well for juices so far - even the tiniest hint that there is something suspect in some juice and the internet goes apesh1t - for better or worse :D
 
It might even be best if some group of vapers formed a regulating body...not lawful, but they could have a certfication process and branding (which the Chinese would probably just copy, but it could be verified online).

I think in the end this would be the best way to go - self regulation by a 3rd party.
 
Good idea for a chatroom thread @free3dom
Thanks for creating
 
Lol, the chat stopped just after midnight....
 
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